Fair criticism in terms of mixing it up and keep D off balance but I think the claim itself might be wrong?
not trying to discredit the point though. The Panthers watched the Saints film and the Eagles are tough anyway, so he’s got to change it up.
https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/1744061397506355644?t=X99wC6AC80j9osuWVyDqsg&s=19
Via Ledyard - same criticisms that some here want to ignore
Give an example of someone dismissing this.
Just one.
https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/1744061397506355644?t=X99wC6AC80j9osuWVyDqsg&s=19
Via Ledyard - same criticisms that some here want to ignore
Give an example of someone dismissing this.
Just one.
Of running too much on first down?
Of me saying pass to set up the run?
When I posted the run run pass stat?
Of running too much on first down?
Of me saying pass to set up the run?
When I posted the run run pass stat?
You said “that some here want to ignore”.
Hence, me asking for an example of someone dismissing the tweet (or subject of said tweet).
He's criticizing the stubbornness to run in first down... especially up the middle..he talks about it a lot... compounding it by running on 2nd too often (per the stat I showed).
You want me to dig up you saying precisely what exactly... you saying verbatim "I love first down run plays"?
Give me a break dude... all dude respect... you and Biggs constantly defend Canales. You've both said things like "you complain when he does this you complain when he does that"... insinuated that I'm somehow never happy with his play calling.
You both cling to him getting people open and it's always Baker missing it. Certainly true at times no doubt but if you look at Baker's production I'd say macro wise, he did plenty within what I'd call average play calling.
Canales can scheme people open but, as I've said he sucks when it matters most... situational football.
Let's take Baker missing a wide open Evans streaking between a zone. Ok he missed that... clearly he's off and he's hurt. That's not gonna be there... so let's..idk... ADJUST?
Canales just stays the course and hopes it works out. Keep running the ball. Take shots on 3rd and short.
These are bad strategies when we can't fucking run the ball up the middle so predictably and throw deep when we need a couple yards. It wasn't working... yet he keeps trying.
He needs to LEARN to adjust... and I think he will eventually.
But you won't a quote that doesn't need to exist because we've talked this to death and Ledyard disagree with you and Biggs... and agreed with me.
I've criticized Canales shit first and second down play calling and you 2 ALMOST ALWAYS DEFEND IT.
So stop being daft my guy...
Game grade:
Baker F
Canales D
Got to have this one vs the worst team in the NFL to win the NFCS. Bucs wake up and win in a rout.
Bucs 31 - Panthers 10
Not much of a route. Fortunate to have a freak fumble by Panther's WR extending the ball at the goal line. Respect to Mayfield for having multiple injuries and finishing the game. Not confident he'll be effective with all he's dealing with first-round playoffs. We'll see.
honestly .... have you ever seen worse team with healthy starting QB than 2023 panthers? I did my best and can't remember any!!!
our '76 team would kick the hell out of them .... even the bandits would and I'm not kidding!
He's criticizing the stubbornness to run in first down... especially up the middle..he talks about it a lot... compounding it by running on 2nd too often (per the stat I showed).
You want me to dig up you saying precisely what exactly... you saying verbatim "I love first down run plays"?
Give me a break dude... all dude respect... you and Biggs constantly defend Canales. You've both said things like "you complain when he does this you complain when he does that"... insinuated that I'm somehow never happy with his play calling.
You both cling to him getting people open and it's always Baker missing it. Certainly true at times no doubt but if you look at Baker's production I'd say macro wise, he did plenty within what I'd call average play calling.
Canales can scheme people open but, as I've said he sucks when it matters most... situational football.
Let's take Baker missing a wide open Evans streaking between a zone. Ok he missed that... clearly he's off and he's hurt. That's not gonna be there... so let's..idk... ADJUST?
Canales just stays the course and hopes it works out. Keep running the ball. Take shots on 3rd and short.
These are bad strategies when we can't fucking run the ball up the middle so predictably and throw deep when we need a couple yards. It wasn't working... yet he keeps trying.
He needs to LEARN to adjust... and I think he will eventually.
