New England, Pittsburgh, Denver, and Atlanta all hope we go cheap on Baker. They know something some of you don't.
And, what exactly is that?
Even if he had to use Rachaad White as a battering ram to keep them off balance…
yes efficient running slows pass rush
staying on time down and distance slow pass rush
an elusive QB slows pass rush
A Mayfield stays home prediction from ESPN
Yeah, here’s another big-name Tampa Bay free agent returning, but it makes sense. Given Mayfield’s production over the second half of last season and some impressive playoff tape (two postseason games with over 300 passing yards), there will be free agent interest for the veteran quarterback. But in this new Tampa Bay system — which will fit his aggressive throwing mentality behind defined play-action concepts and schemed verticals — I think Mayfield could keep posting big numbers.
ESPN does not seem to realize Mayfield doesn't have "verticals" in his wheelhouse.
ESPN must not have done a regression analysis on the Baker Mayfield spreadsheet.
ESPN does not seem to realize Mayfield doesn't have "verticals" in his wheelhouse.
Don’t really care to go through the metrics of his time with his previous 3 teams, but for the majority of last season, he was far and away the worst deep ball passer in the NFL (historically bad).
It was talked about ad nauseam.
Queipo wrote an article about it, if I remember correctly.
Watching the Detroit game live, even my wife asked if I had ever seen a QB miss that many wide open receivers. It was comically bad.
He did improve at the tail end of the season, but the overwhelming majority of it was awful.
Ironically, as the line improved, the run game improved, and as you note, the deep ball improved.
Its not rocket surgery.
Part of the problem was his throwing the deep ball when the player is covered and not finding the underneath guy. That's a decision-making issue. Nobody thinks Mayfield is Matt Stafford. Mayfield isn't going to be paid $50 mil or even $40 mil. The range talked about is between $30 and $38 mil per year - big difference in the top and bottom of the range. On offense the Bucs need to continue to play complementary football, improve the middle of the O-line and the running game. Mayfield didn't turn the ball over. That's #1 on Bowles' list. So Mayfield fits what the Bucs want to do as long as his contract doesn't prevent the Bucs from building the team around him.ESPN does not seem to realize Mayfield doesn't have "verticals" in his wheelhouse.
Don’t really care to go through the metrics of his time with his previous 3 teams, but for the majority of last season, he was far and away the worst deep ball passer in the NFL (historically bad).
It was talked about ad nauseam.
Queipo wrote an article about it, if I remember correctly.
Watching the Detroit game live, even my wife asked if I had ever seen a QB miss that many wide open receivers. It was comically bad.
He did improve at the tail end of the season, but the overwhelming majority of it was awful.
What is the point where Licht says he just cant go any higher? I think it's about $35 mil for three years, two guaranteed. If another team wants to hit the $40 mil mark then I think Licht lets him go. Licht is too smart to overpay because of a bidding war. That's why I said the tag could be in play for him. The idea that Mayfield isn't in that much demand around the league - I'm not buying that. If you are a team who needs a QB now, the choices are Cousins, Minshew, Mayfield or trade a high draft pick for Fields who has two years of team control left. I think Mayfield is the preferred choice there. There are people in the league other than the Bucs who have always liked Mayfield. Some team is going to make a serious play for him.
There are people in the league other than the Bucs who have always liked Mayfield. Some team is going to make a serious play for him.
I’ve already asked this to a poster, who’s blatantly dodging, so I’ll ask you:
Where were these teams last offseason?
Part of the problem was his throwing the deep ball when the player is covered and not finding the underneath guy. That's a decision-making issue.
True. Another part was not seeing the open deep guy and attempting a throw. A third part is making the right read on the deep throw, but making a bad throw. All of this happened, with or without the success of the run game.
Nobody thinks Mayfield is Matt Stafford.
I wouldn't be so quick with that. There are plenty of Baker Bros on here that overrate Mayfield.
Baker’s worth it.
Intersting.
All these smart franchises that know something we don't.
Where were they again a year ago?
Part of the problem was his throwing the deep ball when the player is covered and not finding the underneath guy. That's a decision-making issue.
Agree with this to an extent.
But, for a good part of the season, he was simply whiffing on receivers who were not only "NFL Open" but also "Wide Ass Open".
As mentioned, it did get better at the end of the season.
Nobody thinks Mayfield is Matt Stafford.
Bro...where have you been?
Baker being better than Stafford and Goff was like 2 weeks ago.
Last week, it was Baker is better than Hurts and Dak.
THIS WEEK we're on the chapter where Baker is better than Cousins.
I'm sure we'll open March with "bAlLeRz" is better than Allen and Burrow.
Mahomes should be shitting a pink Twinkie come April.
Let’s not forget that it’s Jason Licht, Greenie, SpyTech, Todd Bowels, and Liam Coen, who ‘over-estimate’ Baker Mayfield.
Some of us just have no problem agreeing with them.
ESPN does not seem to realize Mayfield doesn't have "verticals" in his wheelhouse.
Don’t really care to go through the metrics of his time with his previous 3 teams, but for the majority of last season, he was far and away the worst deep ball passer in the NFL (historically bad).
It was talked about ad nauseam.
Queipo wrote an article about it, if I remember correctly.
Watching the Detroit game live, even my wife asked if I had ever seen a QB miss that many wide open receivers. It was comically bad.
He did improve at the tail end of the season, but the overwhelming majority of it was awful.
I dont think anyone says he did not struggle with some deep balls last season, getting better at the end.
I think the question was only whether his performance LAST SEASON is him.
To me, the focus on last season only is inconsistent.
