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I think the article shows that removing firearms from the bad guys dramatically reduces gun violence and murder, not simply removing firearms.

So, by "gun logic"  . . . .there are two different worlds? removing guns from "bad guys" "dramatically reduces gun violence" BUT removing guns from "good guys" doesn't do anything to reduce gun violence? . . .because "good guys" never use gun for violence, never have family members injured by their guns for violence etc.?Btw, where do the Gangs of Chicago get those guns?  Are you suggesting that those guns in those gang members hands came from, say, the Russian mob? Or did they start into the stream of commerce as LEGAL guns? Notice you didn't address that

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One day in a Chicago schoolyard...

two days in the life of Illuminator:

Less guns in the wrong hands decreases gun violence. .

. Anyone telling you that "MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE" is just flat out wrong, and likely an inbred, bucktoothed halfwit with penis breath and a mullet."

Illuminator, the self-styled intellectual does not like that he outed himself as a dishonest "inbred, bucktoothed halfwit with penis breath and a mullet."  The 300 lb gorilla, who runs around the Red Board to show everyone how smart he is, . . .  is really a teeny weeny squeaky little mouse.

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Bill Burr on gun ownership: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f1e_1346056198

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So, by "gun logic"  . . . .there are two different worlds? removing guns from "bad guys" "dramatically reduces gun violence" BUT removing guns from "good guys" doesn't do anything to reduce gun violence? . . .because "good guys" never use gun for violence, never have family members injured by their guns for violence etc.?Btw, where do the Gangs of Chicago get those guns?  Are you suggesting that those guns in those gang members hands came from, say, the Russian mob? Or did they start into the stream of commerce as LEGAL guns? Notice you didn't address that

Yea, my "gun logic" tells me that taking guns away from the bad guys is a lot more effective than taking guns away from the good guys.

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So, by "gun logic"  . . . .there are two different worlds? removing guns from "bad guys" "dramatically reduces gun violence" BUT removing guns from "good guys" doesn't do anything to reduce gun violence? . . .because "good guys" never use gun for violence, never have family members injured by their guns for violence etc.?Btw, where do the Gangs of Chicago get those guns?  Are you suggesting that those guns in those gang members hands came from, say, the Russian mob? Or did they start into the stream of commerce as LEGAL guns? Notice you didn't address that

Yea, my "gun logic" tells me that taking guns away from the bad guys is a lot more effective than taking guns away from the good guys.

"a lot more effective" - so it is NOT that removing the guns from the "good guys" does nothing to reduce gun violence, it just has a lesser impact then removing gun from the "bad guys". . . . that's fair enough . . . less guns = less gun violence . . . . lots of agreement here today!  Progressshould I try a 3rd time and ask where those bad guys got those guns? Nah, we all know . . . .they started their gun life as "legal" guns in the hands of "good guys"

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