That was an embarrassing loss in the Super Bowl…did they ever get us back for that?
they handled us pretty easily, raven-esque type ass whooping, in Brady’s last year
the chiefs are a frustrating team. Their QB has more INTs than TDs and they are 7-0
That was an embarrassing loss in the Super Bowl…did they ever get us back for that?
They still have players on their roster that can't forget 31-9. Their SB run would be even more historic if they won that game. That should be enough for KC to want to run up a big score vs a toothless defense.
That was an embarrassing loss in the Super Bowl…did they ever get us back for that?
they handled us pretty easily, raven-esque type ass whooping, in Brady’s last year
yep, but their memory is long!
the chiefs are a frustrating team. Their QB has more INTs than TDs and they are 7-0
He’s had his own injury issues with receivers. They’ve fixed some of that… but that defense is MUCH better than the Ravens D - at all levels, and especially the front 4 & secondary - their DC shut down Brock Bowers. Not looking for much from our “secret weapon” Cade Otton…
If we’d played them earlier in the season, when we had Mike & Chris, would have been a great game.
KC may win big obviously, but I don't think they have any extra motivation for this game because of past history with the Bucs. They've won 14 in a row and are worried about winning another Superbowl, not revenge for past years. As for running up the score, I doubt they'll put their WRs in harm's way if the game is out of reach especially Hopkins and Kelce.That was an embarrassing loss in the Super Bowl…did they ever get us back for that?
They still have players on their roster that can't forget 31-9. Their SB run would be even more historic if they won that game. That should be enough for KC to want to run up a big score vs a toothless defense.
That was an embarrassing loss in the Super Bowl…did they ever get us back for that?
They still have players on their roster that can't forget 31-9. Their SB run would be even more historic if they won that game. That should be enough for KC to want to run up a big score vs a toothless defense.
I mean our run was pretty remarkable -
beat the saints in their house in Bree’s last game who owned us in regular season
beat the MVP and kings of the NFC in their house in greenbay, knocking out rodgers
play in our home stadium for the superbowl and become first team to win SB doing so, taking out the dynasty chiefs and guy chasing Brady for GOAT
That was an embarrassing loss in the Super Bowl…did they ever get us back for that?
they handled us pretty easily, raven-esque type ass whooping, in Brady’s last year
the chiefs are a frustrating team. Their QB has more INTs than TDs and they are 7-0
top run defense, I think? beaten some good teams
@donkey_hunter $150 with $287 payout
You can bet the Chiefs and get almost 2 to 1?
Do you not know how football betting works either?
FFS…
@donkey_hunter $150 with $287 payout
Okay.
I mean, you said a “nice haul of cash”.
So, I thought you were throwing down multiple units on multiple things since this was such a no-brainer.
My bad.
Chiefs have been great vs. the run, obviously. Most of us can't figure out exactly how, since it's essentially the same exact group we had last season, and they weren't very good vs. the run in 2023.
Nick Bolton is the QB of the front-7, and our best run defender. Running up the middle with him out there is not going to work well. Misdirection might work to some degree. However, Bolton is not good in coverage, as he lacks both speed and lateral agility. Otton should be able to take advantage of him fairly consistently. As a unit, none of the KC LBs are particularly good in coverage, but Tranquill is probably our best at that position.
Justin Reid is the QB of the backfield. he's good vs. the run and any coverage where he can play running downhill, such as screens or stick routes, etc. Conversely, he's giving up a 116.2 passer Rating and a 85% completion rate when he has to try and cover downfield. Doesn't help that he's not very fast. Those numbers are pretty average over his career, btw. He's never been good in coverage when he has to chase.
Joshua Williams has been the CB2 opposite Trent McDuffie most of the time, though he might get replaced, as he's been giving up a 75% completion rate and nearly a 130 PR this season. Everyone behind him is about the same or worse so far.
If I were Coen, those are the three I would gameplan to attack the most. I would avoid throwing in McDuffie's direction and avoid running at Bolton.
The addition of DHop should mean KC struggles less vs. zone and open up more opportunities for Travis. And of course you can't play zone vs. Travis. So Bowles shouldn't be planning on playing much zone on Monday. DHop only saw three targets on Sunday, and based on how much Andy has been targeting Worthy, I'm not sure if DHop will see more than 4-5 targets Monday night.
