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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Baker balled out. I wonder if the injury was worse than he let on vs Carolina...?

If he plays well again man... his price might get a little too high.

 

But wait….theres more.  Baker strikes me as a team first kinda guy, may not be his style to break a team financially, Brady was like that as well for the vast majority of his career, if not all of it.  You know who I have a feeling would be willing to stay with the club at a discount???  A MLB with a huge chip on his shoulder.  He played great tonight, a gritty disciplined game, little recognition, but we played for his team and the giggles couldn’t do a single meaningful thing, not one….who gaf about a worthless TD.  Anyhoo, LG, C, rg Cmon, mo betta pease, y’all got 5-6 days to moah betta!!!!

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 1:37 am
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Look, some of you need to stop slathering up on Baker's nuts. Dude's married guys. He had 9 games, again NINE, where he was below average in play by QBR. He had 4 games where he was average. He struggled a lot this year and a lot of his stats were garbage time. He had 2 elite games during the season. Even last night his QBR was in the slightly below average range, but that had more to do with a lot of drops. Overall, though, he had one helluva game last night. If he could play like that consistently, nobody, including me, would be calling for a change. I'm hoping, as are the rest of us, that he keeps it going through the playoffs. If he does, we have a legit shot. It was a great game. Let's not sully it with stupid takes. 

 

Oh, and Ramonb, as far as I know, you're new here. Some of us have been here a long time (me since the Buccaneer Magazine days). Please stop telling people what they can post, including in the game day thread. If we can't post or thoughts, what the hell's the forum for. Thank you, and have a nice day. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 7:44 am
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Baker had a great game but this game was about two things 

1. a swarming Bucs defense

2. a lost Philadelphia locker room, coach has got to go

i liked that the Bucs were moving the ball but if you look at bakers 3 touchdown passes, to me it was more about the eagles missed tackling then dimes being thrown (albeit most drops in playoff history I believe.) 

I agree that if the offense plays like that with defense remaining strong, we have a good chance to beat the lions. If anything maybe playing against a lost locker room will give them confidence and they can keep it going 

but as fans we should have nothing negative to say about Bowles baker Canales you name it. A successful season in my books 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 8:14 am
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@bucharbour baker did something Brady never did here last night

3 tds 300 yards in a playoff game.

and that’s playing injured.

what more can baker do to deserve an extension?

small list of QBs to throw for 3 tds & 0 ints in a playoff game for 2 franchises (Brady, Alex smith, Brett Favre)

he protected the ball well all year 

imagine his situation on Cleveland so many new OCs and HCs every year

hes a leader unlike jameis.

im down to give him 3-4 years at this point

Looking like 25-30 mil at this point

still gotta find money for awj Evans and wirfs as well.

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Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 8:40 am
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@bucharbour baker did something Brady never did here last night

3 tds 300 yards in a playoff game.

and that’s playing injured.

what more can baker do to deserve an extension?

small list of QBs to throw for 3 tds & 0 ints in a playoff game for 2 franchises (Brady, Alex smith, Brett Favre)

he protected the ball well all year 

imagine his situation on Cleveland so many new OCs and HCs every year

hes a leader unlike jameis.

im down to give him 3-4 years at this point

Looking like 25-30 mil at this point

still gotta find money for awj Evans and wirfs as well.

plenty of money for AWJ, Evans, Wirfs, David, and Mayfield.

i think Mayfield likely gets a 2 year, $55M deal.  that's probably best for the team.

He will aiming for a $3 year, $80M deal which is also possible.

i would be fine with either.

as for those that still dont think he deserves an extension, probably best to just ignore them.  they wouldn't change their mind if the Bucs won the Superbowl this year.  Would claim it's short sighted and we aren't thinking about 2028, yadda yadda yadda 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 9:10 am
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Posted by: @bucharbour

Look, some of you need to stop slathering up on Baker's nuts. Dude's married guys. He had 9 games, again NINE, where he was below average in play by QBR. He had 4 games where he was average. He struggled a lot this year and a lot of his stats were garbage time. He had 2 elite games during the season. Even last night his QBR was in the slightly below average range, but that had more to do with a lot of drops. Overall, though, he had one helluva game last night. If he could play like that consistently, nobody, including me, would be calling for a change. I'm hoping, as are the rest of us, that he keeps it going through the playoffs. If he does, we have a legit shot. It was a great game. Let's not sully it with stupid takes. 

 

Oh, and Ramonb, as far as I know, you're new here. Some of us have been here a long time (me since the Buccaneer Magazine days). Please stop telling people what they can post, including in the game day thread. If we can't post or thoughts, what the hell's the forum for. Thank you, and have a nice day. 

 

 

No man.  Ive been with PR when it was still subscription based.  I started in the early Dungy years, so...25 years or so.  No not new.  Ive even followed YOU over the years.

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 9:21 am
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Look, some of you need to stop slathering up on Baker's nuts. Dude's married guys. He had 9 games, again NINE, where he was below average in play by QBR. He had 4 games where he was average. He struggled a lot this year and a lot of his stats were garbage time. He had 2 elite games during the season. Even last night his QBR was in the slightly below average range, but that had more to do with a lot of drops. Overall, though, he had one helluva game last night. If he could play like that consistently, nobody, including me, would be calling for a change. I'm hoping, as are the rest of us, that he keeps it going through the playoffs. If he does, we have a legit shot. It was a great game. Let's not sully it with stupid takes. 

