The Bucs need to send Mayfield to Atlanta! My favorite team has always been the team he plays for. I became his #1 fan when I watched him slice up those Dawgs in Atlanta during college. Being from/in the ATL, I would become a Falcons fan and buy season tickets. I have an uncle living in Tampa and he is telling me to relocate.
Back Off Bishhhhhhh!!!! Get Ur own QB and get ur hands off Our Guy🤣 🤣 🤣
Chris Broussard (who has been anti Baker all year until Playoffs finally winning him over)
That ass clown has hated Baker since he was drafted and still thinks Watson is worth a cap hit of $63mil
One bad game and he'll flip again
Chris Broussard (who has been anti Baker all year until Playoffs finally winning him over)
That ass clown has hated Baker since he was drafted and still thinks Watson is worth a cap hit of $63mil
One bad game and he'll flip again
it was nice seeing him in a Baker Mayfield jersey while slobbering all over Baker during the interview…but you’re right
Basically he needs 3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB to be successful QB. What a studLOL
Mayfield was shit on in 2021 by the Browns. Specifically Stefanski.
It was OBJ who divided the locker room and set other players against him.... John Johnson III and Newsome, a rookie DB at the time who has yet to play up to his draft status
A relaxed Baker is a Dangerous Baker and once a couple holes are plugged and another WR with speed added this team will be dangerous every week
Tomorrow I buy a Bucs hat
Basically he needs 3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB to be successful QB. What a studLOL
Mayfield was shit on in 2021 by the Browns. Specifically Stefanski.
It was OBJ who divided the locker room and set other players against him.... John Johnson III and Newsome, a rookie DB at the time who has yet to play up to his draft status
A relaxed Baker is a Dangerous Baker and once a couple holes are plugged and another WR with speed added this team will be dangerous every week
Tomorrow I buy a Bucs hat
dude Brady is the GOAT. Just because he was surrounded with HOF caliber (Evans, brown, Gronk, wirfs) and pro bowl caliber (Godwin, fournette, Jensen, Marpet) weapons doesn’t take away how impressive it was to take the suckaneers to the promise land in one season. Will never forget that and it was unreal. He was in his mid 40s and needed a little help. So pissed gronk didn’t come back in 2022, feel he would have helped a bit
Basically he needs 3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB to be successful QB. What a studLOL
Mayfield was shit on in 2021 by the Browns. Specifically Stefanski.
It was OBJ who divided the locker room and set other players against him.... John Johnson III and Newsome, a rookie DB at the time who has yet to play up to his draft status
A relaxed Baker is a Dangerous Baker and once a couple holes are plugged and another WR with speed added this team will be dangerous every week
Tomorrow I buy a Bucs hat
Yep
Just like every other QB in the NFL
Were you born stupid or have you found the need to work at it... either way you are successful~!
Basically he needs 3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB to be successful QB. What a studLOL
Mayfield was shit on in 2021 by the Browns. Specifically Stefanski.
It was OBJ who divided the locker room and set other players against him.... John Johnson III and Newsome, a rookie DB at the time who has yet to play up to his draft status
A relaxed Baker is a Dangerous Baker and once a couple holes are plugged and another WR with speed added this team will be dangerous every week
Tomorrow I buy a Bucs hat
I mean isnt this more of the norm?
Every other QB in the NFL?Basically he needs 3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB to be successful QB. What a studLOL
Mayfield was shit on in 2021 by the Browns. Specifically Stefanski.
It was OBJ who divided the locker room and set other players against him.... John Johnson III and Newsome, a rookie DB at the time who has yet to play up to his draft status
A relaxed Baker is a Dangerous Baker and once a couple holes are plugged and another WR with speed added this team will be dangerous every week
Tomorrow I buy a Bucs hat
Yep
Just like every other QB in the NFL
Were you born stupid or have you found the need to work at it... either way you are successful~!
Off the top of my head, I don't think Lamar Jackson, Pat Mahomes, Jordan Love, Josh Allen, CJ Stroud, Justin Herbert or Trevor Lawerence fit that criteria.