The efficiency of the Chief's running game got a boost from the addition of Kareem Hunt over the last 4 games, but it has also seen that production steadily decline from over 5yds/carry when Hunt first became RB1, to less than 3yds/carry in Sunday's contest against the Raiders. They're overusing him. Don't really understand why. Best guess is that he's the best pass-pro RB we have.
It'll be interesting to see if Andy continues to throw 8+ targets at Worthy. Over the last two games Worthy has seen 16 targets, for 7 catches, 56 yds. Seems like a waste of some targets, but what do I know? The other starting WRs, Justin Watson and Mecole Hardman can't absorb more than a handful of targets apiece. After that, Noah Gray has been the Chiefs' top target. I think he's decent; might be what TB hopes Otton could be soon.
In case no one's noticed, the Chiefs have flipped the script on their offense. They used to throw over 65% of the time, now they're running it about that much. Since we don't have a true alpha RB, it's pretty much 1990s football; 3 yds and a cloud of dust, 35+ times a game. TB will have to be able to stop the run, but no Chiefs RB has big play capability; the longest run by a KC RB in 2024 was by Kareem Hunt for 13 yds. Have to put KC is passing situations on 3rd down and capitalize when they do by getting them off the field.
Another point that seems pretty obvious: Mahomes has thrown 9 INTs, and while you can excuse maybe 4-5 of them, like that tipped pass last Sunday, at least that many have been of his own making. If he does throw an INT vs. TB, and it seems likely that he will throw at least one, it's absolutely imperative that the Bucs score points off of it.
Last but certainly not least, Wayna Morris at LT has not been great. Not SKule bad, but not much better either. Taylor's been about his career average, but he's also had some pretty bad snaps. Bowles needs to find ways to attack both OTs, but Morris in particular. He's been so erratic that Pat has been bolting as soon as he feels the slightest pressure from the left side, throwing off his timing and eliminating the entire left side of the field at times. You can trace back many if not most of KC's 3-and-outs to Morris getting beat early and Pat bolting away from pressure early.
Goes without saying that TB is going to have a huge hill to climb trying to beat KC. But not because KC is going to score a lot of points. They aren't built to do that anymore. I figure KC will score around 24-30 points assuming Bowles defense plays reasonably well. Trick is to take advantage of every KC mistake and just not make any big mistakes on TB's side of the ball. The Chiefs have won 24 games in a row by one score, or something like that, and they're giving up a little less than 20 pts/gm, so you can do the math. They take advantage of every mistake the opposition makes by scoring some kind of points, and they just don't make very many game-changing mistakes.
So White can't fumble the ball. McMillan/Shepard/Miller/Palmer have to catch balls that hit them in the hands. Baker can't throw multiple INTs, but at the same time can't turtle up. He has to find a way to maximize risk vs. reward. Just can't have turnovers and drops by the other skill players to have a legit chance. KC might be having trouble moving the ball 60+ yds to score a TD, but they're near the top of the league if you give them a short field.
Always had this marked down as a L for TB, but the lack of legit WRs and the poor play of the LT has made KC vulnerable to a point. They can't stage a big comeback in 2024; they just don't have the weapons for big plays. If TB can get a lead in the 2nd half, they have a chance to steal this one.
@donkey_hunter $150 with $287 payout
You can bet the Chiefs and get almost 2 to 1?
I don't think you can from the default lines. But you could bet an alternate spread. KC-16.5 gives you a return of +200 (per FD), for example.
@donkey_hunter $150 with $287 payout
You can bet the Chiefs and get almost 2 to 1?
I don't think you can from the default lines. But you could bet an alternate spread. KC-16.5 gives you a return of +200 (per FD), for example.
You can go on Hard Rock right now and get that payout on the 9.5 line.
$300 to win $573
@donkey_hunter $150 with $287 payout
You can bet the Chiefs and get almost 2 to 1?
I don't think you can from the default lines. But you could bet an alternate spread. KC-16.5 gives you a return of +200 (per FD), for example.
You can go on Hard Rock right now and get that payout on the 9.5 line.
$300 to win $573
Hmm. Just d/ld the HRB app; -9.5 KC gives a -110 return, same as FD.
@donkey_hunter $150 with $287 payout
You can bet the Chiefs and get almost 2 to 1?
Do you not know how football betting works either?
FFS…
does it work like averages?
(Biggs you’re trying way too hard. Have a Snickers)
