A joke that he's not first ballot. Not sure what more he should have done as a hc.
Is Brady not going to be a first ballot too by this logic?
And, this is the corner that Polian and the rest of his whiny little bitch crew put themselves in:
1. Keep Brady from being a 1st ballot HoF
2. Or, Brady does get in as 1st ballot, and show the hypocrisy of it all
Again, this absolutely tarnishes the reputation of the HoF.
Those two options mean?
Talking about it again when Brady is up.
the NFL is going to hate that lol
Is Brady not going to be a first ballot too by this logic?
And, this is the corner that Polian and the rest of his whiny little bitch crew put themselves in:
1. Keep Brady from being a 1st ballot HoF
2. Or, Brady does get in as 1st ballot, and show the hypocrisy of it all
Again, this absolutely tarnishes the reputation of the HoF.
I read something earlier from a HOF voter explaining the possible procedural reasons Belichick was kept out. A lot of them made some sense. I wish I could find it again to post, but I can't remember who the guy was. Most of them had nothing to do with his qualifications for being in HOF. Of course, Belichick should have been a first ballot HOF'er - and this guy agreed.
One thing I do remember was he pointed out that Head Coaches are eligible after one year, unlike players. Another one was voters can only vote for a certain number of candidates - meaning they can't vote for everyone they think should be in. He posited that some voters may have voted for guys who were in their last year of eligibility in lieu of Belichick, figuring Belichick was a sure-thing. I guess what I'm saying is a lot of the reasons he cited won't affect players like Tom Brady.
I'll keep looking for that post - it was on X - because it was pretty good and puts another perspective on this. He also said he expects changes in that procedural process because of this.
Jack Baer Yahoo
Five HCs were first ballot HOF: Hallas, Lambeau, Landry, Noll, and Shula. Of course Belichick belongs with those guys. There's no excuse for it. I don't care what excuses they want to dig up. All that happens is it smears the reputation of the HOF, not of Belichick. It's a travesty.
Five HCs were first ballot HOF: Hallas, Lambeau, Landry, Noll, and Shula. Of course Belichick belongs with those guys. There's no excuse for it. I don't care what excuses they want to dig up. All that happens is it smears the reputation of the HOF, not of Belichick. It's a travesty.
genuinely asking if any of those coaches had cheating controversies? Or even just any type of scandal?
I think the way the vote works could have been the issue. I doubt it's the same now as then
Five HCs were first ballot HOF: Hallas, Lambeau, Landry, Noll, and Shula. Of course Belichick belongs with those guys. There's no excuse for it. I don't care what excuses they want to dig up. All that happens is it smears the reputation of the HOF, not of Belichick. It's a travesty.
genuinely asking if any of those coaches had cheating controversies? Or even just any type of scandal?
I think the way the vote works could have been the issue. I doubt it's the same now as then
Coach Total Championships (incl. Super Bowls) Teams
George Halas 6 Decatur/Chicago Staleys/Bears
Curly Lambeau 6 Green Bay Packers
Bill Belichick 6 New England Patriots
Vince Lombardi 5 Green Bay Packers
Chuck Noll 4 Pittsburgh Steelers
Paul Brown 4 (7 including AAFC titles) Cleveland Browns
The way the vote works? Dude. Come on. There is no way to explain it away. No valid excuses. It's a total disgrace. A slap in the face of all NFL- fans included. The HOF put out a statement about how they can eliminate voters who don't take their job seriously. They need to do more than that. They need to apologize profusely to the entire NFL world and revote if possible.
Five HCs were first ballot HOF: Hallas, Lambeau, Landry, Noll, and Shula. Of course Belichick belongs with those guys. There's no excuse for it. I don't care what excuses they want to dig up. All that happens is it smears the reputation of the HOF, not of Belichick. It's a travesty.
genuinely asking if any of those coaches had cheating controversies? Or even just any type of scandal?
I think the way the vote works could have been the issue. I doubt it's the same now as then
Coach Total Championships (incl. Super Bowls) Teams
George Halas 6 Decatur/Chicago Staleys/Bears
Curly Lambeau 6 Green Bay Packers
Bill Belichick 6 New England Patriots
Vince Lombardi 5 Green Bay Packers
Chuck Noll 4 Pittsburgh Steelers
Paul Brown 4 (7 including AAFC titles) Cleveland Browns
The way the vote works? Dude. Come on. There is no way to explain it away. No valid excuses. It's a total disgrace. A slap in the face of all NFL- fans included. The HOF put out a statement about how they can eliminate voters who don't take their job seriously. They need to do more than that. They need to apologize profusely to the entire NFL world and revote if possible.
there are multiple ways to explain it. I asked you about one of them, which was whether your list had any similar scandals.
Spygate was a LEGIT cheating scandal with the conduct admitted and COVERING YEARS and clearly anti.-competitive. Thats why there were so many questions about Goodell's handling of it. In fact, all it takes is Google to find Belicheck's crazy quote. Here it is:
"my interpretation was that you can't utilize anything to assist you during that game. What our camera guys do is clearly not allowed to be used during the game and has never been used during that game that it was shot."
Those careful qualifications (bold) in a prepared statement mean the videotaping was used for future games.
You can't be the guy in charge of a nearly decade long rule violation and NOT have it have any impact on something like the HOF, right?
I mean, if you just read about the way the votes are tabulated thats actually another possibility, but I think its more likely ESPECIALLY because of the way he interacted with the press . . . that 2 cheating scandals and that relationship with the press (the voters). .. makes it an obvious possibility. Getting the last word, so to speak
The way the vote works?
Did you read the article? Do you know how the vote actually worked?
maybe do that and then come back
Is Brady not going to be a first ballot too by this logic?
