I'm just trying to point out that there is no reason anybody should be keeping anything information wraps
you're assuming people are keeping information under wraps because no one have given you the information you think you need? Couldnt it just be theres nothing to report because everyone INVOLVED accepts he will be ready and the only question is the contract terms?
If I'm Godwin I'd fire my agent in that case, because Godwin's contract with the Bucs is very much related to what he'd get on the open market. If Godwin is healthy and his agent is not informing the rest of the league then he's commiting malpractice. And if all the rest of the teams in the league know, then it's hard to believe the good news wouldn't be available to the media as well. But the media hasn't been given any update. And they are asking the question. Rick Stroud obviously asked the question and didn't get an answer. Perhaps it is just a non-issue so nobody thought to say anything. I hope you're right.I'm just trying to point out that there is no reason anybody should be keeping anything information wraps
you're assuming people are keeping information under wraps because no one have given you the information you think you need? Couldnt it just be theres nothing to report because everyone INVOLVED accepts he will be ready and the only question is the contract terms?
Godwin on another team wont be as good, as he will be here. He is well respected, loved and a focal point. On another team he will be making a big mistake as a lot of other free agent wr's, the scheme isnt the same the production isnt the same and the same respect isnt there. Godwin has a very specific skillset that shines with tunnel screens and yac plays which he will get plenty here. Another team may not do that, think of how Canales schemed him up playing more of the tyler lockett role.
A few bucks isnt worth the happiness he will have here playing his way into the ring of honor and being a perennial playoff contender
If I'm Godwin I'd fire my agent in that case, because Godwin's contract with the Bucs is very much related to what he'd get on the open market. If Godwin is healthy and his agent is not informing the rest of the league then he's commiting malpractice. And if all the rest of the teams in the league know, then it's hard to believe the good news wouldn't be available to the media as well. But the media hasn't been given any update. And they are asking the question. Rick Stroud obviously asked the question and didn't get an answer. Perhaps it is just a non-issue so nobody thought to say anything. I hope you're right.I'm just trying to point out that there is no reason anybody should be keeping anything information wraps
you're assuming people are keeping information under wraps because no one have given you the information you think you need? Couldnt it just be theres nothing to report because everyone INVOLVED accepts he will be ready and the only question is the contract terms?
hopefully it all works out
If Godwin is healthy and his agent is not informing the rest of the league then he's commiting malpractice.
Seems no malpractice . . yet.
"And if he does hit the open market, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, speaking on “The Insiders” last night, says Godwin’s agent will be a very popular fellow fielding calls and texts from NFL teams."
If I'm Godwin I'd fire my agent in that case, because Godwin's contract with the Bucs is very much related to what he'd get on the open market.
Everyone already knows the market, at least within some reasonable degree of certainty.
It is not an auction and Godwin's agency, CAA, is one of the biggest so they probably set the WR market themselves. If they didnt, they certainly have very good insight into what the 2025 offseason market will be for WRs.
Heck, for all we know, the Bucs and Godwin may have already agreed to see what the market is. In other words, the whole process is usually much more collaborative than most seems to think.
I am a huge Godwin fan and so i certainly hope we sign him and I get there is always the risk he leaves or we over pay, BUT usually if a player goes elsewhere it is because because both sides made a reasonably INFORMED decision. The Bucs are definitely in the best position to make that decision.
"Everyone already knows the market, at least within some reasonable degree of certainty.
It is not an auction and Godwin's agency, CAA, is one of the biggest so they probably set the WR market themselves. If they didnt, they certainly have very good insight into what the 2025 offseason market will be for WRs."
Well, it's being reported that the bidding for Godwin is hot and heavy at around $25 mil per year. That figure means nothing and is probably just the agent putting that out there trying to drum up a bigger contract. It's the guaranteed money that counts. You can add a big non-guaranteed year to the end that a player will never see a dollar of.
So what can we take from that? Just that Godwins camp is out there trying to drum up a contract! He's not just trying to negotiate with the Bucs, so there is some auctioning going on. But if the agent wants to play agent games, Licht isn't going to be manipulated because he has a lot of fish to fry. And Edge rushers seem to be more plentiful than ever, which means the market price may be more reasonable for them than for Godwin. Hendrickson (for a Day 2 pick), Landry, Sweat, Mack, Reddick, Young. Or one of the lesser known guys finds his way to the Bucs while everyone is paying attention to the big names.
Anyway, the Bucs have a big incentive to spread out the void money which hits the cap on March 12th, five days from now. With the legal tampering beginning on Monday, the Bucs need to get something done this weekend. If this is all pretty much set, then we should know something this weekend.
