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Lots to unpack from here until April/May. 

There’s the most obvious/talked about with Wirfs, Winfield, Evans, LVD, and Baker. 

Not nearly as much cap as many have been alluding to (once you’ve considered the aforementioned players). 

What would be the biggest needs, assuming all of these guys are back?

Center and LG would be mine. Talks of moving Mauch to C, but that would open another hole at RG. 

Have to address DE/EDGE. 

Need another safety and possibly CB2 if Davis is gone. 

Personally, I’d love to see a dynamic playmaker to replace Otton. 

What would be your priorities and who do you have in mind?

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 9:55 am
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#LG (round 2)

#OLB(round 1)

#C(round 2-3)

#SS

Gotta fix the run game up and get some EDGE rush.

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 10:26 am
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Posted by: @detrimental

#LG (round 2)

#OLB(round 1)

#C(round 2-3)

#SS

Gotta fix the run game up and get some EDGE rush.

Agreed. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 10:27 am
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I would like to see them address the edge rusher first and foremost. Center would be my 2nd priority. We definitely are going to need to address the LB position, what with David's future uncertain and the piss poor play of White. I don't know if we can upgrade there through the draft or free agency, maybe a combo of both. CB and TE would be my next priorities, not necessarily in that order.

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 10:30 am
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Lots to unpack from here until April/May. Definitely, but more good than Bad.  Just need coaches to have a bit more Ballz and just a tad bit of luck.

There’s the most obvious/talked about with Wirfs, Winfield, Evans, LVD, and Baker.  My Order is Baller/ Wirfs/ AW3!/ LVD&ME!!!3 last, sorry, they are just a bit older and have less years left in them.  Id rather water young plants that are growing and will produce much fruit tomorrow and the day after rather that water the ones whose best days were just yesterday and will be less tomorrow- No one beats Father TIME- sorry just my 2c facts.  Just my personal opinion on order.  Id love them ALL BACK, but paper is paper, and ppl LOVE PAPERchamps...we got called that Once during the Sapp years IIRC

Not nearly as much cap as many have been alluding to (once you’ve considered the aforementioned players).   No Idea, I guess in JL and Greenberg (or whatever) AND GLAZER BOYS!!!!! wanna do.

What would be the biggest needs, assuming all of these guys are back? Number 1 need...hmmm, tough, because were not terribly too far off.  The Middle of the field on Defense- Lets just say pass Defense in general, from the short to the middle of the field is and HAS BEEN our biggest weakness for some time.  We need to just let the Zone become less and less and man become more and more based on the skillset of our players.  Thats Coaching 101, which was not done properly Yesterday. Rage...

Center and LG would be mine. Talks of moving Mauch to C, but that would open another hole at RG. Now that is a great "out of the box" thought.  I think it could be brilliant. I think Centers need a certain demeanor...they need to be Nasty, Cant get much more NASTY than Mauch, hes like a Hockey player that was gifted a Football players Body...I mean the dud has no teeth, I wouldnt wanna fight him, and I can bring it!!!!  But Ill pass on THAT ONE.  Put him in the Center and Draft the most highly rated RG at 26.  Next, I dunno, CB, Safety, A LB that can Cover and rush...something like that in the second...It will have to be a developmental player, someone with insane athletic potential (ALA WHITE, but NOT WHITE, we need to make the RIGHT choice- JL looking at you). On pick three, back to the D, or a dual threat TE, Otton can catch (sometimes) but he cant Block- Call ROB G and see if He interested in Cathing Ballz from Baller, he might BE interested in being a tE again with a new friend.

Have to address DE/EDGE. Yaya Diaby needs to get Healthy, Sack B is like LVD and ME!!3, how much more does hE have in the TankY.  Dunno, dont ask me.

Need another safety and possibly CB2 if Davis is gone. I mean JL needs to have his best offseason yet, but he's been getting hotter and hotter, especially in the past 3-4 years I would put him at the top or near the top of the GM ranking based on what he has done since Bringing in BA, TB 12, AND THEN HANDLING THE TRANSITION AND MONEY PART...masterful.  JL needs to find a way to turn that from weakness to a strength, I honestly have no Idea how he will be able to manage all of this, SURPRISE ME BUDDY!!!!