(Whoops those are franchise QB's my bad)
Were you born a Mayfield nut hugger or did this happen when he moved here last March ? Either way you are successful.
Basically he needs 3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB to be successful QB. What a studLOL
Mayfield was shit on in 2021 by the Browns. Specifically Stefanski.
It was OBJ who divided the locker room and set other players against him.... John Johnson III and Newsome, a rookie DB at the time who has yet to play up to his draft status
A relaxed Baker is a Dangerous Baker and once a couple holes are plugged and another WR with speed added this team will be dangerous every week
Tomorrow I buy a Bucs hat
Baker needs 'better than average,' receivers, OL and running game.
Btw, what QB doesn't? No QB can be successful without a decent OL. Even Mahomes couldn't win without an above-average OL the most notable occurrence was SBLV vs. your Bucs. But you can go back and look at the Chiefs 2019 campaign when several chiefs OLs went down to injury early that season, leading to a string of losses until he got them all back around Week 11. Even then it took several weeks for the OL to gel. ditto the 2021 season. Burrow couldn't get into the playoffs until they shored up the OL.
But Baker doesn't need "elite" OL, receivers and running game to win. Hell, your OL wasn't playing at an elite level in the playoffs this year, and Baker still handily beat GB and came within a possession of tying DET with multiple pass-rushers in his face on every passing snap. Think about how many QBs could have done better than Baker in those situations; it's not a very long list. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Burrow, Stafford, and Cousins (mostly based on his career stats; the tape doesn't fully corroborate that)? After that it gets a little murkier. Maybe Lamar, Herbert, Hurts? Too early imo to include CJ Stroud. And based on Lamar's performance vs. KC last week, he's pretty iffy. And I know that Baker is better than Hurts, having watched both plenty since their OU days.
Baker isn't elite or top-5, granted. But right now he's probably the 5th best QB in the NFC. No worse than 7th. In the NFL he's no worse than 11th? And that's if you believe that Tua, Lamar, Herbert and Lawrence were better QBs than Baker in 2023, which I could argue at length that they weren't.
I mean, are we saying you can't win a SB without a top-5 QB? History seems to indicate quite the opposite.
The norm for average QB's to play well, sure. He's in the Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, and Geno Smith realm in terms of actual ability. It is what it is.Basically he needs 3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB to be successful QB. What a studLOL
Mayfield was shit on in 2021 by the Browns. Specifically Stefanski.
It was OBJ who divided the locker room and set other players against him.... John Johnson III and Newsome, a rookie DB at the time who has yet to play up to his draft status
A relaxed Baker is a Dangerous Baker and once a couple holes are plugged and another WR with speed added this team will be dangerous every week
Tomorrow I buy a Bucs hat
I mean isnt this more of the norm?
Just because he was surrounded with HOF caliber (Evans, brown, Gronk, wirfs) and pro bowl caliber (Godwin, fournette, Jensen, Marpet) weapons doesn’t take away how impressive it was to take the suckaneers to the promise land in one season.
List us the rest of the HOF and Pro Bowl caliber talent that he had in when he nailed off 6 other rings?
He was in his mid 40s and needed a little help.
The dude won a title (nearly multiple) in his 40's before he even came here. He didn't need help. Lol.
Again, this thought process that all quarterbacks need "3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB" to be successful is simply not true (I know you didn't make the claim).
Brady, Mahomes, Stafford are just recent examples.
I think he's middle of the pack in the NFL. Lamar, Tua, Herbert, Burrow and Lawrence are absolutely better than Mayfield. I'm not doing the who had a better year song and dance. Mayfield statistically had a better year than Mahomes, so he must be better right? This where context is key and where people have a hard time grasping.Basically he needs 3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB to be successful QB. What a studLOL
Mayfield was shit on in 2021 by the Browns. Specifically Stefanski.
