Man, I can not stress to you how worried I am about losing this guy. He is carrying Todd Bowles big time ! Losing two prime offensive scoring players and still making the offense tick is amazing . Yes, he has some small flaws, but what offensive coordinator doesn’t . Do you guys think he has head coach potential already ?
I am sure he can bring in a good DC and change the awful defensive scheme of allowing the middle of the field to be wide open every play . For myself, I am fully invested in Coen !! I trust him and think he would make a good head coach here in Tampa . ( for the long term)
I’ve been saying that the last 4 weeks. Without Coen this year we’re 2 and 7. And we’re not in last night’s game. His offense played really well against an excellent defense. Big trouble if we lose Coen and we have Bowles and a new OC next year.
Funny the different perspectives.
If the Bucs fall short this year, but still compete, the Front Office is likely to look back at that game as a reason to keep Bowles while they continue to rebuild.
the Red Board mostly wanted to bet the farm on a Chiefs blowout… sees it as a reason to banish Bowles!
Coen is the reason to celebrate (or worry) on a night where his QB put up 200 yds passing and his RBs were under 100
The odd reality of sports. Is a Koetter scenario brewing?
His offense played really well against an excellent defense
agree
many reasons to be impressed. Oh to have that running game over the last few years
I supported Bowles until last night (calling a TO to keep time on the clock for Mahomes, and not going for 2). He’s terrible at game management, he brings no energy, and now his defense sucks.
Pull a Koetter and make Coen head coach.
I have to say, as much as I admire Todd Bowles for what his defense accomplished in the Super Bowl run, what he did with a team everyone wrote off last season - taking that team two games deep into the playoffs….I’m starting to get irritated with the lack of growth as a HC.
NOT calling a TO in that playoff game against Detroit, to clock management issues, to NOT having a killer instinct against a team your offense just marched down the field and answered with a score with seconds on the clock, on the road, with an opportunity to show trust in your QB & OC that bailed him out all game long, but decides to go for XP… just starting to show that there is no growth at being a HC - he’s still operating as a DC…playing not to lose instead of trying to see if his offense can stick a knife in an opponent for a chance to win…
How can you spend so much time with Arians “no risk it, no biscuit” mentality - and still not apply it?
Its starting to get to me.
For me, it’s not his ability to motivate, get players to buy in and get his depleted defense to play over their heads…nor his scheming…it’s those critical decisions when the game is on the line that are beginning to wear me down.
I know it’s in retrospect after losing the coin toss to Mahomes - but I would have been ok with losing that game if we’d gone for two and missed. It would have shown me that growth as a head coach I’ve been waiting to see.
Ive said it elsewhere this morning, I’m not off the Todd Bowles boat yet, but if something doesn’t change soon, I can see that boat starting to set sail…
We needed to steal that one, and the opportunity was right there, and the offense was hot…
(And, I don’t want to lose Coen).
For me, it’s not his ability to motivate, get players to buy in and get his depleted defense to play over their heads…nor his scheming…it’s those critical decisions when the game is on the line that are beginning to wear me down.
Good post
100% on board with promoting with Coen. Bowles is a good guy but he simply cannot be a HC in the NFL
it’s those critical decisions when the game is on the line that are beginning to wear me down.
This. All. Day. This.
Bowles has shown us who he is... It's that simple.
He has no upside.
His scheme is antiquated.
Coen is the best OC we ever had. No clue if he would make good HC, but you can't be much worse than Bowles. So give it a go!!!
Leaving all those valuable seconds on the clock, and not going for 2, two critical mistakes back to back. How many times have we all seen KC taken into OT, and they win the toss, and Mahomes leads his team down the field against a tired defense to win the game. I knew as soon as the Bucs kicked the XP that the game was over and KC would win, it was frikkin inevitable. As previous posters noted, Bowles is gutless and plays not to lose as opposed to winning. Isn't that the objective, to win the game? What do you think Dan Campbell would have done in the same situation. I'm good with making Coen HC and showing Bowles the door.
Again Bowles has shown us who he is...
Dan Lanning is a coach that believes in his players and takes risk even if it doesn't work out. It's about identity.
We've multiple times failed on taking a risk late in a game and I still love him for the aggressive play call.
If Bowles did it and we failed I'd still celebrate it.
Instead we watched soft zone for 6 minutes and a 1 yard td on a gassed defense.