Personally, I’d love to see a dynamic playmaker to replace Otton. I would call Rob G, Personally.  Dude is Still in his Prime, Have you seen what shape he is in.  Aaand, he seems smitten with Baller.  Rob G has never caught a Ball aside from TB 12 IIRC, I bet he might entertain the thought of catching Ballz from Baller.  Otherwise, we need just a more well rounded TE, someone who can Catch and, more importantly Block, I love passing to the TE, but that should be secondary, prioritize getting the passes to the WR and speed, then second scheme plays to your TE and RB when neccesary.

What would be your priorities and who do you have in mind?  Personally.  Just grow.  That is all.  From the least to the most, from the fan base to the owners booth.  From PBHC to the janitor of OBP...just as BUC NATION GROW FORWARD ONE BLADE OF GRASS AT A TIME>One PLAY AT A TIME> ONE GAME AT A TIME>ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE DYNASTY AT A TIME.  That is all.  Pretty simple really, but HARD AF TO EXECUTE.

 

I hope this gives you some things to hypothetically conjecture with me DH! Where is NOBODY???? Still, what happened, why did he leaf?

 

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Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 10:37 am
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what happens if we:

 

Keep Mayfield but lose Canales to promotion?

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 10:44 am
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The Barrett contract is so poorly structured (tired of hearing about Greenberg, these contracts are brutal) that they might as well keep him at the $14M cap hit and see they can steal another productive contract year out of him. 

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 10:52 am
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Posted by: @ramonb

Posted by: @bucsbits

what happens if we:

 

Keep Mayfield but lose Canales to promotion?

 

Likely worst case scenario.  IIRC he has never had the same OC two years in a row...that is why he was ALMOST forgotten.  After what I saw out of PBHC, I would replace him if it really came down to it, Id rather some continuity with our QB...The NFL is A QB driven game, not a COACH driven game (at least not so much anymore).  See example A, Bill B and TB12.  But Give coaches credit where credit is DUE.  Andy Reid, wins everywhere he goes, D Vermiel Wins everywhere he goes, Shula won everywhere he went, The real GOAT Bill P won everywhere he went, BA won everywhere he went, Jimmy J (one of my favs and great commentator).  PBHC isnt one of them.  Thus far Canales has Won both in Seattle with Geno and with Baller here...if I HAD to choose between Canales, rookie, green no experience-all that, and PBHC, and I had to make that decision now, I would go with the one that has won in Both PLaces...PBHC Pulled a Bill B with the Jets just Like BBPHC in Cleveland, so I count that 2-1 in favor of C.  Dont forget tho, the OC and HC dont step onto the field for a single play, yet the QB is the only player that touches the ball on every play (basically), nothing more to say.  Times are just different, and we need to adjust for get left in the dust.

 

 

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Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 11:02 am
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Heres an OUT OF THE BOX THOUGHT.  Can BA somehow some way, get off his couch to once AGAIN LEAD the WAY?  COuld he take the Reigns for just one Moah Season.  Keep COC ( 🤣 )and PBHC but demoted to PBDC and see who wins either COC OR PBDC to determine who should LEEd?  Hmm interesting thought to savor as it rolls around in the brain.  Risk-it-no-biscuit with short/middle/occasional deep ball- But always UPTEMPO.  I think that could be perfect for our Offensive identity and carry on and pave the way for COC to one day B COHC??? 

Without the rhymes and riddles.

 

JL- Nail the offseason.  No idea how your gonna have to do it.  Sacrifice, Baller said that.  Maybe You have to sacrifice something for the team, a Big decision perhaps.  Heart is Heart and Guts are Guts and Paper is just that, paper.

