Dude, I hope you're wrong
Agreed.
How anyone could be rooting for a long term deal with $100M in guaranteed money is beyond me.
If the Bucs don't get Mayfield back, hard pass on Russell Wilson. Premadonna. Higher than thou attitude. Legend in his own mind, feels he can win two more SBs in the next 5 years. False bravado. Just look at the crap he pulled in Denver until Sean Payton came to town and restored order. NO THANKS. Better to pursue other options which won't split the locker room.
How anyone could be rooting for a long term deal with $100M in guaranteed money is beyond me.
is anyone though?
is that number also anything more that TraskForce's opinion? I don't see anyone reporting that, but may have missed it
Fuck this guy. He got way too much credit last year. Sign Wilson for vet min
"Big time GM" JC5100 . . .hoping to guide the Bucs to a 2024 Cash Management Super Bowl
Sorry for wanting the Bucs to give out good contracts and not just piss cap room away.
Every contract locks you in, otherwise it’s a one year deal, and that would require leverage.
Baker’s agent is negotiating on behalf of his client. Baker didn’t agree to a one year, ‘prove it’ deal in a vacuum. The Bucs had leverage then, and they used it. In the timeframe since that negotiation, the market changed in Baker’s favor and the leverage is now on the players side, and he’s using it.
If you don’t like getting ‘locked-in’, then you’re going to have to make it up on the guarantee side. The market has been established by the QB-needy teams that plan to run an offense that fits Baker’s skill set. That’s reality.
It’s a negotiation and it’s going to be a fair deal, and that means it will be fair to both sides.
It’s pretty simple, another poster gave a great analogy when they compared the contracts of recent QB’s: Baker knows he’s not going to get a Daniel Jones deal, but the Bucs know he’s not going to take a Geno Smith deal. Which means it will probably be more like a Derek Carr deal - and all each side are determining is how much it will cost to limit the term of the deal. That will likely require a concession on guarantee.
Baker is letting his agent handle the business side of this, but he’s already made it clear he wants to be here.
is anyone though?
is that number also anything more that TraskForce's opinion? I don't see anyone reporting that, but may have missed it
The usual suspects.
I’ve seen a few on Twitter suggesting something regarding $80M guaranteed.
Which, again, would be incredibly stupid.
Not worried.
Bucs, as they’ve always had, hold the leverage here.
Licht put all his eggs in the Baker basket.
Cousins and Wilson are probably going to demand just as much and COULD have zero chemistry with Evans and Godwin.
We didn’t just resign Evans with a promise to him that Trask would lead the charge.
Our draft spot is too late to take a premium QB.
It’s Baker or bust. His agent knows this too.
Mayfield says Jones. The Bucs say Smith. They'll settle on Carr.
Derek Carr is as mediocre as they come. $37.5M per year
He is a proven loser but puts up enough stats to keep his teams around .500
thing is, he's been doing it for 10 years
Baker's done it 3 years with being dog poo for the other 3 years
he's worth $25-$33M. As others have said, maybe the $25M is the base and he has kickers to get to the $33M.
we took a chance on him and gave him a starting gig when no one else would. The pickings are also slim this year, maybe 3-4 opportunities at best case scenario with others also going for those positions in Kurk Cousins and Russell Wilson.
can't imagine anyone would throw a 4 year, $150M Derek Carr type deal at Baker after 1 season of reviving his careerr.
Bucs should keep him hungry. a 3 year deal that gives them the flexibility to kick him to the curb in year 3.
he's going to get something from the Bucs that is mid to high $30s AAY
wild guess
he's going to get something from the Bucs that is mid to high $30s AAY
wild guess
I honestly don’t care about the AAY.
The guaranteed money is what matters regarding dead cap and exit strategy.
That’s why $50M guaranteed and 3/yrs should be the max.
I'll throw out another name. Sam Darnold.
I'll throw out another name. Sam Darnold.
Ewwwwwwww
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202301010tam.htm
he's going to get something from the Bucs that is mid to high $30s AAY
wild guess
I honestly don’t care about the AAY.
The guaranteed money is what matters regarding dead cap and exit strategy.
That’s why $50M guaranteed and 3/yrs should be the max.
The difference between someone who follows the contracts closely (you) and someone who does not (me). I definitely get your point.
I'll throw out another name. Sam Darnold.
Does this mean you think Mayfield = Darnold OR position not worth the $?