Fennelly: An uneasy Heisman handoffJameis Winston's night in New York was uncomfortable from the start. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS By Martin Fennelly | Tribune Staff Published: December 15, 2013 at 12:38 AMIt was supposed to be closure: New York City, bright lights, big announcement, people standing, the applause, Jameis Winston holding the trophy over his head, his beaming parents, all the smiles. And somewhere out there, probably his lawyer.Here was the dilemma for some of us:To cheer or not to cheer?I cheered not.Saturday was awkward.Winston won the Heisman Trophy, college football’s most revered individual award. Many did cheer. But there were probably more than a few people who wanted to give him a stiff arm. It will be that way again, next month, if Winston leads the Seminoles to the national championship over Auburn, on just his 20th birthday.There are some who will never believe in Winston’s innocence, despite the fact that he was not charged with any crime after an investigation surrounding an alleged sexual assault. That clearly includes his accuser. Her attorney, Patricia Carroll, held a news conference Friday, on the eve of the Heisman announcement, to call for an independent probe into the Winston case and Tallahassee police operations. Saturday was awkward.How awkward?Winston became the youngest Heisman winner in a rout, piling up 668 first-place votes, but it’s worth noting that he was left off 115 Heisman ballots, roughly 13 percent of the ballots turned in.That tells you all you need to know.We want our stars to do right. We want them to be role models.Then again, we’re never satisfied, are we?When we come across something too good to be true, we don’t trust that, either. Look at the Tim Tebow detractors, convinced no one could be that clean.Yes, we are a fickle sports nation.But there are real reasons to wonder if we should be cheering this Heisman winner.Even with the absence of charges, we know that something happened that, at the very least, in no way flatters the 2013 winner of this trophy, which, in its job title, is awarded annually to the college player “whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.”Maybe we’re dreaming, or simply fools, for ever trying to link athletic performance and integrity.Every Heisman winner can’t be Nile Kinnick or Ernie Davis, or Roger Staubach or Barry Sanders, or Danny Wuerffel.You idolize at your own risk.Maybe Heisman’s trustees needed to get the word “integrity” out of there a long time ago.1959 winner Billy Cannon went to prison after his playing days. 1972 winner Johnny Rodgers was convicted of robbing a gas station in 1970 (Rodgers was pardoned and his conviction was vacated last year). Oh, and O.J.What about 2005 winner Reggie Bush and the violations at USC? Bush had to hand his trophy back, a Heisman first. 2010 winner Cam Newton had legal issues at Florida before he won a Heisman at Auburn. 2012 winner Johnny Manziel was arrested the summer before he won the Heisman.There are too many pedestals being built and too few people to put on them.Still, the real deals, sometimes they come along.We just have to be patient.For now, Jameis Winston is a very great college football player. Maybe he will become a very great person.“I’ve got to grow,” Winston said Saturday night. “Every day I go out there, I’ve got to be a better man.”Saturday was awkward.
Yup. And people bitch about manziel...Those are words and pictures. This was accusation of rape.Even the arresting officer asked over and over, do you really want to proceed. Doesn't sound like it was handled right when the family of the victim is still pissed.
mehthe Heisman is handed to a human being. human beings are inherently flawed
"human beings are inherently flawed."What's one little rape in the big picture?
"human beings are inherently flawed."What's one little rape in the big picture?
last I checked he wasn't charged so there was no rape as far as the legal system is concerned. stop being a dumbass. I can make accusations that youre a racist right now, doesn't mena its true. if theres not evidence then essentially nothing happened
"human beings are inherently flawed."What's one little rape in the big picture?
last I checked he wasn't charged so there was no rape as far as the legal system is concerned. stop being a dumbass. I can make accusations that youre a racist right now, doesn't mena its true. if theres not evidence then essentially nothing happened
LOL, strong calling someone a dumbass when you are a bigger dumbass "no charges, no rape" oh lawdMaybe there would be evidence if his boys didnt delete the cellphone videos
"human beings are inherently flawed."What's one little rape in the big picture?
