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"Jeremiah seems to believe the Bucs are going defense in the first round. And he tends to think the Bucs may just grab one of two SEC defenders.

Jeremiah likes the Bucs selecting linebacker Jihaad Campbell of Alabama as a no-brainer pick for Todd Bowles."

 

"Well, aggressive guys that can blitz from anywhere,” is how Jeremiah described what Bowles and the Bucs may be looking for. Jihaad Campbell would be sure as heck fun to watch there just with all the different things he can do, and fast and explosive and smart.

“That’s a good combination for Coach Bowles to be able to play with there. That’s the first thing that jumped off the top of my head here when I’m thinking about those types of players.”

 

he goes on to say Mykel Williams from Georgia if they go edge

 
Posted : Feb. 21, 2025 11:40 am
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"The team has two excellent starters Vita Vea, who made the Pro Bowl in 2024, and Calijah Kancey, who was the team’s leading sacker with 7.5 last year. Logan Hall figures to be DT3 once again in 2025, especially after recording a career-high 5.5 sacks in a breakout year. Now, Hall is entering a contract year and could price himself out of Tampa Bay with another solid season.

The Bucs should lean into an incredibly deep defensive tackle draft this year and draft Hall’s eventual replacement. But the Bucs should also shore up the position in free agency with the signing of veteran Poona Ford, who is coming off a good rebound year in his first season with the Chargers."

 
Posted : Feb. 21, 2025 11:52 am
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Chopping my sentences is such a bitch move.

This is something whiny bitches say.

 

Posted by: @jc5100

We are talking draft philosophy and using draft history as examples. History shows the Bucs should not draft for a specific need, rather draft the best player that is a WR, TE, OL, Edge, LB, DB, all based on the current roster.

Again, no we aren't. We are discussing your idea to draft an OT prospect, who most are projecting at OT, and move him to OG.

 

Posted by: @jc5100

Bucs are probably the only team in the league that is absolutely set at both tackles but have a hole at guard. This why the Bucs are the only team in the league that would draft Banks to play guard. You think you're proving a point but you're just being a smug dumbass. If Tristan Wirfs had a younger brother that was exactly like him and he was available at 19 where would the Bucs play him in 2025? LG. Where would the rest of the league play him? OT.

You're making up fantasy-land scenarios to justify your "idea" about Banks dropping and moving him to OG, which is about the only way you can justify it. As I've already said, if there is an All-Pro (or Hall of Fame, as you're speculating) player available, you'll never regret drafting him. I'm not sure how much clearly I can say that.

 

Posted by: @jc5100

Every year there are not multiple HOFers plus a franchise QB picked after round 1. Using PFR's best 32 players from the class,  the 2016 draft has an average wAV of 62. 2015 has 55 and 2017 has 57. Good draft class, shitty draft boards. 

2016's wAV is inflated by a fifth round WR and 4th round QB in 90's in the top 3. If you're making the argument that prospect Tyreek Hill and prospect Dak Prescott should have been first round picks, I'm not sure what else to say. I have no doubt you had both of them as top 5 prospects on your draft board, Mr. Red Board GM.

Who were you banging the drum to draft in R1 after the trade-back? Be honest.

It's not a "fantasy-land scenario". I've seen mocks where Banks slips to our vacinity and sometimes to us. It's not an impossible scenario if Dart creeps up and a team likes Simmons and/or Membou better than Banks.

I have Banks as a B+ tackle than can translate to an A or A+ guard. Going into the 2014 draft the Cowboys had Tyron Smith at LT (Wirfs type) and Doug Free at RT (Goedeke type) and needed a guard. Some guy named Zack Martin was projected as a 1st round tackle, having played LT for Notre Dame. 

https://www.nfl.com/news/mike-mayock-s-updated-position-rankings-for-2014-nfl-draft-0ap2000000338425

Dallas took him at 16 and moved him to guard. I'm proposing a similar idea, but you say it's stupid. I'm sure you'll have some reason it doesn't count and when Banks doesn't play guard because he gets drafted to team that needs a tackle you'll bring it up every other post how wrong I was. Just like the 2016 draft doesn't count as good because Hill went in the 5th round and Dak went in the 4th. iT dOeSn'T cOuNt

In 2016 I wanted Leonard Floyd at 9 and Mackensie Alexander in round 2. 

 

 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 21, 2025 12:58 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

It's not a "fantasy-land scenario".

 

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If Tristan Wirfs had a younger brother that was exactly like him and he was available at 19

That, and you've already sized Banks for his HOF jacket. Those two things are what I'm referring to as fantasy-land.

 

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I'm sure you'll have some reason it doesn't count and when Banks doesn't play guard because he gets drafted to team that needs a tackle you'll bring it up every other post how wrong I was.

