Send Baker Mayfield packing. All the teams that have had him and he tries to collect the bounty off the very last team. Screw you Baker and get your Arse out of tampa. What a miscarriage of justice. I am no fan favorite of an idiot who gave them a second breath of fresh air. Go away....
lmao. So just to explain to you how it works. Lawyers aka their agents get in the way and will try to negotiate and of course we are all (mostly) driven by money unless of course you are married to a billionaire model (Brady) so let’s not use his name in vain just yet.
yes it’s asinine to expect 40 + for one good season when his career has been rollercoaster
certainly let him test the market and if some other Knucklehead team wants to throw that cash at him, let’s go get Russell Wilson stat.
We’ve already been told that it’s a negotiation - the Bucs were as unrealistic as Mayfield’s agent. $44m was a starting point by Baker’s agent o work back from - $25m was Grenies point to work forward from…
Baker-haters are just using it to try & assert their new focus (Baker’s greedy)…he’s a good QB trying to earn his last big deal. Bucs are hoping to sign him for less.
Baker has the leverage.
We’re heading towards Sunday, we’ll see how it all works out while we’ll all just chill.
Any guesses on the years/aav?
3/75 50 guaranteed wouldn’t be bad.
incentive laden hopefully
Any guesses on the years/aav?
3/75 50 guaranteed wouldn’t be bad.
incentive laden hopefully
I'd give him 3yr/$90M (with an AAV of $30M...which would also be incentive laden).
I'd guarantee $45M-$50M.
It would most likely give us a 2 year look at him where we can extend him after Y2 or ditch him if he reverts back to dogshit with a minimal dead cap hit.
If Baker doesn't like it, hit the bricks.
Kudos to his agent if he was able to keep a straight face asking for $44M AAY on 4-5 years as a starting point.
Mayfield says Jones. The Bucs say Smith. They'll settle on Carr.
As I said in a previous post, the Mayfield camp is looking long and hard at the $100 mil guaranteed money. The Bucs can balloon the last year of a four year contract which he may never see because of a future restructure or whatever. But Mayfield is going to want that $100 mil. The Bucs wll try to hold that guaranteed figure down to $80 or $90 mil with a four year deal.
Licht is hitching his wagon to Mayfield unlike anybody since using the first overall pick on Jameis Winston. With the amount of money he's giving to Mayfield the Bucs will be locked in for three years to this guy. Maybe a fourth year will have an opportunity to get out of it. They'll have to break the bank for Wirfs, but that's different because you know what you are getting with Wirfs. With Mayfield it's less certain that he's going to be able to stay healthy and play good football for his contract. You have to get a QB, but it's a big risk no matter how you slice it.
As I said in a previous post, the Mayfield camp is looking long and hard at the $100 mil guaranteed money.
Then they can look elsewhere.
It’s easy to blame Baker Mayfield… it sounds like the Bucs are playing hardball, too. $25m is just as low as $44m is high. A starting QB hitting FA in this market may show his relative value, at a time when a division rival can take advantage, in two ways.
I think the Bucs are going to have to come up more, and they know it, Baker will take less, and he knows it.
Finding a middle, and contract length/details, is likely this is about.
Don’t think either side walks. It could be, but if so, it would be on both sides.
I guess. You drive a hard bargain. We'll see.As I said in a previous post, the Mayfield camp is looking long and hard at the $100 mil guaranteed money.
Then they can look elsewhere.
It’s not a hard bargain. It’s common sense.
He’s done nothing to earn $100M GUARANTEED.
yeah the AAV part won't be an issue, easy to fix with incentives.(see Mike Evans deal)
the guaranteed money is the biggest part of the negotiation... and Licht should play hard ball.
Baker's delusional, he had a good year (only 9-8 in the reg season with an easy schedule in the worst division!) but the track record against winning team was bad and the dumb interception in the 4th Qtr against the Lions still bother me! (only proved he's still starting material!)
one down year and Bowles will be on the hot seat... Licht can't risk more than 2-year gtd on the deal!
see the Giants and Broncos, stuck with Daniel Jones contract or huge dead money to get rid of Russell Wilson!
Daniel Jones total gtd = $105M
Geno Smith total gtd = $40M
the $65M gap in gtd money is a huge differential!
Baker's only a priority for us... Falcons & Vikings wants Kirk (probably looking for gtd money in the Aaron Rodgers range = $75M gtd)... Bears, Commanders, Pats, Giants, Raiders & Broncos seems to prioritize the draft (and/or the cheap stopgap)... Steelers looking for the cheap vet...
and i'll be shocked if there is one GM who prefer to sign Baker for $100M gtd over a Brissett, Russ Wilson, Jimmy G, Flacco or Tanehill on a low one-year deal + a rookie (very good draft class)... or a trade, Justin Fields price will go down, Mac Jones's probably available for a Day 3 pick...
if there isn't a dumb GM to think he deserve the Carr/Jones deal over the Geno Smith/Jimmy G treatment, he'll have little to no leverage when FA begin!
if they lose the Kirk Cousins battle, the Falcons are probably the biggest threat... but if a team wants to overpay for Baker, i'll prefer a division rival!
would like Baker back, but i wants my Bucs back in the SB... unless you can pick the next Mahomes in the draft, sign the GOAT in FA or trade for a Stafford/Rodgers, the only way to build a contender start with a 2nd tier QB on a discount!
Fuck this guy. He got way too much credit last year. Sign Wilson for vet min
it sounds like the Bucs are playing hardball, too. $25m is just as low as $44m is high.
Truth ^^
In and earlier article SR concluded that the "floor" for Mayfield was $30 million, so $25 million is lows by that analysis., just like $4$ is high.
SR also placed the top at $38, so his range was $30-$38.
The midpoint between the reported offers of $25 and $44 is . . . $34.5
That doesn't mean they will get it don at that number BUT it means they are in a range that should get a deal done.
Fuck this guy. He got way too much credit last year. Sign Wilson for vet min
"Big time GM" JC5100 . . .hoping to guide the Bucs to a 2024 Cash Management Super Bowl
With the amount of money he's giving to Mayfield the Bucs will be locked in for three years to this guy.
Dude, I hope you're wrong. This upcoming contract has the potential to set the franchise back to mediocrity if Baker resorts back to his career stats. If he had just been consistent, not consistently good, just consistently average, then we would know what we are getting and can build a team around it.
Baker's delusional, he had a good year (only 9-8 in the reg season with an easy schedule in the worst division!) but the track record against winning team was bad
This. All. Day. This.