last I checked he wasn't charged so there was no rape as far as the legal system is concerned. stop being a dumbass. I can make accusations that youre a racist right now, doesn't mena its true. if theres not evidence then essentially nothing happened
LOL, strong calling someone a dumbass when you are a bigger dumbass "no charges, no rape" oh lawdMaybe there would be evidence if his boys didnt delete the cellphone videos
Fair statement. But it could have been evidence that would have slammed this case shut for good. Considering they didn't identify Jameis for over a month, and they didn't even know she had reported anything to the police, the phone could have been gone before they knew anything about it. No way to know.
"human beings are inherently flawed."What's one little rape in the big picture?
last I checked he wasn't charged so there was no rape as far as the legal system is concerned. stop being a dumbass. I can make accusations that youre a racist right now, doesn't mena its true. if theres not evidence then essentially nothing happened
LOL, strong calling someone a dumbass when you are a bigger dumbass "no charges, no rape" oh lawdMaybe there would be evidence if his boys didnt delete the cellphone videos
im calling him a dumbass because hes making a dumbass assumption of guilt. im assuming you tards never read the findings from the State Attorney. if you actually believe the "victim" is a credible person then I don't know what to tell you. her story changes way too many times for her to be telling the truth. go to college and see how often this kind of thing happens. its usually fueled by alcohol and regret over making a poor choice. someone claims rape because they're embarrassed and then don't go through with a police report because they think things through and realize it was a bad choice and not rape. that's why the police ask if the victim wants to go forward with an investigation. I personally know a girl who did exactly this and she started singing a different tune when her friends checked her for making shit up because she could ruin someone's life
If you believe he's innocent, then how is he "inherently flawed"? Doesn't quite add up.
If you believe he's innocent, then how is he "inherently flawed"? Doesn't quite add up.
wow its not hardno human being is perfect. everyone makes mistakes. hence an inherent flaw. even Tim Tebow, who as much as I hate to say it, is about as perfect a person as youd ever meet has made mistakes, told a lie, etc. nobody is perfect, all humans make mistakes. I think Jameis has made mistakes by cheating on his girlfriend and putting himself into a dumb situation like this
I'll preface this with saying that I'm a devout Gator fan. That said, I think it speaks volumes that there was not even enough evidence to justify a charge. With the way that this case skyrocketed into the national spotlight, you better believe the State's Attorney was going to take this case very, very seriously. Getting arrested and charged with rape and/or sexual assault would have been one thing but to not be charged at all......after this much attention? Yeah, I don't believe the guy was guilty.
If you believe he's innocent, then how is he "inherently flawed"? Doesn't quite add up.
Just a guess, but I think it's a non biblical way of saying "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God."
I'll preface this with saying that I'm a devout Gator fan. That said, I think it speaks volumes that there was not even enough evidence to justify a charge. With the way that this case skyrocketed into the national spotlight, you better believe the State's Attorney was going to take this case very, very seriously. Getting arrested and charged with rape and/or sexual assault would have been one thing but to not be charged at all......after this much attention? Yeah, I don't believe the guy was guilty.
spot on post. usually you never hear about anything like this because its taken care of properly and the potential suspect's name never comes into the public light unless there is actually a case to go on
This dude is looking better to me all the time, trouble is, it will most likely require a 0-16 season from the Bucs next year. Its hard to imagine the team going 0-16 next season, too much talent on the team. No matter who is coaching. I am getting weary of watching bad football.
I'll preface this with saying that I'm a devout Gator fan. That said, I think it speaks volumes that there was not even enough evidence to justify a charge. With the way that this case skyrocketed into the national spotlight, you better believe the State's Attorney was going to take this case very, very seriously. Getting arrested and charged with rape and/or sexual assault would have been one thing but to not be charged at all......after this much attention? Yeah, I don't believe the guy was guilty.
Hit the nail square sir, good post.