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Posted by: @detrimental

If the outcome goes the other way, I'd hate to say it but I'd have to blame the kicker.

He has been so good and reliable and then . . missed extra point.

 

Its why they play the games, so the saying goes.


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 11:37 am
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Another thing was the use of time-outs I think whoever helping him did a good job.

The only thing I noticed on the timeouts was one of them took too long to call. [b]Seven seconds[/b] ticked off the clock before Bowles called the TO. Not sure if that was function of him hesitating and being indecisive or just the logistics of the new guy helping not being as efficient as it should be.

It ended up not mattering, but it could have.

 

Very true. Didn't realize it was that many seconds but good observation. Definitely have to get those time outs in faster.

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 11:47 am
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Was impressed he didn't punt on that 4th down play.

Ironically, according to ESPNAnalytics Morris was more conservative than Bowles, even though Morris is sort of viewed as an aggressive, go for it on 4th coach.

https://espnanalytics.com/decision-game?id=3

Probably says something about the limitations of "analytics." 

 

I thought Bowles made the right choice on our choice


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Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 11:53 am
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I'd consider this game a step in the right direction for Bowles because:

1.) he was more aggressive 

2.) he used time outs

3.) outside of the putrid first drive and the last two drives I thought the defense played extremely well despite Dennis whiffing 4 of 5 times

4.) team stayed calm and focused despite a slow start 

So kudos to Bowles in that regard but I swear to God every fucking game he does something bonehead like the time out on the catch to Tez or waiting 7 seconds to call a time out. 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 1:09 pm
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the time out on the catch to Tez or waiting 7 seconds to call a time out. 

Just curious about these two.

 

The throw to Tez was a no catch getting overturned, right? It was a tie game 3rd quarter and something like 2nd and 8 so the quick snap was not the right move even though they started with that.  The goal is best chance to make the 1st down so regroup etc?

Is this also the "7 second" timeout?


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 2:19 pm
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Loved the Bowles speech in the locker room after the game......yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!

 

Just saw that.  Good to see.

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 2:41 pm
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the time out on the catch to Tez or waiting 7 seconds to call a time out. 

Just curious about these two.

 

The throw to Tez was a no catch getting overturned, right? It was a tie game 3rd quarter and something like 2nd and 8 so the quick snap was not the right move even though they started with that.  The goal is best chance to make the 1st down so regroup etc?

Is this also the "7 second" timeout?

It was third and 3 or 4. It only got overturned because we didn't go fast. We called a time out with like 18 seconds on the play clock. I'd say 3rd and 3 is better than third and 8... Hell I'd say 4th and 2 is better than third and 8 (long) 

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 3:00 pm
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the time out on the catch to Tez or waiting 7 seconds to call a time out. 

Just curious about these two.

 

The throw to Tez was a no catch getting overturned, right? It was a tie game 3rd quarter and something like 2nd and 8 so the quick snap was not the right move even though they started with that.  The goal is best chance to make the 1st down so regroup etc?

Is this also the "7 second" timeout?

It was third and 3 or 4. It only got overturned because we didn't go fast. We called a time out with like 18 seconds on the play clock. I'd say 3rd and 3 is better than third and 8... Hell I'd say 4th and 2 is better than third and 8 (long) 

 

 

I would have to go back and look but this is whats on the drive chart.  

 

Pass Incomplete
 
2nd & 8 at ATL 28
12:32 3rd Shotgun — B.Mayfield pass short left to T.Johnson pushed ob at ATL 23 for 5 yards. Atlanta challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) B.Mayfield pass incomplete short left to T.Johnson.
Timeout
 
12:29 3rd — Timeout #1 by TB at 12:29.
2 Yard Pass
 
3rd & 8 at ATL 28
 
 
My recollection is that Tex bobbles the ball going out, so obvious that Mayfield goes into quick snap mode BUT the problem with that is you need the next play to be successful. The bobble is not on 1st down.
 
