you can try and debate but this is not a great argument.
what's to argue, its a fact lol . . that the NFCS is the worst!
My point is a simple one: many people start with a belief and then work backwards NEVER questioning their own assumptions. And when they get facts to the contrary, they dont often modify their assumption. More often than not they just slide the bar.
"worst division in 2025" was a FACT
alternative information was provided (conference comparisons, Eagles, AI)
slide to .. . "most people say its worst division"
slide to . . "since 2022"
* * *
BASIC HUMAN NATURE says its not a coincidence that posters who have been calling for Bowles head since 2022 would accept as "fact" that the NFCS was the worst division in 2025. It is not a fact though. Its an opinion and a pretty debatable one give the information I provided.
That does NOT mean Bowles is good or his performance "excused"
Fire's AI trick again
"Based on final 2025 season data, the NFC East was the NFL's weakest division, finishing with the worst combined record (27-40-1), while the NFC North was considered the best by some metrics, despite some early-season struggles in the Bears and Vikings. Pre-season analyses often pointed to the NFC South or AFC South as potentially weakest due to inconsistent quarterback play, but division strength shifted throughout the season"
For the first time since Todd Bowles took over as HC, the NFCSouth isn't the worst division in the conference - they are the second worst. Coincidentally enough, it's the first time Bowles didn't win the division.
Weird.
Its almost as if…
you can try and debate but this is not a great argument.
what's to argue, its a fact lol . . that the NFCS is the worst!
My point is a simple one: many people start with a belief and then work backwards NEVER questioning their own assumptions. And when they get facts to the contrary, they dont often modify their assumption. More often than not they just slide the bar.
"worst division in 2025" was a FACT
alternative information was provided (conference comparisons, Eagles, AI)
slide to .. . "most people say its worst division"
slide to . . "since 2022"
* * *
BASIC HUMAN NATURE says its not a coincidence that posters who have been calling for Bowles head since 2022 would accept as "fact" that the NFCS was the worst division in 2025. It is not a fact though. Its an opinion and a pretty debatable one give the information I provided.
That does NOT mean Bowles is good or his performance "excused"
lol...i can tell you like to debate....which is why i wouldn't ask you "what is a man or can a man get pregnant" (and this is important distinction to your point of starting with a belief and working your way backwards comment)
but i digress, NFC South is consistently the worst division in football since 2022; and yes i would say the division winner not having a winning record makes it worse than the NFC East or NFC North. That could be subject to debate given overall winning percentage but historical stats side with 99% of NFL Fans, Coaches, Players, and Pundits opinion claiming the NFC South is the worst division in football.
you can try and debate but this is not a great argument.
what's to argue, its a fact lol . . that the NFCS is the worst!
My point is a simple one: many people start with a belief and then work backwards NEVER questioning their own assumptions. And when they get facts to the contrary, they dont often modify their assumption. More often than not they just slide the bar.
"worst division in 2025" was a FACT
alternative information was provided (conference comparisons, Eagles, AI)
slide to .. . "most people say its worst division"
slide to . . "since 2022"
* * *
BASIC HUMAN NATURE says its not a coincidence that posters who have been calling for Bowles head since 2022 would accept as "fact" that the NFCS was the worst division in 2025. It is not a fact though. Its an opinion and a pretty debatable one give the information I provided.
That does NOT mean Bowles is good or his performance "excused"
lol...i can tell you like to debate....which is why i wouldn't ask you "what is a man or can a man get pregnant" (and this is important distinction to your point of starting with a belief and working your way backwards comment)
but i digress, NFC South is consistently the worst division in football since 2022; and yes i would say the division winner not having a winning record makes it worse than the NFC East or NFC North. That could be subject to debate given overall winning percentage but historical stats side with 99% of NFL Fans, Coaches, Players, and Pundits opinion claiming the NFC South is the worst division in football.
lol okay
division winner not having a winning record makes it worse than the NFC East
When the Vikings prepared to play the losing record Giants or Commanders or Cowboys they thought, "yeah but the Eagles tho."
That much more amazing that they beat the Giants, Commanders and Cowboys!
:-)
what is a man or can a man get pregnant
Sick burn.
When you asked this for what I can only assume is the 100th time online, have you ever gotten someone to say "yes I think a man can get pregnant"?
Or is it possible nobody gives a fuck about this?
what is a man or can a man get pregnant
Sick burn.
When you asked this for what I can only assume is the 100th time online, have you ever gotten someone to say "yes I think a man can get pregnant"?
Or is it possible nobody gives a fuck about this?
a nice none response. once you can answer that, then we can take you seriously
what is a man or can a man get pregnant
Sick burn.
When you asked this for what I can only assume is the 100th time online, have you ever gotten someone to say "yes I think a man can get pregnant"?
Or is it possible nobody gives a fuck about this?
a nice none response. once you can answer that, then we can take you seriously
what was the point of including that in your reply on the NFC South? I sort of stopped reading.
what is a man or can a man get pregnant
Sick burn.
When you asked this for what I can only assume is the 100th time online, have you ever gotten someone to say "yes I think a man can get pregnant"?
Or is it possible nobody gives a fuck about this?
a nice none response. once you can answer that, then we can take you seriously
You need me to say it? Lmfao
A male cannot get pregnant as penis cannot give birth.
Any other non-issues you wanna yell about?
what is a man or can a man get pregnant
Sick burn.
When you asked this for what I can only assume is the 100th time online, have you ever gotten someone to say "yes I think a man can get pregnant"?
Or is it possible nobody gives a fuck about this?
a nice none response. once you can answer that, then we can take you seriously
what was the point of including that in your reply on the NFC South? I sort of stopped reading.
point was your propensity to nitpick and debate; saying that if we can't agree on that; than you are coming from a place of debating to debate!
what is a man or can a man get pregnant
Sick burn.
When you asked this for what I can only assume is the 100th time online, have you ever gotten someone to say "yes I think a man can get pregnant"?
Or is it possible nobody gives a fuck about this?
a nice none response. once you can answer that, then we can take you seriously
what was the point of including that in your reply on the NFC South? I sort of stopped reading.
point was your propensity to nitpick and debate; saying that if we can't agree on that; than you are coming from a place of debating to debate!
It's a message board.
what is a man or can a man get pregnant
Sick burn.
When you asked this for what I can only assume is the 100th time online, have you ever gotten someone to say "yes I think a man can get pregnant"?
Or is it possible nobody gives a fuck about this?
a nice none response. once you can answer that, then we can take you seriously
what was the point of including that in your reply on the NFC South? I sort of stopped reading.
point was your propensity to nitpick and debate; saying that if we can't agree on that; than you are coming from a place of debating to debate!
Ah okay.
Well, from my perspective, I pointed out data (conference records) that suggested your assumption about 2025 might be wrong.
isnt the NFC East 17-29-1 in the conference? The NFC South is 23-25 and played the best NFC division
And from there I think YOU (not me) ignored the data and went to "people say" and then to "2022 to now" and then to "division champ with a losing record." That three step sort of makes YOU the DEBATER, right?
by the way, none of this excuses Bowles. I said that earlier too