It was OBJ who divided the locker room and set other players against him.... John Johnson III and Newsome, a rookie DB at the time who has yet to play up to his draft status
A relaxed Baker is a Dangerous Baker and once a couple holes are plugged and another WR with speed added this team will be dangerous every week
Tomorrow I buy a Bucs hat
Baker needs 'better than average,' receivers, OL and running game.
Btw, what QB doesn't? No QB can be successful without a decent OL. Even Mahomes couldn't win without an above-average OL the most notable occurrence was SBLV vs. your Bucs. But you can go back and look at the Chiefs 2019 campaign when several chiefs OLs went down to injury early that season, leading to a string of losses until he got them all back around Week 11. Even then it took several weeks for the OL to gel. ditto the 2021 season. Burrow couldn't get into the playoffs until they shored up the OL.
But Baker doesn't need "elite" OL, receivers and running game to win. Hell, your OL wasn't playing at an elite level in the playoffs this year, and Baker still handily beat GB and came within a possession of tying DET with multiple pass-rushers in his face on every passing snap. Think about how many QBs could have done better than Baker in those situations; it's not a very long list. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Burrow, Stafford, and Cousins (mostly based on his career stats; the tape doesn't fully corroborate that)? After that it gets a little murkier. Maybe Lamar, Herbert, Hurts? Too early imo to include CJ Stroud. And based on Lamar's performance vs. KC last week, he's pretty iffy. And I know that Baker is better than Hurts, having watched both plenty since their OU days.
Baker isn't elite or top-5, granted. But right now he's probably the 5th best QB in the NFC. No worse than 7th. In the NFL he's no worse than 11th? And that's if you believe that Tua, Lamar, Herbert and Lawrence were better QBs than Baker in 2023, which I could argue at length that they weren't.
I mean, are we saying you can't win a SB without a top-5 QB? History seems to indicate quite the opposite.
Yes, I don't think Mayfield will win a SB here, or ever. It requires consistent high level QBing for 4 games. Mayfield biggest problem has been consistency in his career and I don't think that will change.
He's in the Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, and Geno Smith realm in terms of actual ability. It is what it is.
in the other thread fewa are taking issue with this (in bold)
I dont think Mayfield is great, but I think hes playing better than his early career, which kind of skews things. Not sure how he will play with a big contract, but last year he did well and we didnt have (and dont have) any real way to get an elite QB at the moment (aside from some bold move in the draft, maybe)
People tend the carry job Brady did in 2021. After Godwin went down, and AB quit on the team we basically had Evans, an injured Gronk, and a bunch of JAG's with no run game. He was one drive away from leading us to the NFCCG to face the Niners. But, Bowles blitzing Stafford sealed our fate. Not to mention the multiple carry jobs Brady has done in the past, so he's completely exempt from this convo.Just because he was surrounded with HOF caliber (Evans, brown, Gronk, wirfs) and pro bowl caliber (Godwin, fournette, Jensen, Marpet) weapons doesn’t take away how impressive it was to take the suckaneers to the promise land in one season.
List us the rest of the HOF and Pro Bowl caliber talent that he had in when he nailed off 6 other rings?
He was in his mid 40s and needed a little help.
The dude won a title (nearly multiple) in his 40's before he even came here. He didn't need help. Lol.
Again, this thought process that all quarterbacks need "3 good WRs, a good OL, and a good RB" to be successful is simply not true (I know you didn't make the claim).
Brady, Mahomes, Stafford are just recent examples.
Not sure why people can't accept the truth. Nothing wrong with having a QB in that tier and remaining competitive. Hell, the Chiefs did that with Alex Smith for years until they lucked up with Mahomes. Just don't expect me to be doing victory laps and acting like he is the long term answer 10 years from now.He's in the Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, and Geno Smith realm in terms of actual ability. It is what it is.
in the other thread fewa are taking issue with this (in bold)
I dont think Mayfield is great, but I think hes playing better than his early career, which kind of skews things. Not sure how he will play with a big contract, but last year he did well and we didnt have (and dont have) any real way to get an elite QB at the moment (aside from some bold move in the draft, maybe)