I assume (all I can do) is that everyone anticipates the challenge and we do not end up doing the quick snap, which should mean the coaches - including Grizz - are communicating with Mayfield
 
MY MEMORY COULD BE FLAWED THOUGH

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 3:55 pm
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Listen, we should all be pumped after a huge week 1 divisional road win with the one team that has a chance to unseat us as NFC South Champs.  We are superbowl bound type energy.

That being said, i'd like to see consistency.  Let's pump the breaks on any accolades except for Edbuka who was awesome in his first game.  He deserves his flowers as does Baker being clutch. But as for Bowles, it will be how this team responds to familiar test:

it's not like we haven't seen 3-1 starts by this same team/coach be squandered before by losing streaks the last 2 seasons only to end up with mediocre 9,10 win seasons

TEST 1 - Can they win a toss up game in prime time?  THIS WEEK against Houston. 

TEST 2- The next test would be week 3, can they win a game they ultimately should easily win and not have a let down game.

TEST 3 -then, the next test would be weeks 4 through 7 where we face all tough opponents in Philly, Seattle, San Fran, and Detroit.  Can we at least go 2-2 in that span or do we see another losing streak

TEST 4 - would be how we measure up against a team like Buffalo in Buffalo.  

TEST 5 - and the final regular season test would be one we passed the last 2 years, can we win the games we should win in the final 6 games (ARZ, NO, ATL, CAR X2, MIA); at least 5-1 in that span but should be 6-0. 

this team should be at least an 11 win team and maybe do some damage in playoffs.  but i am happy with week 1 at least but not ready to call Bowles extension a success just yet. 

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 3:58 pm
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Listen, we should all be pumped after a huge week 1 divisional road win with the one team that has a chance to unseat us as NFC South Champs

Get over yourself.  The damn 7 second timeout by Bowles is THE STORY!!!

Lol, couldn't resist.

 

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 4:13 pm
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the time out on the catch to Tez or waiting 7 seconds to call a time out. 

Just curious about these two.

 

The throw to Tez was a no catch getting overturned, right? It was a tie game 3rd quarter and something like 2nd and 8 so the quick snap was not the right move even though they started with that.  The goal is best chance to make the 1st down so regroup etc?

Is this also the "7 second" timeout?

It was third and 3 or 4. It only got overturned because we didn't go fast. We called a time out with like 18 seconds on the play clock. I'd say 3rd and 3 is better than third and 8... Hell I'd say 4th and 2 is better than third and 8 (long) 

 

 

I would have to go back and look but this is whats on the drive chart.  

 

Pass Incomplete
 
2nd & 8 at ATL 28
12:32 3rd Shotgun — B.Mayfield pass short left to T.Johnson pushed ob at ATL 23 for 5 yards. Atlanta challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) B.Mayfield pass incomplete short left to T.Johnson.
Timeout
 
12:29 3rd — Timeout #1 by TB at 12:29.
2 Yard Pass
 
3rd & 8 at ATL 28
 
 
My recollection is that Tex bobbles the ball going out, so obvious that Mayfield goes into quick snap mode BUT the problem with that is you need the next play to be successful. The bobble is not on 1st down.
 
I assume (all I can do) is that everyone anticipates the challenge and we do not end up doing the quick snap, which should mean the coaches - including Grizz - are communicating with Mayfield
 
MY MEMORY COULD BE FLAWED THOUGH

 

It was 3rd and 3... 5 yard gain on 2nd and 8. Then third and 8 after reversed 

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 5:26 pm
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I don’t disagree with @badabingbucs TEST’s - those tests can show us what to expect when injuries take unexpected tolls, later in the season.

We should get Tristan back by the 3rd(ish) game. But not sure if he will be in game shape until a bit later, but Tristan at somewhat less than 100% is a LOT better than the majority of the league. 

And Baker was rough for most of the game, but agree that he dialed up a few great passes in clutch situations. While he owned up to them, gotta think he was also impacted by the inconsistent line play (if nothing, the psychological impact of not having that same level of trust with Tristan covering his blind side), but Barton playing left tackle kinda blew me away…yeah, he struggled, but he did pretty good for a guy with arms too short to play LOT in the NFL.

