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Stop & FRISK "success" . . . for now . . . . in Chicago

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Less guns in the wrong hands decreases gun violence. More guns in the right hands also decreases gun violence. Taking away everyone's rights and forcing them to live under government occupation would also decrease gun violence. All been covered a thousand times, someone just needs attention. Stop giving it to him.

and yet here you are CHOOSING to come into this thread . . .Stop & Frisk = "Taking away everyone's rights and forcing them to live under government occupation"I guess you've given up on less guns does NOT equal less gun violence.  Buggsy would say "surrender noted" . . . but then again he fills the niche  :-[

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Less guns in the wrong hands decreases gun violence.

Anyone telling you that "MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE" is just flat out wrong, and likely an inbred, bucktoothed halfwit with penis breath and a mullet.

lmao  -- -  frame it

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The insane thing is that the article says nothing really about taking away guns or gun control at all. It is about controlling and monitoring bad people. At the heart of it is is about doing three things1. Identifying who your potential or actual killers are. There are a lot of criminals but not many who have or might pull the trigger.  This is sort of the opposite of the broken window theory that says controlling the small crimes reduces the big crimes. This approach focuses on the big criminals and not on all the criminals. 2. Understanding their network of allies and rivals. Who might have killed them and who might get killed in retaliation.3. The stop and frisk is more stop and question because the stream of info to feed the first two points is pretty massive and the need for updates is constant.

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The insane thing is that the article says nothing really about taking away guns or gun control at all. .

"Less than two weeks later, those steps led to the arrest of one of the Rockwell Boys for the shooting. It wasn’t a kid from the original four, but an associate police found through the same network. At the same time, in the days the case was open, McNaughton’s cops were all over the predicted scenes. They made a dozen more arrests than in the same period the year before, catching one of the Rockwell Boys with a gun a block from where they expected the next spree — a shootout that McNaughton says never did happen."That is a Stop & Frisk and the reason that they are having success in Chicago is not just that they are using data to predict a future crime and then flooding the potential scene -- although that is a part, the presence helps -- it is that they are using Stop & Frisk.  Look again where the new police chief came from. It's discussed in the article:“Chicago is the new New York when it comes to stop-and-frisk,” said Harvey Grossman, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union in Illinois.There's plenty more info available. From a simple Google search:How stop and frisk works in Chicago | Bleader | Chicago Readerwww.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/.../how-stop-and-frisk-works-in-chicag...?Aug 26, 2013 - Police practices in Chicago may be less flawed than New York's, but they cause the same tensions between public safety and personal liberty.Poor data keep Chicago's stop and frisk hidden from scrutiny | WBEZ ...www.wbez.org/.../poor-data-keeps-chicagos-stop-and-frisk-hidden-scruti...?Sep 12, 2013 - In Chicago, stop and frisk is alive and well – but relatively unchecked. Encounters with Chicago police officers often begin with a little-known ...Chicago, New York officers spar over stop-and-frisk policy - CNN.comwww.cnn.com/2013/08/14/us/new-york-chicago-stop-frisk?Aug 14, 2013 - Police departments in Chicago and New York are trading barbs after a federal judge ruled that New York City's stop-and-frisk policy was ...Stop and frisk in Chicago - Interesting Chicago - ChicagoNowwww.chicagonow.com/interesting-chicago/.../stop-and-frisk-in-chicago/?..

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The quote in its entirety: "I conveniently ignored it because you are an idiot, and a dishonest one at that. Gun violence has declined sharply over the last two decades. Violence overall has declined over the last two decades. As a percentage of the whole, gun violence has remained the same, but let's be absolutely clear here: gun violence has declined dramatically. There is no getting around that. During that same period, gun ownership increased a lot. The percentage of households with guns did not rise, nor would one expect it to in an increasingly urban population. The number of guns went up though. It went up a lot.So, to review: amount of gun violence = way down, amount of guns = way up. Anyone telling you that "MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE" is just flat out wrong, and likely an inbred, bucktoothed halfwit with penis breath and a mullet."

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