But you won't a quote that doesn't need to exist because we've talked this to death and Ledyard disagree with you and Biggs... and agreed with me.
I've criticized Canales shit first and second down play calling and you 2 ALMOST ALWAYS DEFEND IT.
So stop being daft my guy...
Game grade:
Baker F
Canales D
It looks like you're conflating a few different things, as you gripe damn-near anytime a run is called on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd down. Included in that is where you gripe about the playcaller after the QB checks into to a run play that got jack-squat. That exact scenario happened in the Gameday thread yesterday, where you bitched at Canales for a running play on first down when it was Mayfield that checked into that play. That has happened dozens of times over the course of the season.
You're wanting to portray yourself as unbiased against the playcaller, but your game grades above are laughable. Part of this is the multiple times you've blamed the playcaller for something the QB screwed up. There was yet another example of this in the Gameday thread when Mayfield took the sack on second down. You boisterously claimed Mayfield had nowhere to go with ball while skewering the playcaller because of it. Now, I don't know if this is because you believed Vilma's dumbass when he erroneously said Mayfield didn't have an open receiver or if you watched the play yourself and came to that same wrong conclusion. Either way, there was a clear, WIDE OPEN Cade Otton right in the middle of the field for the first down - but the QB didn't see him for whatever reason. That's not on the playcaller. Your next excuse was that Otton was the fourth option, something you pulled directly from your anus because you had no idea he was even open - much less what option he was in Mayfield's progressions. Even at that, Mayfield had time (4.1+ seconds) to go through his progressions and find the open TE. That wasn't a play where Mauch was raped and there was nothing Mayfield could do about it. He had time. But You seem to always be looking for ways to excuse the QB and blame the playcaller.
You talk about adjustments from long passes because Mayfield was off, while also not acknowledging Mayfield through a couple balls directly to opposing defenders on short passes on the first couple drives. There were all kinds of throws the QB missed yesterday, not just the long ones. Anytime a play doesn't work, it's poor situational playcalling in your eyes. Sometimes, that is the case and the playcaller screwed the pooch. But it's not near as often as you would like everyone to think.
I'm not here to carry Canales' water. I wouldn't shed a tear if Bowles, Canales, and the rest of the staff is fired at the end of the year. But I've watched the QB miss entirely too many plays that a starting-caliber NFL QB should make with ease and repeatedly. With just average QB play, the offense should have scored 28+ points yesterday. But instead we had a QB who threw for a whopping 137 yards on 32 attempts for an abysmal YPA of 4.28. To put that into perspective, Bryce Young's YPA was 5.22 - which is also horrendous but better than Baker Mayfield's YPA. I can't put that on the playcaller.
He's criticizing the stubbornness to run in first down... especially up the middle..he talks about it a lot... compounding it by running on 2nd too often (per the stat I showed).
You want me to dig up you saying precisely what exactly... you saying verbatim "I love first down run plays"?
Give me a break dude... all dude respect... you and Biggs constantly defend Canales. You've both said things like "you complain when he does this you complain when he does that"... insinuated that I'm somehow never happy with his play calling.
You both cling to him getting people open and it's always Baker missing it. Certainly true at times no doubt but if you look at Baker's production I'd say macro wise, he did plenty within what I'd call average play calling.
Canales can scheme people open but, as I've said he sucks when it matters most... situational football.
Let's take Baker missing a wide open Evans streaking between a zone. Ok he missed that... clearly he's off and he's hurt. That's not gonna be there... so let's..idk... ADJUST?
Canales just stays the course and hopes it works out. Keep running the ball. Take shots on 3rd and short.
These are bad strategies when we can't fucking run the ball up the middle so predictably and throw deep when we need a couple yards. It wasn't working... yet he keeps trying.
He needs to LEARN to adjust... and I think he will eventually.
But you won't a quote that doesn't need to exist because we've talked this to death and Ledyard disagree with you and Biggs... and agreed with me.
I've criticized Canales shit first and second down play calling and you 2 ALMOST ALWAYS DEFEND IT.
So stop being daft my guy...
