I warned you about the Godwin deal with no injury clause. Most celebrated, sighed in relief when he was resigned. I'm about the only one who threw up the red flag. Now I'm throwing up another red flag - Baker's extension.
It's a foregone conclusion. Any hometown discount will be minimal because Licht doesn't want to go cheap on guys who mean a lot to the team and have been playing for under market value. Godwin got paid because he quietly accepted the tag. Baker will get paid because he's been proving it with his "prove it" contracts. That's how Licht operates. He's loyal. He's a good GM.
But there are times when perhaps this team would be better off to bench the beer drinking ACDC loving GM and call to the bullpen for the cold-blooded three-piece suit wearing GM. The GM who's paying for future performance. That's what we need just for this one thing.
A 3-year deal would be ideal, but Baker is going to get the market rate - a five-year deal for about $300 mil and probably almost all guaranteed. He'll be 32 when the extension kicks in and 37 when it ends. He'll be taking a big bite out of that cap and that's fine if he's performing as a top 10 QB that whole time. I can hope he will, but realistically the way he plays I think his best year is this year. Nowhere to go but down.
Baker won't learn how to play it safe and dump the ball ala Tom Brady. He's got moxie. He's going to moxie himself into more and more injuries. He plays hurt and when he does, he's not as good. Whether it's a hip or ankle or another body part it all affects the body part that matters - his arm.
Of the 90+ games from 2027 through 2031 how many do you think Baker will be at at least 90% healthy? 50%?
This extension could be, is likely to be a cap killer IMO because I don't think Baker will be healthy enough. I think his body will be breaking down over time.
There are options. There are QBs who have come off the scrap heap. Danny Jones. Sam Darnold. If you have good blocking it's amazing what can happen. Even Licht has pulled a QB off the scrap heap - Baker Mayfield.
Its a foregone conclusion. But I'll say it right now for the record - Don't do it! Go back to the scrap heap again. Draft a QB. Something. Just don't pay $300 mil guaranteed to Baker Mayfield.
There's options between 300m and what he currently makes
Top 10 QB’s are expensive.
Actually, a QB that fits your offense, produces, and can give you an option to win games (when healthy), playing within the system, or by extending plays on his own to win them, is also expensive. The fact that we’ve already gotten Baker on two under market contracts can be factored into the total.
Like good QB’s before him, he also knows he needs good pieces around him to be effective (skill positions), and seems he has shown to consider that as well.
but as I said last year when we were debating whether he was worth $40m - good QB’s are expensive. You’re going to pay them, or you’re going to lose, a lot.
Yeah I think it will be more like a contract that gets him to age 35, one that acts like a 4 year deal, $200 million and basically a raise for next year.
we will see how the season plays out but assuming Bucs to 11-6 with the injuries they had, they need to extend Baker
the hope is he doesn’t get a 60 million dollar deal so we will try for $50m per eye but even $55 isn’t a bad idea
it will be the length and given his age can’t imagine most would give him more than 4 years
You're dreaming.Yeah I think it will be more like a contract that gets him to age 35, one that acts like a 4 year deal, $200 million and basically a raise for next year.
Didn’t Jared Goff just do a 4 year extension?
same with dak prescott who heck even Jerry just extended 4 years?
I think 4 years is likely with a raise is due. If you think my 50m is low, I don’t see more than 55m
I warned you about the Godwin deal with no injury clause. Most celebrated, sighed in relief when he was resigned. I'm about the only one who threw up the red flag. Now I'm throwing up another red flag - Baker's extension.
Remind us again of all the players we weren't able to re-sign because of Godwin's deal.
Because THAT was your big red flag.
Look forward to your list.
If Baker is healthy there's no question he'll be well worth the money. but the Tom Bradys and Matthew Staffords can play until they're old and gray because they don't take a lot of hits. Baker takes a beating and he's going to get hurt again and again. It's just the way he plays. And nobody on this team is telling him to change his style of play. We love it. Fans love it. Players and coaches love it. His body doesn't love it.Top 10 QB’s are expensive.good QB’s are expensive. You’re going to pay them, or you’re going to lose, a lot.
You are right. $20 mil per year is a big chunk of the cap, but it's not the end of the world. $300 mil for five years is a different matter altogether. Of course it's all relative to the cap which will presumably expand because of 18 games.I warned you about the Godwin deal with no injury clause. Most celebrated, sighed in relief when he was resigned. I'm about the only one who threw up the red flag. Now I'm throwing up another red flag - Baker's extension.
Remind us again of all the players we weren't able to re-sign because of Godwin's deal.
Because THAT was your big red flag.
Look forward to your list.
If that amount of money goes to a player who spends most of the time on the shelf that's going to impact what kind of team Licht can put on the field. Assuming Baker is extended, out of the next 100 Bucs games, how many do you think Baker is a healthy starter?
Sans Brady, he’s the best QB this franchise has EVER had. He’s a bonafide top 5 in the league. Pay this man, and keep him a Buc for many many years.
You are right. $20 mil per year is a big chunk of the cap, but it's not the end of the world.
His cap hit is under $13M this year. So, you're right, it's not the end of the world like you said it was going to be.
So, where's that list?
Of course it's all relative to the cap which will presumably expand because of 18 games.
Since the start of the '21 season, the cap has increased nearly $20M every year. And, it's not because of an 18th game.
So, again, where's that list?
A five-year deal for about $300 mil
Just don't pay $300 mil guaranteed to Baker Mayfield.
On top of that other list...
...can you name all the quarterbacks in the league who have a 5-year guaranteed contract?
Looking forward to your list(s).
Sans Brady, he’s the best QB this franchise has EVER had. He’s a bonafide top 5 in the league. Pay this man, and keep him a Buc for many many years.
this right here.
Trask Force makes it sound like we can easily do draft or sign a guy of Baker's caliber lol
Finding a solid QB is hard...why else do you think teams overpay and give a leash to their starting QBs. Baker is top 10 so yeah you need to extend. I just think Trask Force is overrating the amount of years and $ amount for Baker.
So they should let him walk and draft an unknown guy and pray he's good?