So, you mean when some other team drafts Banks before the Bucs pick and plays him at OT like I've said, I may bring that up a time or two? You're probably right.  Banks is going anywhere from the first OT to the third OT off of the board in mocks. I'd have him at #2 behind Campbell.

FTR, I'm not shitting on Banks. I like him as a prospect. But I'd have Scourton and other Edge players that may drop ahead of him. I just don't see Banks dropping to 19. Certainly could happen, because crazy shit happens on draft day, but I would be surprised.

 

Posted by: @jc5100

In 2016 I wanted Leonard Floyd at 9 and Mackensie Alexander in round 2.

This is sort of honest, so I appreciate that.  You did want Floyd at #9. But Mackensie Alexander is the answer to my question, as you had him as the best CB in the draft. He was the guy you wanted after the trade back. Like Hargreaves, he's also out of the league. Pretty shitty first round after the top 9.

 
Posted : Feb. 21, 2025 1:20 pm
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Crickets on the 2014 Cowboys example, which you called "stupid" and "fantasy-land" without realizing it's based on something that really happened. 

 
Posted : Feb. 21, 2025 3:16 pm
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Crickets on the 2014 Cowboys example, which you called "stupid" and "fantasy-land" without realizing it's based on something that really happened. 

lolz @ "without realizing it's based on something that really happened."

Moving college Tackles to Guard in the NFL isn't anything new. It happens all of the time. Hell, we just drafted a college Tackle and moved him to Center. It just usually doesn't happen to top college tackles, which Zach Martin was not and Kelvin Banks is. Most folks had Martin moving to OG in the NFL. Most folks have Banks as an NFL Tackle.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 21, 2025 4:17 pm
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Punter Bryan Anger is a FA this offseason that we should consider bringing back. 

 
Posted : Feb. 22, 2025 1:22 pm
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Posted by: @rhbucsfan

Punter Bryan Anger is a FA this offseason that we should consider bringing back. 

Depends on the cost but yes we need a punter. Last year was a joke 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 23, 2025 9:21 am
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Last year was a joke 

It was bad. 

 
Posted : Feb. 23, 2025 9:23 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Crickets on the 2014 Cowboys example, which you called "stupid" and "fantasy-land" without realizing it's based on something that really happened. 

lolz @ "without realizing it's based on something that really happened."

Moving college Tackles to Guard in the NFL isn't anything new. It happens all of the time. Hell, we just drafted a college Tackle and moved him to Center. It just usually doesn't happen to top college tackles, which Zach Martin was not and Kelvin Banks is. Most folks had Martin moving to OG in the NFL. Most folks have Banks as an NFL Tackle.

 

We'll put this in the "doesn't count" category. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 23, 2025 10:45 am
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Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @jc5100

Crickets on the 2014 Cowboys example, which you called "stupid" and "fantasy-land" without realizing it's based on something that really happened. 

lolz @ "without realizing it's based on something that really happened."

Moving college Tackles to Guard in the NFL isn't anything new. It happens all of the time. Hell, we just drafted a college Tackle and moved him to Center. It just usually doesn't happen to top college tackles, which Zach Martin was not and Kelvin Banks is. Most folks had Martin moving to OG in the NFL. Most folks have Banks as an NFL Tackle.

 

We'll put this in the "doesn't count" category. 

 

I think it would be better categorized in the “you’re not following along” department.

The last college OT you were frisky about drafting in the first round and moving to OG was Connor Williams, who also happens to be out Texas. He’s now out of the NFL. Williams was transitioned OG, as most pundits projected him to be - unlike Banks.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 23, 2025 11:03 am
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

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Punter Bryan Anger is a FA this offseason that we should consider bringing back. 

Depends on the cost but yes we need a punter. Last year was a joke 

 

 

hes a punter, not a lockdown corner. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 23, 2025 5:37 pm
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Posted by: @rhbucsfan

Posted by: @firebowles2023

Posted by: @rhbucsfan

Punter Bryan Anger is a FA this offseason that we should consider bringing back. 

Depends on the cost but yes we need a punter. Last year was a joke 

 

 

hes a punter, not a lockdown corner. 

 

So we should overpay for a punter with limited cap space? 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 23, 2025 7:07 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Posted by: @rhbucsfan

Posted by: @firebowles2023

Posted by: @rhbucsfan

Punter Bryan Anger is a FA this offseason that we should consider bringing back. 

Depends on the cost but yes we need a punter. Last year was a joke 

 

 

hes a punter, not a lockdown corner. 

 

So we should overpay for a punter with limited cap space? 

 

And, as we've discussed, why pay a premium for lockdown corner that Balless Bowles will simply play zone with?

 

 
Posted : Feb. 23, 2025 9:40 pm
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In a perfect world we get all three layers with the first three picks 

1 D-line

1 LB

1 CB

BPA override.

Fine with WR or G or S or even an elite TE falling to the second round (doubt it).

 
Posted : Feb. 23, 2025 11:14 pm
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