 

Oh, and Ramonb, as far as I know, you're new here. Some of us have been here a long time (me since the Buccaneer Magazine days). Please stop telling people what they can post, including in the game day thread. If we can't post or thoughts, what the hell's the forum for. Thank you, and have a nice day KAREN 

 

 

 

 

Oh, you misunderstand.  Please please please share your thoughts, just try and be and be civil about it, does everything require spinning down into shyt, Im sorry If I prefer my way.  Im sorry if thats too much for you... Uhm...Thank you, and have a nice day!!!!

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Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 9:22 am
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Posted by: @ramonb

Posted by: @bucharbour

Look, some of you need to stop slathering up on Baker's nuts. Dude's married guys. He had 9 games, again NINE, where he was below average in play by QBR. He had 4 games where he was average. He struggled a lot this year and a lot of his stats were garbage time. He had 2 elite games during the season. Even last night his QBR was in the slightly below average range, but that had more to do with a lot of drops. Overall, though, he had one helluva game last night. If he could play like that consistently, nobody, including me, would be calling for a change. I'm hoping, as are the rest of us, that he keeps it going through the playoffs. If he does, we have a legit shot. It was a great game. Let's not sully it with stupid takes. 

 

Oh, and Ramonb, as far as I know, you're new here. Some of us have been here a long time (me since the Buccaneer Magazine days). Please stop telling people what they can post, including in the game day thread. If we can't post or thoughts, what the hell's the forum for. Thank you, and have a nice day KAREN 

 

 

 

 

Oh, you misunderstand.  Please please please share your thoughts, just try and be and be civil about it, does everything require spinning down into shyt, Im sorry If I prefer my way.  Im sorry if thats too much for you... Uhm...Thank you, and have a nice day!!!!

Ramon B 1981  GOOO BUCS!!!!

 

you just have to understand when one is immature and on losing side of argument, they tend to name call...."clown, karen, etc"

 

We can lose 31-0 next week at Detroit and this season was a success, Baker earned an extension, and reality is on your side Ramon.

 

Don't bring yourself down to their level.  Stay positive, and let's see what pieces we can add around Baker Mayfield in 2024 to continue our playoff streak!  go Bucs! 

 

 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 9:34 am
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Baker was getting extended the minute the Jaguars game ended. 

Licht was on Twitter essentially saying as much. 

I'd guess they extend him to something in the 2/$55M-$60M or 3/$75M-$80M with an out in Y3.

Prioritize Edge, G, and C in the upcoming draft and FA. 

If Baker reverts back to old Baker, we'd still be building and supplementing a solid roster for the next guy. 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 12:29 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Baker was getting extended the minute the Jaguars game ended. 

Licht was on Twitter essentially saying as much. 

I'd guess they extend him to something in the 2/$55M-$60M or 3/$75M-$80M with an out in Y3.

Prioritize Edge, G, and C in the upcoming draft and FA. 

If Baker reverts back to old Baker, we'd still be building and supplementing a solid roster for the next guy. 

 

excellent post.  Agreed

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 12:48 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

one is immature and on losing side of argument, they tend to name call...."clown, karen, etc"

 

and then many (not all) become a church mouse about their own failed football musings

 

EVERYONE HERE IS WRONG OFTEN, right occasionally too

EVERYONE HERE IS WRONG OFTEN

EVERYONE

 

EVERYONE IS OFTEM WRONG, sometimes right . . .because everyone is guessing AND MOST IMPORTANTLY it is football and every player  . .  EVERY PLAYER. . .  from mayfield to White to Brady to Gronk to Izien and Palmer . . . is an EVOLVING combination of great attributes and weaknesses. 

They ALL ..  everyone of them . .  excel in some circumstances, but struggle in others AND they are all a reflection of NOT JUST THEIR OWN ABILITIES but also the INCONSISTENT abilities of the players next to them. AND their VARIABLE confidence.

Wirfs is hopefully a future HOFer, but give him a bad play by the G next to hima nd he can llok bad too.  Add a bad ankle . .  and even more sore. 

Evans is hopefully a future HOFer . .  but he dropped a dime

Otton has been destroyed on blocks and had drops all season . . last night TOO . . but he also made big catches.

etc, etc, etc

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 12:52 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Prioritize Edge, G, and C in the upcoming draft and FA. 

If Baker reverts back to old Baker, we'd still be building and supplementing a solid roster for the next guy. 

This. Is. Good. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 12:53 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Prioritize Edge, G, and C in the upcoming draft and FA. 

If Baker reverts back to old Baker, we'd still be building and supplementing a solid roster for the next guy. 

This. Is. Good. 

 

Tip of the cap to ya'.

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 12:56 pm
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Th QB draft class is so deep we gotta snag someone. 

Trask clearly not thought of highly, although he could be a solid career backup.

I agree, still draft a QB somewhere 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 1:00 pm
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Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Prioritize Edge, G, and C in the upcoming draft and FA. 

If Baker reverts back to old Baker, we'd still be building and supplementing a solid roster for the next guy. 

This. Is. Good. 

 

 

agreed.

 

Both Mayfield and Bowles can be transitional guys as we build out the deficiencies that DH identifies.

and maybe there is a developmental QB in there too, hopefully Trask but of not the next Trask

 

 
Posted : Jan. 16, 2024 3:00 pm
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