less talent for sure but good god the play calling was painfully too predictable which put the offensive at a huge disadvantage
I agree the play calling was painful, but that just mean they are going to open it up on 'dem Cowboys! I bet they sneak Brady out as a receiver!!!!!!!
Agreed, there was a drop off in talent that contributed toward a worse W-L record than in 2020 and 2021. That said, there were games versus lesser teams that should not have been lost even with the drop off in talent [Pittsburgh, Carolina, Cleveland] and games where the Bucs just barely eked out a win [Atlanta, LA Rams, New Orleans, Arizona, Carolina]. The offense has been handcuffed by vanilla schemes, predictable play calling, and poor use of personnel. Too many drives were stalled out by trying to run the ball on first and/or second down when teams were keying on stopping the run. It's almost like the Bucs threw away a down on many possessions. Too many possessions were 3 and out which kept our defense on the field too long. And too many bonehead penalties that brought back scores or stifled drives.
Yet despite all this, the Bucs are NFC South Champions for the second year in a row and hosting the Cowpukes as the #4 seed in the playoffs. I like our chances next Monday night. The Cowpukes aren't coming in with momentum either, and the game should be a good game to watch and the Bucs have a good chance to win. If the Bucs win, the road will get more difficult, but if this team plays up to its potential, it can beat any of the other teams in the NFC tournament and get to the Super Bowl.
The offense has been handcuffed by vanilla schemes, predictable play calling, and poor use of personnel. Too many drives were stalled out by trying to run the ball on first and/or second down when teams were keying on stopping the run. It's almost like the Bucs threw away a down on many possessions. Too many possessions were 3 and out which kept our defense on the field too long. And too many bonehead penalties that brought back scores or stifled drives.
100% spot on.
Might be difficult for the “pLaYaCtIoN oNlY wOrKs iF yOu rUn gOoD” crowd to comprehend.
What experienced OC would come to The Bucs knowing the HC throttles back a great passing game and opts for a useless running game?
the Head Coach:
"Mental toughness,” Bowles said. “We make it hard, but we can dig ourselves out of a hole. The guys will stick together no matter what. They’ve jelled into a tough, tight-knit team. We knew we’re not the same team from the past, but at the same time, we figure we can work and outwork everybody, and beat’em that way.”
weird, huh?
a former Head Coach
"“On paper, they oughtta kill Tampa Bay, the oldest slowest team in the league,” Ryan bellowed. “By the way, they ain’t even .500. You should kick their butts. You should. … C’mon, dude, Tampa Bay can’t score.”
Hopefully our players see/hear all this trash and take it out on dem cowboys
Are we the oldest team? Outside of Brady, the only old guys that have been with TB for awhile are Jensen, Lavonte, and Gholston. All the other old dudes are one-year contract guys who won't be around next year, except maybe Logan Ryan.
As for slow... Defense I wouldn't say is slow. On offense, none of our starting WR or RBs are burners, so I guess that's kinda valid. Think overall speed on offense will be priority number 1 on offense this offseason, in addition to getting rid of the overpriced one-year old dudes. Bye Julio and Rudolph!
I don't think this game will come down to age or speed, so he's spewing crap. I know a lot of people are picking the Bucs. I can't understand why based on most of their performances this year, but anything can happen.
I think the Bucs can beat the Cowboys. The Bucs can shutdown the run and that is a big part of it. If we can get any offense going . . .
Rex Ryan is a bit full of spit, but we are pretty old/slow on offense. Brady obviously, Lenny is not a burner. Julio is old, not what he was. Godwin is slowed by injury and none of our TEs are burners or at least they don't seem to be in the shadow of Gronk
Evans can get deep against the right defense, but we cannot (so far) force people into that defense
Are we the oldest team? Outside of Brady, the only old guys that have been with TB for awhile are Jensen, Lavonte, and Gholston. All the other old dudes are one-year contract guys who won't be around next year, except maybe Logan Ryan.
As for slow... Defense I wouldn't say is slow. On offense, none of our starting WR or RBs are burners, so I guess that's kinda valid. Think overall speed on offense will be priority number 1 on offense this offseason, in addition to getting rid of the overpriced one-year old dudes. Bye Julio and Rudolph!
I don't think this game will come down to age or speed, so he's spewing crap. I know a lot of people are picking the Bucs. I can't understand why based on most of their performances this year, but anything can happen.