Emeka was BAD, and I mean that in good way…but Mike made that BAD man. Texans will looking to pop that rookie in the mouth to introduce him to the NFL - if they try it - they’re going to regret it. Emeka has been in those situations before and focusing on him is going to free up Mike, and maybe Otten plays a role in this next game too.

I think maybe the delay that led to a reversal had more to do with the new game manager/analytics. It was the first game and I was kinda impressed that Bowles went for it on 4th & went for the TD rather than settling for the FG. We’ll see how that goes if the defense improves.

We got a win, we got stuff to work on, and we still have some rust to knock off.

BUT, even though it’s just the 1st game, that win, tho!


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Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 5:59 pm
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the time out on the catch to Tez or waiting 7 seconds to call a time out. 

Just curious about these two.

 

The throw to Tez was a no catch getting overturned, right? It was a tie game 3rd quarter and something like 2nd and 8 so the quick snap was not the right move even though they started with that.  The goal is best chance to make the 1st down so regroup etc?

Is this also the "7 second" timeout?

It was third and 3 or 4. It only got overturned because we didn't go fast. We called a time out with like 18 seconds on the play clock. I'd say 3rd and 3 is better than third and 8... Hell I'd say 4th and 2 is better than third and 8 (long) 

 

 

I would have to go back and look but this is whats on the drive chart.  

 

Pass Incomplete
 
2nd & 8 at ATL 28
12:32 3rd Shotgun — B.Mayfield pass short left to T.Johnson pushed ob at ATL 23 for 5 yards. Atlanta challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) B.Mayfield pass incomplete short left to T.Johnson.
Timeout
 
12:29 3rd — Timeout #1 by TB at 12:29.
2 Yard Pass
 
3rd & 8 at ATL 28
 
 
My recollection is that Tex bobbles the ball going out, so obvious that Mayfield goes into quick snap mode BUT the problem with that is you need the next play to be successful. The bobble is not on 1st down.
 
I assume (all I can do) is that everyone anticipates the challenge and we do not end up doing the quick snap, which should mean the coaches - including Grizz - are communicating with Mayfield
 
MY MEMORY COULD BE FLAWED THOUGH

 

It was 3rd and 3... 5 yard gain on 2nd and 8. Then third and 8 after reversed 

 

 

ah okay

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 6:20 pm
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the time out on the catch to Tez or waiting 7 seconds to call a time out. 

Just curious about these two.

 

The throw to Tez was a no catch getting overturned, right? It was a tie game 3rd quarter and something like 2nd and 8 so the quick snap was not the right move even though they started with that.  The goal is best chance to make the 1st down so regroup etc?

Is this also the "7 second" timeout?

It was third and 3 or 4. It only got overturned because we didn't go fast. We called a time out with like 18 seconds on the play clock. I'd say 3rd and 3 is better than third and 8... Hell I'd say 4th and 2 is better than third and 8 (long) 

 

 

I would have to go back and look but this is whats on the drive chart.  

 

Pass Incomplete
 
2nd & 8 at ATL 28
12:32 3rd Shotgun — B.Mayfield pass short left to T.Johnson pushed ob at ATL 23 for 5 yards. Atlanta challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) B.Mayfield pass incomplete short left to T.Johnson.
Timeout
 
12:29 3rd — Timeout #1 by TB at 12:29.
2 Yard Pass
 
3rd & 8 at ATL 28
 
 
My recollection is that Tex bobbles the ball going out, so obvious that Mayfield goes into quick snap mode BUT the problem with that is you need the next play to be successful. The bobble is not on 1st down.
 
I assume (all I can do) is that everyone anticipates the challenge and we do not end up doing the quick snap, which should mean the coaches - including Grizz - are communicating with Mayfield
 
MY MEMORY COULD BE FLAWED THOUGH

 

It was 3rd and 3... 5 yard gain on 2nd and 8. Then third and 8 after reversed 

 

The math is appreciated by those that need to be spoon-fed.

It was poor game-management, for sure.

 


 
Posted : Sep. 9, 2025 7:08 pm
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The math is appreciated by those that WHO need to be spoon-fed.

 

WHAT WERE "YOUR" TOEFL SCORES?

Were they objectively good?

 


 
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