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Bellichick would turn Sam into a nightmare for offenses.

Would he have Sam focus on the Tight Ends ??

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 6:46 pm
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WHAT DOES RACE (COLOR OF SKIN) HAVE TO DO WITH THE "GAY" ARGUMENT?Nothing.It never has- it never will.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 6:56 pm
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    And heaven help the exec/coach/team that drafts him, and in TC or later, he isn't deemed good enough to make the team...

Where was he projected to go? I think that's what will be watched the most.Say, if he's projected to be 20th, but falls to 30, ...there will be some questions.But, it's not all about someone being gay. It's also about a circus atmosphere, and the fact the IF he has to be cut..will he, or the media, blame the team for it?Fact is, it's much more complex than "he's gay."

He was projected by most to be a 2nd round pick, but didn't have a very good week at the Senior Bowl and slipped to the 3rd round on most sites.  Now, post announcement, he is listed as a 5th or 6th round guy on the majority of scouting websites. Most noticeable was CBS Sports. He went from being the 90th best player in the draft, to the 160th overnight. They caught a lot of heat and he magically moved up to 110th later that afternoon. It obviously affected the talking head internet scouts opinion of him. We'll have to wait and see if it affected his stock in the eyes of the people who actually matter. I hope he does slip. Would be awesome to get a player of his caliber in the 4th or 5th simply because the league is ignorant.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 7:42 pm
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I don't want the guy on the bucs. Not because he's gay, but because if the media circus that with surround the situation.First and foremost, football should be about winning, then money. I could care leas who he bangs, as long as the guy helps win a Lombardi.It's the ignorant helping the ignorant, I know, but are we a football team, or a social club?I would grudgingly pass, because this team has been so crappy for so long, idk if it could afford more stupid distractions.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 7:55 pm
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**CENSORED** the media. I'd draft him. Besides, the media circus thing is nonsense. There will be a lot of that during the draft process, but not once he drafted. Just like Manti Teo...it will be old news once the draft is over. Lovie, or any HC for that matter, will simply tell the media that none of his players or staff will entertain any questions regarding anyone's sexuality, and warn them that if they ignore his warning and continue to ask those questions, they will be banned from all Buccaneer press conferences. He would also tell his players that they are not to talk to reporters about it or discuss it on social media. If there are any problems, they should be reported directly to Lovie and handled in house. The end. No circus.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 7:58 pm
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If he's available in the fourth round. I'd love to have him be a Buc. He'd need to put on some mass, but he was a very good player before coming out and will be a very good player continuing forward.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 9:27 pm
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Reminds me of Larry English.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 9:39 pm
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Bellichick would turn Sam into a nightmare for offenses.

Except for the fact that Boston is a considerable town of all white people who share homophobic/racist tendencies so I seriously doubt that New Englanders want him on the team.

boston actually has a minority majority and is far more liberal minded than most of the country.  Mass has a black governor and had a homosexual congressman for many years.  I think you watch too many movies.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 9:48 pm
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    And heaven help the exec/coach/team that drafts him, and in TC or later, he isn't deemed good enough to make the team...

Where was he projected to go? I think that's what will be watched the most.Say, if he's projected to be 20th, but falls to 30, ...there will be some questions.But, it's not all about someone being gay. It's also about a circus atmosphere, and the fact the IF he has to be cut..will he, or the media, blame the team for it?Fact is, it's much more complex than "he's gay."

He was projected by most to be a 2nd round pick, but didn't have a very good week at the Senior Bowl and slipped to the 3rd round on most sites.  Now, post announcement, he is listed as a 5th or 6th round guy on the majority of scouting websites. Most noticeable was CBS Sports. He went from being the 90th best player in the draft, to the 160th overnight. They caught a lot of heat and he magically moved up to 110th later that afternoon. It obviously affected the talking head internet scouts opinion of him. We'll have to wait and see if it affected his stock in the eyes of the people who actually matter. I hope he does slip. Would be awesome to get a player of his caliber in the 4th or 5th simply because the league is ignorant.

I have seen him mocked in the 4th or 5th round, and thats before all the media attention. And I don't see him as good fit for the Bucs.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 11:41 pm
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    And heaven help the exec/coach/team that drafts him, and in TC or later, he isn't deemed good enough to make the team...

Where was he projected to go? I think that's what will be watched the most.Say, if he's projected to be 20th, but falls to 30, ...there will be some questions.But, it's not all about someone being gay. It's also about a circus atmosphere, and the fact the IF he has to be cut..will he, or the media, blame the team for it?Fact is, it's much more complex than "he's gay."

He was projected by most to be a 2nd round pick, but didn't have a very good week at the Senior Bowl and slipped to the 3rd round on most sites.  Now, post announcement, he is listed as a 5th or 6th round guy on the majority of scouting websites. Most noticeable was CBS Sports. He went from being the 90th best player in the draft, to the 160th overnight. They caught a lot of heat and he magically moved up to 110th later that afternoon. It obviously affected the talking head internet scouts opinion of him. We'll have to wait and see if it affected his stock in the eyes of the people who actually matter. I hope he does slip. Would be awesome to get a player of his caliber in the 4th or 5th simply because the league is ignorant.

I have seen him mocked in the 4th or 5th round, and thats before all the media attention. And I don't see him as good fit for the Bucs.

Agreed. I think Ealy would be better for us if we're going to pick up a Mizzou DE.

 
Posted : Feb. 11, 2014 11:49 pm
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I agree with jd about the media (fuck them), but at the same time, I just wouldn't risk it.Teams like the 49ers, pats, chargers, denver, etc can handle that issue better than teams like the bucs, browns, green bay, Dallas, Carolina, and Atlanta.Seems to me whoever drafts him will be from a big market team, out west, or in an area filled with homosexuals (maybe I should rewrite Atlanta and Carolina then?).Of course, if we were to draft him, we'd have to go back to the old logo. Jk jk..

 
Posted : Feb. 12, 2014 2:02 am
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Bellichick would turn Sam into a nightmare for offenses.

Would he have Sam focus on the Tight Ends ??

Probably could be used in coverage at his current weight, listed as 255. But he'll need to bulk up if he expects to get penetration.

 
Posted : Feb. 12, 2014 10:23 am
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Bellichick would turn Sam into a nightmare for offenses.

Would he have Sam focus on the Tight Ends ??

Probably could be used in coverage at his current weight, listed as 255. But he'll need to bulk up if he expects to get penetration.

LMAO

 
Posted : Feb. 12, 2014 10:29 am
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There are plenty of potential positives for a team as well. For example, successful teams often rally around some "us versus them" theme.  To the extent he is accepted by his teammates (a fact that probably turns more on ability than anything) his team might use the issue for "us versus them" motivation. In addition, his jersey will become a symbol no matter what team he plays for. The jersey will sell like crazy in the gay community and in the non-homophobic community. So, along with the "distraction" issues comes the opportunity for great PR for the team and the league. In fact, the team will have the full support of the league, which can never hurt.

 
Posted : Feb. 12, 2014 10:35 am
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Yeah. And then if he doesn't play very well, all of that support will turn against you.

 
Posted : Feb. 12, 2014 10:51 am
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