I’ve seen enough of Baker thus far this year to give him a bit longer of a leash than just 1 bad game. Today wasn’t his best game, but the truth is, the Lions are simply a better team than we are right now. They are like the “better version” of the Bucs at the first quarter mark of the year. I hope with time, that changes and we surpass them. In the mean time, give credit where credit is due, the Lions were physical, mistake free, and team balanced with solid offense, defense, and ST (aside from their kicker). Once we have given the credit, pick yourself off the ground, dust yourself off, and get back to work. Let’s see how he bounces back next week, the team, the coaching staff, all of them from the bottom of the organization to the top, rise!!!
The Bucs with Baker at QB can beat the bad teams, but have yet to beat a team with a winning record.
I'm not hopping off the bandwagon, but obviously people have maybe overestimated his capabilities. He was not dropping dimes on the deep ball, and perhaps that's not his forte. He has leadership, poise, escapability and ability to read defenses. But he doesn't have great touch on the deep ball. He'll do better than today, but I don't think today was a total anomaly. They basically dared Mayfield to throw it deep, and he had time to throw for the most part. He just kept overthrowing it. Teams are going to make that adjustment and challenge Mayfield to throw it deep.
He's a solid game manager QB. That's what Bowles wants - a game manager....combined with a good running game. And hence the problem. Mayfield can't take over a game with his arm when the running game fails. And the running game was horrible. So Mayfield isn't going to bail us out when that happens.
Baker will play good against bad teams and bucs fan will be drinking the kool aid again. Baker is not a good qb; he’s average and in a good system. Our OL gave him a lot of time to throw and he flat out missed them.
Mayfield had a bad game so did most of the offensive skill players
that said , looks like JL got a steal in Palmer
Great benchmark game.
Without the turnovers and record-setting 3rd down performance … against a legit playoff team … we are an incomplete team rebuilding after a SB run
https://x.com/ledyardnfldraft/status/1713675761029181635?s=46
curious if we have a stat for in and out of pocket?
https://x.com/ledyardnfldraft/status/1713675761029181635?s=46
curious if we have a stat for in and out of pocket?
I would ask why it matters, but I know the ignorant nonsense and useless internet scouring that will follow. So it’s better to just lolz.
https://x.com/ledyardnfldraft/status/1713675761029181635?s=46
curious if we have a stat for in and out of pocket?
I would ask why it matters, but I know the ignorant nonsense and useless internet scouring that will follow. So it’s better to just lolz.
so fragile
I am still a Baker guy. He did not have a good game, but i would take him over about 22 other starting qbs in this league without question.
It's funny how this thread opened and we see that performance yesterday. The reality is Baker has been playing his best ball during the first 4 games, though he missed some wide open shots early against the Eagles as well. Now he's regressed to playing like Baker normally has. Batted down passes. Missing wide open throws. Ledyard's posts have the Goedeke/Hutchinson battle and shows on that last deep ball over the middle, he missed wide open to the left as well as intermediate in the middle (Godwin wide open about 15 yards down field coming in from the right sideline). Baker bakes, right? We saw glimpses of this in camp and preseason. Baker struggled to consistently move the chains, while Trask regularly did so, but Baker scored more TD's in the first preseason game. Who here thinks Trask doesn't hit wide open Evans on that first shot play that Baker had batted and picked off?
Baker will probably play well enough within this offense to beat so-so and bad teams, but the top tier teams will shut him down. He's not the long term answer.
Who here thinks Trask doesn't hit wide open Evans on that first shot play that Baker had batted and picked off?
I auess you mean because Trask is taller and maybe thats fair BUT the thing is that football isn't played one play (tipped pass on 1st down) in a vacuum, so does Trask survive opening day against Vikings and escape the rush and convert third downs like Baker had etc.
Not defending Baker just saying that there are multiple reasonable reasons why Mayfield won the starter role
there are multiple reasonable reasons why Mayfield won the starter role
I don't think that's the case. I believe experience is the only reason.
