@NFLosophy Feb 11Teams don't speak in 1st round vs. 3rd round. They speak in terms of hall of famer, 10 yr starter, back up, role player, & special teamer.
I think most teams use a rating system where each prospect gets a number based on size, speed, athleticism, and many different aspects to his actual on field play...but there are always lots of side notes and in the end the HC and GM have to factor in all the other stuff like production, level of competition, positional value, need, work ethic, love of the game, character, leadership, scheme fit, ect...and make the decision. Because while you might have two guys at the same position both rated as 87.6.....it's all the other stuff that you can't put a number on that truly decides who your draft.So there is probably a general idea of where a guy should be drafted by what his number is, but I doubt any team ranks players by round.
"...They speak in terms of hall of famer, 10 yr starter, back up, role player, & special teamer..."Makes so much more sense to me when simply assigning value.
IF they speak in terms of HoF, 10 year stater, etc....how do they decide what the trade value for the pick is? I agree they look at prospects and figure out who looks like they can step in and play day 1 vs who needs some coaching but could be good one day.....but I doubt any scouting guy worth their salt calls any kid coming out "HoF, 10 year starter". Too many unknowns that you cannot quantify.
but I doubt any scouting guy worth their salt calls any kid coming out "HoF, 10 year starter". Too many unknowns that you cannot quantify.
Apparently most do. Besides what makes more sense"Boss, I think he's a top 10 guy" What does that even mean? He's a top 10 guy IN THIS DRAFT? Or top 10 in any draft?"Boss, I think he's a guy who can be an All Pro player at his position" You know what that means. You know that value.
IF they speak in terms of HoF, 10 year stater, etc....how do they decide what the trade value for the pick is?
Well, what would you be willing to give up for a HoF type of player? Two 1sts? Not that hard tbh
I think most teams use a rating system where each prospect gets a number based on size, speed, athleticism, and many different aspects to his actual on field play...but there are always lots of side notes and in the end the HC and GM have to factor in all the other stuff like production, level of competition, positional value, need, work ethic, love of the game, character, leadership, scheme fit, ect...and make the decision. Because while you might have two guys at the same position both rated as 87.6.....it's all the other stuff that you can't put a number on that truly decides who your draft.So there is probably a general idea of where a guy should be drafted by what his number is, but I doubt any team ranks players by round.
I'm sure. No doubt there is a tier system likely as well.Probably the only time where round comes into play is when they do their interior mock drafts to gauge when a player will be taken.
but I doubt any scouting guy worth their salt calls any kid coming out "HoF, 10 year starter". Too many unknowns that you cannot quantify.
Apparently most do. Besides what makes more sense"Boss, I think he's a top 10 guy" What does that even mean? He's a top 10 guy IN THIS DRAFT? Or top 10 in any draft?"Boss, I think he's a guy who can be an All Pro player at his position" You know what that means. You know that value.
IF they speak in terms of HoF, 10 year stater, etc....how do they decide what the trade value for the pick is?
Well, what would you be willing to give up for a HoF type of player? Two 1sts? Not that hard tbh
Apparently most do b/c two nobody's on twitter are talking about it? Im not saying teams dont look at the draft differently than we do, but for them to say a guy isnt a "First round guy" or a "third round guy" is a little preposterous. Its still the system in which they work.My point on the second part is no scout projects someone as a hall of famer before they step foot on an NFL field. You may thing a guy is special or has that "it" factor, but that's much different.
but I doubt any scouting guy worth their salt calls any kid coming out "HoF, 10 year starter". Too many unknowns that you cannot quantify.
Apparently most do. Besides what makes more sense"Boss, I think he's a top 10 guy" What does that even mean? He's a top 10 guy IN THIS DRAFT? Or top 10 in any draft?"Boss, I think he's a guy who can be an All Pro player at his position" You know what that means. You know that value.
IF they speak in terms of HoF, 10 year stater, etc....how do they decide what the trade value for the pick is?
Well, what would you be willing to give up for a HoF type of player? Two 1sts? Not that hard tbh
Apparently most do b/c two nobody's on twitter are talking about it? Im not saying teams dont look at the draft differently than we do, but for them to say a guy isnt a "First round guy" or a "third round guy" is a little preposterous. Its still the system in which they work.My point on the second part is no scout projects someone as a hall of famer before they step foot on an NFL field. You may thing a guy is special or has that "it" factor, but that's much different.
Two nobody's?One guy who works for NFL.com for Draft Coverage who was a FORMER SCOUT FOR EAGLES AND RAVENS and one guy who covers the Patriots for ESPN Insider. I'll take their credibility over your zero experience and imagination lmao
