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Posted by: @detrimental

Drafting Devin White over Josh Allen set this defense back. We'd probably be a top 10 unit had they used common sense. 

 

Thats the thing about drafting, a miss on a PREMIUM pick has a much bigger impact than just the one missed position because the team then drafts to try to cover for the failure. 

Yesterday, we gave up a touchdown late because JJ Russell lost his man.  JJ Russell is the FOURTH back up to Devin White.  But we also lacked pressure up front and thats partly because the team reached for JTS and Hall . . .maybe not if they draft Allen.

That said, the same FO used premium picks ON OFFENSE to correctly draft Evans, Wirfs, Barton, Mauch, Goedeke and really hit on guys like Godwin and Irving.

 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 11:17 am
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a lot depends on godwin  situation .. .but yes, I'd go all defense as well

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 11:25 am
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Posted by: @rhbucsfan

Well seeing that our defense completely sucks this year, not sure if this post is meant to brag on Licht, or indict him 

The OP definitely was bragging on Licht's draft picks, while the defense is 28th overall and 26th scoring. This is also the same nitwit that said the defense "over performed" by giving up 23 points to a team that averaged 18 points. It's a comical state of cluelessness.

 

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 11:50 am
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Posted by: @biggs3535

The OP definitely was bragging on Licht's draft picks,

Biggs, you're trying too hard.  Flat out making stuff up.  Have a cookie

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 12:05 pm
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Posted by: @rhbucsfan

Well seeing that our defense completely sucks this year, not sure if this post is meant to brag on Licht, or indict him 

Neither

The point was that ONE reason the defense really sucks is that the team really didn't do much in the offseason to improve it, especially not when you compare it to the build up to the Super Bowl.

Last night the Panthers scored a key TD over JJ Russell. So that would be White > Dennis > Britt > Russell.

The Thielen one hand catch is Thomas defending. He's something like 3rd on the DB depth chart

The edge pass rush that was JPP and Barrett is now Diaby and Nelson

Our defense this year was pretty much the same as last year through 4 games. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 12:12 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

this is also the same nitwit that said the defense "over performed"

The CHIEFS are a TOP 10 DEFENSE. The Bucs are a BOTTOM 10 defense

 

Chiefs defense against the Panther offense for 4 QTRS

Young 21/35 263 1 TD  0 INT

Hubbard held to 3.6 ypc 16 rushes for 58 yards, largely taken out of the game

Panthers scored 27 points (INCLUDING a late TD drive)

 

Bucs defense playing IN CAROLINA for 4 Qtrs plus OT 

Young 26/46 298 TD  0 INT

Hubbard held to 3.6 ypc 12 rushes for 43 yards, largely taken out of the game

Panthers score 23.

Young came back to start in the Denver game?  He’s been averaging about 62% completion rate.  He was 56.5% against the Bucs defense

 

 

( the Panthers 2nd Qtr TD drive begins at the Bucs 36? Because the offense went backwards and then we punted for 22 yards)

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 12:35 pm
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The Bucs haven't really spent a lot of resources at the position.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

You make a good point. A 1, 2, 2, 3,3,4 really isn’t a bad investment for 4 sacks or whatever bullshit we’re getting from our edge rushers 

 

 But we do have 20+ blitzes and zero sacks from them. So I think Bowles is on to something.

 

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 12:53 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

This is also the same nitwit that said the defense "over performed"

SR is a "nitwit"

"While the defense didn’t play great against second-year quarterback Bryce Young, who threw for a touchdown and ran for one more, Bowles’ unit did a great job against Hubbard, who was held to just 43 yards on 12 carries. Tampa Bay’s offense struggled with uncharacteristic miscues like a slew of penalties and a pair of interceptions thrown by Baker Mayfield in regulation. And it didn’t help that the Bucs were 0-of-8 on third downs to start the game before finishing 2-of-12.

But I will say this about Bowles’ defense. Tampa Bay held Carolina to just two field goal attempts after Mayfield’s picks. And while the defense benefited from a pair of missed field goals, the Panthers did score just 23 points. That’s better than the 30 points the defense has allowed on four occasions this season.

 

 

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the Panthers did score just 23 points.

"Just" 23 points? If SR doesn't know that this is well above (about 28% above) the Panthers average, then yes, he is a nitwit like yourself.

lolz @ the defense "over performing" vs. Carolina. Shameless.

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 1:41 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

"Just" 23 points? If SR doesn't know that this is well above (about 28% above) the Panthers average

I am going to choose you as the "nitwit' over SR, if thats okay?

And the dishonest "nitwit" at that because the Panthers benched Young and then he came back. Once he became the starter again, the offense put up 14 against the Broncos (we put up 7?) and then 20, 23 and 27 the week before against the Chiefs.

And by the way, the Bucs defense was giving up . . . 30?

 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 1:57 pm
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Biggs, do you agree the Offense UNDERPERFORMED?

 

if so, explain why?

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 1:58 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

[SR] is a nitwit like yourself.

also SR

"White has become RB2 in Tampa Bay as Irving is undoubtedly special."

 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 2:06 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

And by the way, the Bucs defense was giving up . . . 30?

The Bucs 26th ranked scoring defense is allowing 24.7 per game, not 30. Don't let any of that stop you from your nitwittery.

lolz @ "over performing"

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 2:41 pm
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The Bucs haven't really spent a lot of resources at the position.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

You make a good point. A 1, 2, 2, 3,3,4 really isn’t a bad investment for 4 sacks or whatever bullshit we’re getting from our edge rushers 

 

 But we do have 20+ blitzes and zero sacks from them. So I think Bowles is on to something.

 

Just have to clean up a “few communication issues”. I mean, it’s only been 6 years. These things take time. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 3:02 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

the Panthers did score just 23 points.

"Just" 23 points? If SR doesn't know that this is well above (about 28% above) the Panthers average, then yes, he is a nitwit like yourself.

lolz @ the defense "over performing" vs. Carolina. Shameless.

Different QB since coming back from being benched - as evidenced by their competitive play vs the Chief's (albeit a very small sample size). Good defense, improving offense, not to mention how well Canales knows Bowles defense. Carolina looks to be finding their way.

This game reminded me a lot of the Denver game. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 2, 2024 3:03 pm
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