Game grade:
Baker F
Canales D
It looks like you're conflating a few different things, as you gripe damn-near anytime a run is called on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd down. Included in that is where you gripe about the playcaller after the QB checks into to a run play that got jack-squat. That exact scenario happened in the Gameday thread yesterday, where you bitched at Canales for a running play on first down when it was Mayfield that checked into that play. That has happened dozens of times over the course of the season.
You're wanting to portray yourself as unbiased against the playcaller, but your game grades above are laughable. Part of this is the multiple times you've blamed the playcaller for something the QB screwed up. There was yet another example of this in the Gameday thread when Mayfield took the sack on second down. You boisterously claimed Mayfield had nowhere to go with ball while skewering the playcaller because of it. Now, I don't know if this is because you believed Vilma's dumbass when he erroneously said Mayfield didn't have an open receiver or if you watched the play yourself and came to that same wrong conclusion. Either way, there was a clear, WIDE OPEN Cade Otton right in the middle of the field for the first down - but the QB didn't see him for whatever reason. That's not on the playcaller. Your next excuse was that Otton was the fourth option, something you pulled directly from your anus because you had no idea he was even open - much less what option he was in Mayfield's progressions. Even at that, Mayfield had time (4.1+ seconds) to go through his progressions and find the open TE. That wasn't a play where Mauch was raped and there was nothing Mayfield could do about it. He had time. But You seem to always be looking for ways to excuse the QB and blame the playcaller.
You talk about adjustments from long passes because Mayfield was off, while also not acknowledging Mayfield through a couple balls directly to opposing defenders on short passes on the first couple drives. There were all kinds of throws the QB missed yesterday, not just the long ones. Anytime a play doesn't work, it's poor situational playcalling in your eyes. Sometimes, that is the case and the playcaller screwed the pooch. But it's not near as often as you would like everyone to think.
I'm not here to carry Canales' water. I wouldn't shed a tear if Bowles, Canales, and the rest of the staff is fired at the end of the year. But I've watched the QB miss entirely too many plays that a starting-caliber NFL QB should make with ease and repeatedly. With just average QB play, the offense should have scored 28+ points yesterday. But instead we had a QB who threw for a whopping 137 yards on 32 attempts for an abysmal YPA of 4.28. To put that into perspective, Bryce Young's YPA was 5.22 - which is also horrendous but better than Baker Mayfield's YPA. I can't put that on the playcaller.
TKO...
Part of this is the multiple times you've blamed the playcaller for something the QB screwed up.
the hypocrisy meter just exploded . . especially when you throw in THIS
That exact scenario happened in the Gameday thread yesterday,
WOW
The game day thread was literally LITTERED with bullspit mayfield trolling by Trask supporters . . . as you would say perhaps "you and your ilk". LITERALLY, whil th game is going on there were TRIPLE quote post by you and others . . LITERALLY throwing the game on Mayfield.
We had a screen totally blown up . . watch that play. Something is wrong with the call, right?
The game was over so fast with all the 3 and outs and lack of penalties, that we're getting to see some actual good QB play now.
LOL
Gotta make diving catches for this QB.
LOL
The ball LITERALLY went through Palmer's hands because he tried to catch it with his arms and body, not his hands. The throw is the ONLY comment, I didnt edit out the "Palmer has to catch that"
Maybe in another post earlier or after so apologies, but that is what I mean by LITTERED. At least you mentioned mauch getting blown up. That happened all day
This is today from the football acumen "ilk"
Baker proved yesterday he is worthless. We were incredibly lucky to win that game.
Baker is "worthless"
:-)
Gotta make diving catches for this QB.
LOL
The ball LITERALLY went through Palmer's hands because he tried to catch it with his arms and body, not his hands. The throw is the ONLY comment, I didnt edit out the "Palmer has to catch that"
Maybe in another post earlier or after so apologies, but that is what I mean by LITTERED. At least you mentioned mauch getting blown up. That happened all day
The WR had to dive for a poorly thrown ball. This is another example of the QB making a poor throw, leading to a FG instead of a TD.
You really don't have to continue displaying you have no idea what you're talking about. We already know.
