as a long time fan of this team, I am not dismissing your concerns. It’s yet to be decided if we can even bait a coordinator to take a job under these circumstances…especially with 7 open coaching opportunities.., but if we could get an OC that has some familiarity with what Baker does well - and has some playcalling chops already under his belt, it could be what the offense needs.I understand your point, but it feels like we're placing a lot of hope in a situation that may not change. A leopard can’t change its spots—Bowles is who he is, and that hasn’t changed. We’re essentially asking a coach to achieve things he has struggled with or been unwilling to do. It seems like we’re micromanaging him, which raises the question: what’s the point? We need someone we can trust to be the face of our franchise, rather than trying to shape someone who hasn’t shown they can succeed.
My main concern is that an organization's fortunes can shift rapidly, but recovering from a downturn can be much more challenging. I’m not in favor of repeating the same approach continuously; it’s becoming stale.
Hiring a DC may make it less attractive for luring an OC whose goal is to become the head coach - but it’s where our ownership put us.
It is sub-optimal, but survivable - at this point anyway (and from my vantage point).
So what are I’m hearing here is that it’s simple. We need to improve our roster, replace some coaches, score a few more points, and allow a few less points. I didn’t realize how easy this was going to be? We should just give this list to Bowles and Licht and all will be good.
The roster wasn’t good enough. Do you need a list of what positions need to be upgraded?
it was an 11-6 roster. Were we good enough to win Superbowl? probably not, but the roster was more improved than in 2024 and we regressed
we went 2-4 against a schedule that we should have went 5-1 at worst, 4-2 if we were struggling
the collaspe had nothing to do with the roster.
8-9? no fuckin way
The teams in our PFF tier:
Saints, Dolphins, Falcons, Giants, Panthers, Cardinals, Steelers.
The teams in our PFF tier:
Saints, Dolphins, Falcons, Giants, Panthers, Cardinals, Steelers.
What PFF tier are the Bears and Jags this season? And how about those same players last season?
The teams in our PFF tier:
Saints, Dolphins, Falcons, Giants, Panthers, Cardinals, Steelers.
What PFF tier are the Bears and Jags this season? And how about those same players last season?
Jags and Bears are in the same tier as:
Eagles, Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, Texans, Ravens, Colts, Cowboys, Ravens
Howe much turnover in the starting depth charts of Jags and Bears 2024 versus 2025? Anyone think of that?
One thing is for sure. Looks like everyone, except for Bowles, was the problem in the building. Good for him to be able to pull this off on the Glazers.
One thing is for sure. Looks like everyone, except for Bowles, was the problem in the building. Good for him to be able to pull this off on the Glazers.
The problems have been properly identified, for sure
Jags and Bears are in the same tier as:
How about last year?
I’m sure it was similar at 4 and 5 wins respectively.
Or, I don’t know, good coaches get the most out of their players.
test your own theory bright one. The depth charts from both years are available online.
my guess is you do no such thing because you're scared that once again your football bluster is off.
We all saw the real bad decision last offseason turn out the way we expected: Bowles sucked and Liam excelled with the Jags.
This off season we will see some teams add new fresh coaches and drastically improve as we sit back and watch the same BS; mid season slumps, soft ass zone coverage, third and a mile converted always, rookie QBs torch us, etc
We all saw the real bad decision last offseason turn out the way we expected: Bowles sucked and Liam excelled with the Jags.
This off season we will see some teams add new fresh coaches and drastically improve as we sit back and watch the same BS; mid season slumps, soft ass zone coverage, third and a mile converted always, rookie QBs torch us, etc
Yeah, but mediocrity is safe.
Change is super, duper scary.
Besides, hiring a new HC would involve multiple interviews with several qualified candidates who would have to earn the role.
That’s called competition and truth be told, it’s scary.
Far better to just hand somebody the job than put them through the extremely stressful and potentially traumatic experience of interviewing for it.
I mean, the players absolutely love him. Did you see how hard they played down the stretch against a juggernaut schedule?
They didn’t quit on him, stayed the course, and fought through the grueling walkthroughs.
Inspiring stuff which was evident by the outpouring of support with the media this week. All of them bought in.
2026 is a year with Lombardi aspirations.
If Bowles gives up defensive play calling duties and we get 3 good coordinators I will feel "less bad" about keeping him.
I wanna see what Licht does in the draft and off-season. The dead cap money excuse is gone. He's on the hot seat with Bowles now.
Put up or shut up time. Get your coordinators, build the front 7 around Diaby and Vea, get aggressive in FA
Yes. The team has decided to make fans deal with it. We all get to come up with how we’re going to approach this coming season. They’re hoping to transition to a new head coach over time - whatever their true motivation for handling it this way is - and they’re balancing that against creating apathy.One thing is for sure. Looks like everyone, except for Bowles, was the problem in the building. Good for him to be able to pull this off on the Glazers.
The problems have been properly identified, for sure
Not very confident we’ll pick the OC with the chops to be able to take over as head coach. That means it will be someone with some organizational skills, with some experience calling plays, and an offense that will mesh with the QB/offensive talent already assembled.
They seem to be trying to manage a transition - the problem is the Bucs are not as competitive next season (or mimic what we did this season) apathy will grow. This isn’t Cincinnati, warm weather teams are competing with the sun and the sand.
At this point it looks like a planned regression that will be sold as “transitory”.
I wanna see what Licht does in the draft and off-season. The dead cap money excuse is gone. He's on the hot seat with Bowles now.
Put up or shut up time. Get your coordinators, build the front 7 around Diaby and Vea, get aggressive in FA
This seems to be to point that gets lost in the DEI crap.
The Glazers supposedly chose Licht over Harbaugh. Licht didn't have to stay with Bowles. He did even though that move puts him squarely in the crosshairs for 2026. Let see what they do now.