Well, it's being reported that the bidding for Godwin is hot and heavy at around $25 mil per year.
Where did you see that reported?
I see it now. Mike Gerardi. I think another “insider” said $13 million per.
my guess is… somewhere in between lol
He's probably still a 20m a year guy, but i doubt other teams are rushing to pickup a guy with a dislocated ankle, with torn ligaments, theres always a bit of uncertainty on heavy use joints, and having to rehab with a new team of trainers.
This is one of those situations like Baker's where the team and the individual are much more valuable to each other.
Cause if Godwin goes to another place, and that ankle doesnt feel right hes getting shit on by the city for being a waste of money and maybe some sideeyes in the building, pressure to get back asap. Michael thomas never got his ankle right
If I'm Godwin I'd fire my agent in that case, because Godwin's contract with the Bucs is very much related to what he'd get on the open market. If Godwin is healthy and his agent is not informing the rest of the league then he's commiting malpractice. And if all the rest of the teams in the league know, then it's hard to believe the good news wouldn't be available to the media as well. But the media hasn't been given any update. And they are asking the question. Rick Stroud obviously asked the question and didn't get an answer. Perhaps it is just a non-issue so nobody thought to say anything. I hope you're right.I'm just trying to point out that there is no reason anybody should be keeping anything information wraps
you're assuming people are keeping information under wraps because no one have given you the information you think you need? Couldnt it just be theres nothing to report because everyone INVOLVED accepts he will be ready and the only question is the contract terms?
Trask, if you were to apply your words to the LVD situation you would have claimed that something was wrong because no one was saying anything. But then, Wagner signs and LVD signs right behind him for basically the same money. Not really coincidence, right?
During that silent period when you were claiming something was wrong, Bowles probably knew all along that LVD was coming back. The Bucs probably knew all along that LVD was most like'y coming back . . . and just waiting for the market (Wagner). Wagner reps himself and is one of LVD's closest friend . . you think they didnt talk. Wagner basically added inflation to his last contract lol
I didn't say Godwin should be negotiating his contract in the press. Just the injury status. I just think it's strange that he or his agent isn't putting it out there that he'll be fine for training camp or at least week 1. But I will say that somebody is out there leaking that he can get $25 mil from the Patriots. If his agent is leaking that then he must be OK, because Godwin will have to pass a physical to get a new contract. Perhaps its the Patriots just trying to prevent the Bucs from getting off easy with Godwin's contract. Who knows. It would certainly seem that the projection of a 2 year $36 mil hometown discount deal is a bit low.If I'm Godwin I'd fire my agent in that case, because Godwin's contract with the Bucs is very much related to what he'd get on the open market. If Godwin is healthy and his agent is not informing the rest of the league then he's commiting malpractice. And if all the rest of the teams in the league know, then it's hard to believe the good news wouldn't be available to the media as well. But the media hasn't been given any update. And they are asking the question. Rick Stroud obviously asked the question and didn't get an answer. Perhaps it is just a non-issue so nobody thought to say anything. I hope you're right.I'm just trying to point out that there is no reason anybody should be keeping anything information wraps
you're assuming people are keeping information under wraps because no one have given you the information you think you need? Couldnt it just be theres nothing to report because everyone INVOLVED accepts he will be ready and the only question is the contract terms?
Trask, if you were to apply your words to the LVD situation you would have claimed that something was wrong because no one was saying anything. But then, Wagner signs and LVD signs right behind him for basically the same money. Not really coincidence, right?
During that silent period when you were claiming something was wrong, Bowles probably knew all along that LVD was coming back. The Bucs probably knew all along that LVD was most like'y coming back . . . and just waiting for the market (Wagner). Wagner reps himself and is one of LVD's closest friend . . you think they didnt talk. Wagner basically added inflation to his last contract lol
Well apparently that was some sports dude in Boston who floated that figure. As I said even if that figure was somehow leaked out it doesn't mean much. But there is a lot of talk about Godwin going to the Patriots simply because they have a lot of cap room and need a dependable receiver for Drake Maye. There are teams out there with more desperation for a WR and more cap space to use.Well, it's being reported that the bidding for Godwin is hot and heavy at around $25 mil per year.
Where did you see that reported?
I didn't say Godwin should be negotiating his contract in the press. Just the injury status
You're assigning a negative to public silence that is pretty common, especially BEFORE free agency
There’s a reason you haven’t heard anything about it.
