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Posted by: @firebowles2023

It's just the facts

It's not the facts it's the argument I am taking issue with.  Just because a division had better record does not mean NFC South division games are easier lol. 

it is a FACT that the Saints quit in our first game and then came out strong in the last game ... because they had a chance to be a spoiler 

 
Posted : Jul. 2, 2025 6:05 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

We weren't better than the Lions.

We were twice.

We beat them in their place and then our playoff defense of the Commanders was BETTER. But, what happened to the best team wins? It comes with an * when Bowles is involved? 

And by the way, ... the way we got that first victory right? Bowles and Campbell head to head ... that special teams play ...

 

woah!

 
Posted : Jul. 2, 2025 6:10 pm
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The argument about a weak division was defeated during several years of runs by the Patriots.

It’s a tired argument. We hung with several elite teams last season, as well as defeating some, despite some periods with subpar defensive talent (and offensive talent for some stretches).

”Luck” is part of it, whether it’s a beneficial schedule, or being able to stay healthy.

Like I said, it’s a tired argument. I’m personally ready for this season to start, anxious to see this defense start to gel.

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Posted : Jul. 2, 2025 7:12 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Y'all are being blind homers and ignoring how lucky we are that we can win a division consistently with 8-10 wins.

Naturally, the Bowles Apologists will cling to "the weak division excuse is overplayed".

They claim that every division game is tough, so that has to factor into it. 

Well, if that's the case, which division would you rather play those games against?

The one that went 33-14 in non-divisional games, or the one that went 16-29?

If we're in any other division in the NFC the last 3 years, we don't win a single division title and don't make the playoffs. Those are facts. 

We're fortunate to be in arguably the biggest dogshit division of the last 3 years. Easier to get in the playoffs that way and get a chance to get lucky. 

 
Posted : Jul. 2, 2025 7:38 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

It's just the facts

It's not the facts it's the argument I am taking issue with.  Just because a division had better record does not mean NFC South division games are easier lol. 

it is a FACT that the Saints quit in our first game and then came out strong in the last game ... because they had a chance to be a spoiler 

It quite literally means those games are easier.

Divisional games are tough but they are certainly easier when their QB is Spencer Rattler vs Caleb Williams.

Talent matters. We played like crap vs the saints and pulled it out because they are dog shit.

 

 
Posted : Jul. 2, 2025 9:21 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

We weren't better than the Lions.

We were twice.

We beat them in their place and then our playoff defense of the Commanders was BETTER. But, what happened to the best team wins? It comes with an * when Bowles is involved? 

And by the way, ... the way we got that first victory right? Bowles and Campbell head to head ... that special teams play ...

 

woah!

The lions defense was decimated. We were basically at full strength. 

Bowles decided we would die by a thousand cuts instead of a shootout. He decided minimal possessions was the way to go..keep everything in front of you.

We lost. 

 

 
Posted : Jul. 2, 2025 9:23 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

We weren't better than the Lions.

We were twice.

We beat them in their place and then our playoff defense of the Commanders was BETTER. But, what happened to the best team wins? It comes with an * when Bowles is involved? 

And by the way, ... the way we got that first victory right? Bowles and Campbell head to head ... that special teams play ...

 

woah!

The lions defense was decimated. We were basically at full strength. 

Bowles decided we would die by a thousand cuts instead of a shootout. He decided minimal possessions was the way to go..keep everything in front of you.

We lost. 

 

We won.

 

 
Posted : Jul. 2, 2025 9:46 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

 

We weren't better than the Lions.

 

 

We were twice.

We beat them in their place and then our playoff defense of the Commanders was BETTER.

This is hilarious.

 
Posted : Jul. 3, 2025 9:03 am
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Bowles decided we would die by a thousand cuts instead of a shootout. He decided minimal possessions was the way to go..keep everything in front of you

Bowles did exactly the right thing with the talent available and the result was a stop that led to the 5th ranked offense having a chance to win it. 

That's exactly what you want. Just ask Detroit who got throttled the very next game 

 

our offense choked the chance 

Again, there is a thread here that compares how well our defense did against the Commanders QB compared to the Lions ... 

 
Posted : Jul. 3, 2025 2:56 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

keep everything in front of you.

We played a bunch of man 

 
Posted : Jul. 3, 2025 2:57 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Bowles decided we would die by a thousand cuts instead of a shootout. He decided minimal possessions was the way to go..keep everything in front of you

Bowles did exactly the right thing with the talent available and the result was a stop that led to the 5th ranked offense having a chance to win it. 

That's exactly what you want. Just ask Detroit who got throttled the very next game 

 

our offense choked the chance 

Again, there is a thread here that compares how well our defense did against the Commanders QB compared to the Lions ... 

How can you say he did the right thing and did everything they needed to when LITERALLY the offense tied the game and the defense let them march down the field, kill the clock, and end our season at home?

Playing man or zone is irrelevant when you're playing way off and keeping everything in front of you.

The style prevents possessions from the strength of our team... The offense found no rhythm because the defense was allowing long sustained drives. 

Why is this so hard to understand?

Yes they scored less points than usual but they controlled the clock and possessions. They consistently failed on critical downs and moments... Particularly 4th down.

 

 
Posted : Jul. 4, 2025 11:22 am
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If your defensive talent isn’t up to NFL standards (and we know why, and that it wasn’t), it doesn’t matter what scheme you develop/deploy.

You could argue we needed to score more points, but reality was, that last 4 minute drive was because the other offense figured us out, and played better down the stretch. Although they played well in spots in that game, the defense didn’t have the horses to hang with the dual threat phenom running a system he knew well and had the tools to maximize.

I’m expecting much more from this defense this season.

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Posted : Jul. 4, 2025 4:17 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

How can you say he did the right thing

Pretty easy.  I will lay it out in stats when I get a moment. 

your position is the defense is to blame for not giving the offense enough chances. 

will post the stats

 
Posted : Jul. 4, 2025 4:42 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

How can you say he did the right thing

Pretty easy.  I will lay it out in stats when I get a moment. 

your position is the defense is to blame for not giving the offense enough chances. 

will post the stats

From memory the offense had what, 7 possessions I think? Or was it 9. They scored on all but two from memory. 

 

 
Posted : Jul. 5, 2025 1:41 am
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

How can you say he did the right thing

Pretty easy.  I will lay it out in stats when I get a moment. 

your position is the defense is to blame for not giving the offense enough chances. 

will post the stats

The offense blew it. Season over.  Save the “Stat search” for your mom

 

 
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