Scotty Miller is one of the fastest players in the league and he's parked on the bench. They used him in desperation vs the Ravens and immediately drew a 45 yard PI. They used him in desperation vs the Rams and he changed the game. It's fucking ridiculous.
Are we the oldest team? Outside of Brady, the only old guys that have been with TB for awhile are Jensen, Lavonte, and Gholston. All the other old dudes are one-year contract guys who won't be around next year, except maybe Logan Ryan.
As for slow... Defense I wouldn't say is slow. On offense, none of our starting WR or RBs are burners, so I guess that's kinda valid. Think overall speed on offense will be priority number 1 on offense this offseason, in addition to getting rid of the overpriced one-year old dudes. Bye Julio and Rudolph!
I don't think this game will come down to age or speed, so he's spewing crap. I know a lot of people are picking the Bucs. I can't understand why based on most of their performances this year, but anything can happen.
Bucs Over 30: Brady 45, Succop 36, Rudolph, Jones, Gabbert, Hicks 33, David 32, Wells, Jensen, Brate, Bernard, Ryan, Gholston, Triner 31, Barrett 30.
Per Geoff Schwartz
Teams have to commit to running the ball first to open up PA and they don’t
but he just played the game , so what would he know
That quote is roughly 2018 and is actually the focus of a Football Outsider analysis paraphrased here often as "you dont have to be goo at running to run PA"
I can probably save the board a bunch of "soy boys" and "simpletons**" by pointing out that Ben Baldwin wrote a SECOND follow up to the first refuting this quote. In that second piece he listed this as the FIRST conclusion:
"First, play-action passes are most effective when there's the greatest situational threat of a run. Examples include play-action being more effective from under center than shotgun, being more effective on early downs, and being more effective for teams with a lead."
FWIW . . those three examples (Buggsy the word "examples" means there are more not listed here) probably tell us something about the Bucs in 2022
(** who am I kidding? We all know the "soy boys" and simpleton" posts are coming anyway)
FWIW, Ben Baldwin is an economist not a football player.
That is his excuse for suggesting teams should just run a lot more PA because it is more effective - the modern equivalent of "run 24 times to win" (because the team with the lead of runs more).
Allen Iverson had a great crossover. He didn't use it every time. He also went right A LOT (the set up for his crossover)
Mike Tyson knocked out many opponents with a brutal uppercut that usually followed . . . . . . a brutal body shot set up.
Michael Jordan was famous for many things, but one of his most critical moves was the PULL UP JUMPER. His pull up was so effective . .BECAUSE HE ROUTINELY DROVE BY PEOPLE
Play action passing is MOST EFFECTIVE when the circumstances are most suggestive of a real run threat (as Ben says: the lead, the down and distance etc). That doesn't mean you have to be good at running BUT being good at running certainly helps because it often makes the threat more real and already has an opposing defense committing players to stop the run
if your team is down 2 scores with under 4:00 to play and facing 3rd and 23 you can play action all you want buts its probably not going to pull the MLB forward. If you're up 12 with under four to go and it second and 2 . . .
Per Geoff Schwartz
Teams have to commit to running the ball first to open up PA and they don’t
but he just played the game , so what would he know
You love to be ignorant in the face of all factual data and obvious evidence. But there is still hope for you. For well over a decade, Mr. Cronkite was in the same football-dumbass boat you're in now. Luckily, he found some article saying the exact same thing he was told on this board for over a decade and now he thinks he's some expert. Keep on trucking, slugger.
Per Geoff Schwartz
Teams have to commit to running the ball first to open up PA and they don’t
but he just played the game , so what would he know
You love to be ignorant in the face of all factual data and obvious evidence. But there is still hope for you. For well over a decade, Mr. Cronkite was in the same football-dumbass boat you're in now. Luckily, he found some article saying the exact same thing he was told on this board for over a decade and now he thinks he's some expert. Keep on trucking, slugger.
Imagine coming up with that lie (in bold) as a retort to another poster's post. LMAO
Imaging posting that lie because you previously posted "there's no correlation between running and passing in the NFL" based on an obvious misunderstanding of Ben Baldwin's first article and so you want to deflect from that.
If you can imagine either, you'd understand why Buggsy's dog doesn't stand a chance.
Someone call the ASPCA lol