And, this is the corner that Polian and the rest of his whiny little bitch crew put themselves in:
1. Keep Brady from being a 1st ballot HoF
2. Or, Brady does get in as 1st ballot, and show the hypocrisy of it all
Again, this absolutely tarnishes the reputation of the HoF.
I read something earlier from a HOF voter explaining the possible procedural reasons Belichick was kept out. A lot of them made some sense. I wish I could find it again to post, but I can't remember who the guy was. Most of them had nothing to do with his qualifications for being in HOF. Of course, Belichick should have been a first ballot HOF'er - and this guy agreed.
One thing I do remember was he pointed out that Head Coaches are eligible after one year, unlike players. Another one was voters can only vote for a certain number of candidates - meaning they can't vote for everyone they think should be in. He posited that some voters may have voted for guys who were in their last year of eligibility in lieu of Belichick, figuring Belichick was a sure-thing. I guess what I'm saying is a lot of the reasons he cited won't affect players like Tom Brady.
I'll keep looking for that post - it was on X - because it was pretty good and puts another perspective on this. He also said he expects changes in that procedural process because of this.
Yeah. If you find the tweet, let me know (or post the content).
Regardless, if Bill isn't a 1st ballot HoF'er; then no other coach is either.
Fucking joke.
Is Brady not going to be a first ballot too by this logic?
And, this is the corner that Polian and the rest of his whiny little bitch crew put themselves in:
1. Keep Brady from being a 1st ballot HoF
2. Or, Brady does get in as 1st ballot, and show the hypocrisy of it all
Again, this absolutely tarnishes the reputation of the HoF.
I read something earlier from a HOF voter explaining the possible procedural reasons Belichick was kept out. A lot of them made some sense. I wish I could find it again to post, but I can't remember who the guy was. Most of them had nothing to do with his qualifications for being in HOF. Of course, Belichick should have been a first ballot HOF'er - and this guy agreed.
One thing I do remember was he pointed out that Head Coaches are eligible after one year, unlike players. Another one was voters can only vote for a certain number of candidates - meaning they can't vote for everyone they think should be in. He posited that some voters may have voted for guys who were in their last year of eligibility in lieu of Belichick, figuring Belichick was a sure-thing. I guess what I'm saying is a lot of the reasons he cited won't affect players like Tom Brady.
I'll keep looking for that post - it was on X - because it was pretty good and puts another perspective on this. He also said he expects changes in that procedural process because of this.
Yeah. If you find the tweet, let me know (or post the content).
Regardless, if Bill isn't a 1st ballot HoF'er; then no other coach is either.
Fucking joke.
Its Mike Sando from the Athletic. Hes an actual voter and thought Belichick was a "slam dunk." Just as Biggs says he lays out the "how"
sando
"Whatever the reasoning, I see this outlier result as a reflection of the new voting rules, not as a reflection of Belichick. "
not sure if that is paywall
Is Brady not going to be a first ballot too by this logic?
And, this is the corner that Polian and the rest of his whiny little bitch crew put themselves in:
1. Keep Brady from being a 1st ballot HoF
2. Or, Brady does get in as 1st ballot, and show the hypocrisy of it all
Again, this absolutely tarnishes the reputation of the HoF.
I read something earlier from a HOF voter explaining the possible procedural reasons Belichick was kept out. A lot of them made some sense. I wish I could find it again to post, but I can't remember who the guy was. Most of them had nothing to do with his qualifications for being in HOF. Of course, Belichick should have been a first ballot HOF'er - and this guy agreed.
One thing I do remember was he pointed out that Head Coaches are eligible after one year, unlike players. Another one was voters can only vote for a certain number of candidates - meaning they can't vote for everyone they think should be in. He posited that some voters may have voted for guys who were in their last year of eligibility in lieu of Belichick, figuring Belichick was a sure-thing. I guess what I'm saying is a lot of the reasons he cited won't affect players like Tom Brady.
I'll keep looking for that post - it was on X - because it was pretty good and puts another perspective on this. He also said he expects changes in that procedural process because of this.
Yeah. If you find the tweet, let me know (or post the content).
Regardless, if Bill isn't a 1st ballot HoF'er; then no other coach is either.
Fucking joke.
https://x.com/SandoNFL/status/2016296455305392315
Is Brady not going to be a first ballot too by this logic?
And, this is the corner that Polian and the rest of his whiny little bitch crew put themselves in:
1. Keep Brady from being a 1st ballot HoF
2. Or, Brady does get in as 1st ballot, and show the hypocrisy of it all
Again, this absolutely tarnishes the reputation of the HoF.
I read something earlier from a HOF voter explaining the possible procedural reasons Belichick was kept out. A lot of them made some sense. I wish I could find it again to post, but I can't remember who the guy was. Most of them had nothing to do with his qualifications for being in HOF. Of course, Belichick should have been a first ballot HOF'er - and this guy agreed.
One thing I do remember was he pointed out that Head Coaches are eligible after one year, unlike players. Another one was voters can only vote for a certain number of candidates - meaning they can't vote for everyone they think should be in. He posited that some voters may have voted for guys who were in their last year of eligibility in lieu of Belichick, figuring Belichick was a sure-thing. I guess what I'm saying is a lot of the reasons he cited won't affect players like Tom Brady.
I'll keep looking for that post - it was on X - because it was pretty good and puts another perspective on this. He also said he expects changes in that procedural process because of this.
Yeah. If you find the tweet, let me know (or post the content).
Regardless, if Bill isn't a 1st ballot HoF'er; then no other coach is either.
Fucking joke.
https://x.com/SandoNFL/status/2016296455305392315
Tip of the hat, sir.
Appreciate it.