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Weird - Spotrac has corrected it now. It was a head scratcher… 

 
Posted : Mar. 10, 2025 6:36 pm
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Perine back to Cincy for 2 years upto 3.8 mil.

cant believe he turned down the Bucs 7 mil per!

lol.

 
Posted : Mar. 10, 2025 6:46 pm
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If White is traded it's because he asks for a trade.  Otherwise, there's no reason to trade him. 

There are plenty of reasons to trade him. 

1. It saves $3M of cap space. 

2. He's on the last year of his contract and likely will not be re-signed. 

3. This is one of the deepest RB classes in memory. A guy we can get in the 5th round is likely a 3rd round pick in most years. That compounds the draft value we're getting in return. 

4. He's the worst runner of the 3, by a wide margin. 

5. He's a skilled pass blocker and receiver but for the Bucs to take the offense to the next level they have run the ball more, especially with Sean Tucker. 

 

They aren't paying Godwin to run the ball. Only three teams in the league ran it more than 50% of the time.  The Bucs were 12th in the league at 44.6%  Even if they have an uptick in the percentage rushing it's still less than half the time, and if you do the math that means they're passing more than half the time.  And White ran for 4.3 YPC last year.  With one year left on his deal, what are you going to get in trade?  A 6th rounder at best.  

 

We lost 3 games last year because we didnt run the ball enough or effectively enough in crucial 4th qtr situations. 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 10, 2025 7:18 pm
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"As for Sean Tucker, there is a chance that he could move up the depth chart, but pass protection is an issue."

Rachaad White is currently Bucky Irving’s backup and he’s an elite pass protector – one of the best blocking backs in the NFL. So it would take Tucker making a monumental leap in that area to surpass White as RB2 in Tampa Bay. White is entering a contract year and has everything to play for, so he’s going to make every run, catch and snap count this year in order to maximize his value in free agency in 2026"

 

NOTHING surprising.  Tucker currently RB3 because of pass protection (not because of running ability).

White RB2 . . . in a contract year.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 9:24 am
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Posted by: @bucsbits

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"As for Sean Tucker, there is a chance that he could move up the depth chart, but pass protection is an issue."

Rachaad White is currently Bucky Irving’s backup and he’s an elite pass protector – one of the best blocking backs in the NFL. So it would take Tucker making a monumental leap in that area to surpass White as RB2 in Tampa Bay. White is entering a contract year and has everything to play for, so he’s going to make every run, catch and snap count this year in order to maximize his value in free agency in 2026"

 

NOTHING surprising.  Tucker currently RB3 because of pass protection (not because of running ability).

White RB2 . . . in a contract year.

 

There's a role for all 3, White just deserves the least snaps and touches. Anyone who watched the games last year can see the wide talent gap between Irving/Tucker and White. The emphasis on pass protection stems from Coen's pass happy play calling. It's to the point where people, including inside the Bucs, just make up reasons why Tucker has to be glued to the bench. 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 11:52 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Anyone who watched the games last year can see the wide talent gap between Irving/Tucker and White.

I dont think most would agree with that, as it relates to Tucker v White in 2024.  New year coming up though 

You claim a "wide talent gap" between White and Tucker, but based on one factor (running). Th RB job is more than that one factor and White has the upper hand over Tucker in all the other factors (experience, pass catching, pass blocking etc). I think Whit had multiple TDs  and many yards on 50ish receptions and again theres experience, blocking and mist importantly pre-snap versatility.

 

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Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 12:12 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

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Anyone who watched the games last year can see the wide talent gap between Irving/Tucker and White.

I dont think most would agree with that, as it relates to Tucker v White in 2024.  New year coming up though 

You claim a "wide talent gap" between White and Tucker, but based on one factor (running). Th RB job is more than that one factor and White has the upper hand over Tucker in all the other factors (experience, pass catching, pass blocking etc). I think Whit had multiple TDs  and many yards on 50ish receptions and again theres experience, blocking and mist importantly pre-snap versatility.

 

You mentioning experience twice is an example making things up. RB is the one position where expierence doesn't matter. It's a plug and play position. You either have it or don't. Bucky has it. Tucker has it. White doesnt. 

I'm tired of hearing about the pass blocking and "versatility". This is the shit that cost us games last year. This line is too good, Irving and Tucker are too good to be playing "versatility". Run our best runs with our best backs behind this monster OL. 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 12:32 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

You mentioning experience twice is an example making things up. RB is the one position where expierence doesn't matter. It's a plug and play position. You either have it or don't. Bucky has it. Tucker has it. White doesnt.