Convince BA to go into the night just ONCE MORE, give Bowles the opportunity to thrive as a DC.  Talking about Elephants being Elephants, maybe  Bowles is best at DC, sorry man.  The Jets, and then this one game, and the playcalling cowardice, reversion, and stubborness showed that maybe your not big enough to Bend yourself rather than the Team.  Let COC learn a bit from BA and his agressiveness, let that sink in and add it to what you learned in Seattle with Carroll and what you did with Geno (Geno with Can >>>Geno without Canales-Remember my math is pretty damn strong- I know what the important variable is in that simple equation) and what youre doing with Baller- We need to PRIO that continuity even if it means Bowles loses his spot.  And I am on record saying that Bowles did an outstanding Job at the end of the year and in our, sadly pre-assured victory, over the Stinking Iggles.  The problem is trust, when it counted Most YOU BLINKED, I dont know if that trust can be regained, but IM WILLING to let it play out.  RE-EARN OUR TRUST Bowles!!!!  Otherwise I vote for COC.

ME!!!3- the first 28 minutes, Ive seen those minutes before and the game changing drops before as I have seen the 32 minutes before and amazing jaw dropping minutes.  But you gotta work on consistently catching the Ball- that is all ME!!!!3.  I believe in you!!!!! Pls dont be too greedy, its just paper, I can even give you some of my own paper if that would help keep you!!! Under the table buddy, tax free...

GW!!!4- I typically place you above ME!!!!3, but where were you man.  We needed you, it was coaching or forcing, I dont see how it could be on YOU man.  What happened!?

AW3!- I typically put you above even GW!!!!4. See above, where were you?  I was waiting for You to ASCEND UNTIL THE FINAL PLAY.  A PICK 6 on the Final PLay coulda WON IT, OT THEN SCORE!!!!.  

Middle of the Field D- Just no words.  I understand the injuries.  I would say the Kittens had even more Injury adversity, but they won (with ref help. RAGE)

Middle of the Oline- See above.  I get it, not all those sacks were on you, It was Baker simply tryna do Baller things and play even more aggresive than I bet even COC was. But Be a WALL, Let none pass.  IDGAF how, be like freaking Gandolf or something.

White: Props Bro, first catching then running.  Im excited.  CK-Props, BIG TIME PLAYS.  Im excited.  KBritt, can you Cover ma'dude?  Uhm you have an offseason to work on that.  Im excited.  YAYA Diaby-Decide.  Are you a better backup or starter.  The choice is Yours- JTS that goes for you, perhaps even moreso-You were a first rounder.  Im excited to see ONE of the two become The starter.  Otton, you can catch sometimes, catch Big ones sometimes, but drop some Big ones sometimes and get "PICKED'on" on the most important play of your career thus far.  Will you let that happen again?  Or will you be the One "picking" up TD's, but can you learn to block???  Are you big enough, AW31 weight less and is shorter, but hes one of the Biggest PLAYERS on our team- heart size matters.  Im excited.  Mcollum and Izen and Palmer and Thompkins- I saw Flash and SIZZLE from EACH of YOU.  IM EXCITED AF!!!  CHASE and Jake.  Im excited AF!!!!

 

Future is bright boys, but today we lick our wounds.  We should won that fight...we SHOULDA WON THAT FIGHT.  Let Rage+trust be the fuel that grows you during the offseason.  That is all.

 

Ramon B 1981 GOOOOOOOOO BUCSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 11:59 am
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Great LEADERSHIP from Godwin

 

"“There wasn’t many people that gave us a shot to do anything this year, and I’m proud of all the guys in the locker room for the way that we handled all of that,” Godwin said. “Because it can be very easy for guys to look in the media and to read their press clippings and then just accept whatever fate is out there. But nobody did that throughout the entire season, and we understood that it mattered what we did week in and week out, day in and day out. That was going to ultimately decide our season.”

 

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 12:07 pm
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Pewter report just did a nice article that after signing Mayfield, Evans, Winfield, David, and McLaughlin; along with extending Wirfs; we would have about $16M in cap space.

 

this would include cutting Carlton Davis so add CB to needs.

think we need to add an edge rusher, followed by interior offensive line, and secondary help.

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 12:17 pm
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Canales is getting a 2nd interview with the Panthers. 

Would suck if he jets. 

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 2:01 pm
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Would be really surprising to see Canales go to the panthers given the ownership but that same ownership might not be adverse to bombing him with $

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 2:12 pm
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I count 29 I would like back. , Bucs better nail free agency and draft again 

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 2:18 pm
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Panthers job will come down to who is desperate enough to work for that moron 

 
Posted : Jan. 22, 2024 2:19 pm
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