- Struggles in close games
- Atrocious clock management
- Questionable player personel choices
- Endless penalties
- Responsible for late game injuries
- Conservative in key moments
- Stoic, emotionless
- Doesn't work the refs for bad calls
Coen is elite but he's had a few deer in a headlight games. I'd imagine Coen is responsible for player personel on offense so him going White over Bucky was a disasterous choice considering he can have them both out there at the same time instead of players like Ko Kieft, backup TEs, WR6, etc
Dallas blitzed and Coen didn't use the screen game. He can't read Baker well... Doesn't adjust to how Baker is playing. Needs to learn
Bowles has to show more progress as a HC because it seems like he has already peaked. We will see what happens the next two games.
Don't forget lack of coaching fundaments(missed tackles)....Dungy used that term often when things weren't going well(Bowles loves to cite lack of communication) but his defenses often bounced back after a bad game..I'd like to see updated information on missed tackles this season. I tried to find that information last night after the game, but was only able to find up to the bye week which according to that credited TB leading the league through the first 3 games with 41 and then had 45 more during the 4 game losing streak leading up to the bye.(not sure about the 3 games in between ) which at that time led the league by a decent margin.
Todd Bowles only redeeming quality is his team doesn't quit on him. That's it
He lacks fire...I'd like to see him go ballistic on the sideline just once after a poor play/call...I'm so sick of them panning to a shot of him after a bad play with that stupid smug half smile on his face.
He lacks fire...I'd like to see him go ballistic on the sideline just once after a poor play/call...I'm so sick of them panning to a shot of him after a bad play with that stupid smug half smile on his face.
Yup I cannot fucking stand it. I don't need a diva like Siriani but some fire and emotion and working the refs would go a long way.
Yep. BA would wear refs out, I don’t see any pregame/in-game lobbying by Bowles. The lack of emotion is likely a preference thing, many had the same reaction regarding Dungy’s lack of emotion - used to drive me nutz. However, Dungy’s D was often just a machine. Sure, everyone just did their jobs - but he had elite talent at every position - specifically FOR the scheme (until that talent got old, and then the scheme lost its punch). He ran the same scheme in Indy after his Bucs melted down - and it was pretty darn good - but then Peyton Manning pretty much eliminated the need for a perfect defensive roster.He lacks fire...I'd like to see him go ballistic on the sideline just once after a poor play/call...I'm so sick of them panning to a shot of him after a bad play with that stupid smug half smile on his face.
Yup I cannot fucking stand it. I don't need a diva like Siriani but some fire and emotion and working the refs would go a long way.
I can more clearly see a transition in our future. We may win out, but I think it’s coming, regardless.
Yes, his players don’t quit on him. So he has leadership, just think the exotic blitzes take too much away from the secondary against really good teams. It helps to get the talent you need because you’re running defense no one else does, but everyone is running some form of a 3/4 right now and we have too many competitors for the type of players needed for Bowles defense.
Nothing like a punch in the mouth to clear your head. Got mine last night.
To expand on what you said Tiger, Dungy’s D in Indy didn’t have to be a world beater because of Manning et a(totally agre with you)l…we have the same coach tutoring our offensive players here, and if we even had a middling defense we would likely be in the realm of Detroit,Philly etc.
While I believe some of that is because of cap limitations (due to Brady dead cap impact), the defensive draft misses/failures are well documented here, and can’t be overstated. Especially when you’ve had just enough success to keep you at that bottom of the draft rounds, you HAVE to hit on a majority of the defensive picks.To expand on what you said Tiger, Dungy’s D in Indy didn’t have to be a world beater because of Manning et a(totally agre with you)l…we have the same coach tutoring our offensive players here, and if we even had a middling defense we would likely be in the realm of Detroit,Philly etc.
The lack of available talent/depth at edge/ILB/CB was evident ALL throughout that game last night.
I doubt Carolina or NOLA will be able to mimic the same level of determination & passion - but we’ll definitely see it in the playoffs. Depends on IF Washington can put us back into the playoff picture - but I’m too close to the frustration and disappointment from last night to think as rationally as I should.
It was only one game against a defense that came to play. Our d-line guys fought, but good teams have to be able to pull off games like that when we HAVE to have a win.
I am tempering this as I have had Dallas marked as a loss all season, but I had us winning one of the Atlanta games too - so we HAD to win that game last night - and we did not.
Denver and Dallas figured out our offense and exposed our defense.
I'm not arguing that Bowles doesn't have good clock management skills. But just for the record, he did make the right call on the timeouts at the end of the game, letting the clock run to the two minute warning on 3rd and 6 and leaving the chance for an incomplete pass to stop the clock and save a timeout. It turns out that they completed the pass short of the sticks and the Bucs had to use the TO anyway, but it was an example of good clock management by Bowles. They did get the ball back and had time to win the game had it not been for the fumble.
I'm not arguing that Bowles doesn't have good clock management skills. But just for the record, he did make the right call on the timeouts at the end of the game, letting the clock run to the two minute warning on 3rd and 6 and leaving the chance for an incomplete pass to stop the clock and save a timeout. It turns out that they completed the pass short of the sticks and the Bucs had to use the TO anyway, but it was an example of good clock management by Bowles. They did get the ball back and had time to win the game had it not been for the fumble.
Debatable. It cost 10 seconds. But you also have the flex of a time out which makes Dallas call the play a certain way... Which by the way was the perfect call... A screen vs Bowles overloaded blitz.
I'm not sure is Vea did his backside chase by design or instinct but Bowles yet again came with an obvious blitz that was so easy to counter.
The lack of emotion is likely a preference thing, many had the same reaction regarding Dungy’s lack of emotion - used to drive me nutz. However, Dungy’s D was often just a machine.
Dungy never bothered me because the defense was so dominant and, to Bowles point, most always had solid fundamentals and discipline. And, of course, loaded with talented and very vocal leadership that is completely missing from this defense.
Bowles "lack of emotion" is sort of a part of laundry list that people forget (or look past) when the Bucs are winning and pull out like a Seinfeld Festivus episode when we lose
Yesterday seemed a bit like a signature loss for Bowles and the team. As Fire likes to say sometimes, that may bit of recency bias on my part because if we are seeing the end of the Bowles era its probably the Falcons loss(es) that were the most direct cause. Still though, yesterday had a lot of elements that people will recall if/when they move on from Bowles.
The issue with Bowles isn't that he's some net neutral coach that lets players play and just does his role etc.
He's had his fingerprints all over key losses.
Sometimes it's clock management, sometimes it's scheme, sometimes it's adjustments, sometimes it's preparation.
It's never all 4, but it's usually 2 of the 4.
If you wanna be stoic on the sideline you better be prepared.
It's also tough for me because I'm a Ducks fan and it's night and day in terms of fire, prep, scheme, adjustments, ownership, risk, etc. Lanning vs Bowles
sometimes it's scheme, sometimes it's adjustments,
One of the ironic things from yesterdays game is that the Bucs D was hammered by Lamb BUT he was beating the press MAN coverage that many on the board have been calling for. Double-edged sword just like blitzing.
One of the sad things from yesterday's game is that LVD was beaten in COVERAGE a lot. End of an era there too.
Up above you say that Bowles ONLY redeeming trait is that the players dont quit on him. Thats a bit much, but even if that is the belief i"not quitting" is sport of undercut by the fact that same players who do not quit also don't deliver in games they should win. Thats on youth BUT ALSO on coaching.
It was easy to call this game a trap game once we beat the Chargers because that is legitimately a trend with this team