I'm tired of hearing about the pass blocking and "versatility". This is the shit that cost us games last year. This line is too good, Irving and Tucker are too good to be playing "versatility".

This may by why your GM position didn't last as long as you thought it should. You would be laughed out of every NFL FO with that take.

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 12:39 pm
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You mentioning experience twice is an example making things up. RB is the one position where expierence doesn't matter. It's a plug and play position. You either have it or don't. Bucky has it. Tucker has it. White doesnt.

I'm tired of hearing about the pass blocking and "versatility". This is the shit that cost us games last year. This line is too good, Irving and Tucker are too good to be playing "versatility".

This may by why your GM position didn't last as long as you thought it should. You would be laughed out of every NFL FO with that take.

Why did you delete my last sentence?

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 12:40 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

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Posted by: @jc5100

You mentioning experience twice is an example making things up. RB is the one position where expierence doesn't matter. It's a plug and play position. You either have it or don't. Bucky has it. Tucker has it. White doesnt.

I'm tired of hearing about the pass blocking and "versatility". This is the shit that cost us games last year. This line is too good, Irving and Tucker are too good to be playing "versatility".

This may by why your GM position didn't last as long as you thought it should. You would be laughed out of every NFL FO with that take.

Why did you delete my last sentence?

 

Because it wasn't apart of the piss-poor "experience" and "versatility" argument I was addressing. I'll address that separately, if you like.

Why is this stuff hard for you to understand?

 

Posted by: @jc5100

Run our best runs with our best backs behind this monster OL. 

They are, dipshit. There is a reason Emmitt Smith is buried on the depth chart, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 12:48 pm
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RB is the one position where expierence doesn't matter. It's a plug and play position. You either have it or don't. Bucky has it. Tucker has it. White doesnt. 

So says the president of the high school Dungeon and Dragons club? You're probably getting NOWHERE with that one lol.

Experience matters in EVERY sport and every football position and you can see that in the actual play of Tucker where he was slow to recognize and attack a rusher and it led to a critical sack.

What Bucky has (so far) that Tucker does not is EVERYTHING else. When Tucker is in the backfield a defense would naturally think RUN, when Irving is in the backfield it could be anything, same with White. That might change BUT that is why in 2024 it was Bucky as RB1 (dont tell you know who), White as RB2 and Tucker mostly as the 4:00 guy.

 

I like Tucker and it would be great if he became a fraction of what you claim him to be. FINGERS CROSSED

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 12:48 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

This may by why your GM position didn't last as long as you thought it should.

Would love to hear what team this clown supposedly GM’d for. 

Professing that pass blocking for RB’s in the modern NFL isn’t a big deal.

Might be the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen posted on here.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 12:54 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @jc5100

RB is the one position where expierence doesn't matter. It's a plug and play position. You either have it or don't. Bucky has it. Tucker has it. White doesnt. 

So says the president of the high school Dungeon and Dragons club? You're probably getting NOWHERE with that one lol.

Experience matters in EVERY sport and every football position and you can see that in the actual play of Tucker where he was slow to recognize and attack a rusher and it led to a critical sack.

What Bucky has (so far) that Tucker does not is EVERYTHING else. When Tucker is in the backfield a defense would naturally think RUN, when Irving is in the backfield it could be anything, same with White. That might change BUT that is why in 2024 it was Bucky as RB1 (dont tell you know who), White as RB2 and Tucker mostly as the 4:00 guy.

 

I like Tucker and it would be great if he became a fraction of what you claim him to be. FINGERS CROSSED

Baker threw a 36 yard, 25 yard and 11 yard TDs in consecutive weeks with Tucker in the backfield. 

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 1:31 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

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RB is the one position where expierence doesn't matter. It's a plug and play position. You either have it or don't. Bucky has it. Tucker has it. White doesnt. 

So says the president of the high school Dungeon and Dragons club? You're probably getting NOWHERE with that one lol.

Experience matters in EVERY sport and every football position and you can see that in the actual play of Tucker where he was slow to recognize and attack a rusher and it led to a critical sack.

What Bucky has (so far) that Tucker does not is EVERYTHING else. When Tucker is in the backfield a defense would naturally think RUN, when Irving is in the backfield it could be anything, same with White. That might change BUT that is why in 2024 it was Bucky as RB1 (dont tell you know who), White as RB2 and Tucker mostly as the 4:00 guy.

 

I like Tucker and it would be great if he became a fraction of what you claim him to be. FINGERS CROSSED

Baker threw a 36 yard, 25 yard and 11 yard TDs in consecutive weeks with Tucker in the backfield. 

 

 

You're back to the "he was on the field for 18 TD drives"

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2025 1:34 pm
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