We're so fucked.
To keep fucking Bowles.
I just can't...
not sure about that because Kacy is sort of Bowles Part II and coaches a great unit.
mine they are just letting him test the market but maybe he also knows Bowles is out
What's hard to understand is that yes, there are only 32 HC jobs in the NFL, but why do some of these young up-and-comers put themselves into such bad situations?
Money and scarcity of the job.
The other bit to that is it's valuable learning situation...If they succeed in their first stop as HC then they shine even brighter, but if they fail they know they can go back to a coordinator position for a few years restore their image and try again in a few years with the knowledge they gained their first go around....plus with buyouts etc now they're almost guaranteed a golden parachute of sorts if they're fired before their contract expires
Not sure if everyone caught this yesterday but JBF brings it up
"Yesterday, [the Times] published a story headlined, “Bucs Preparing For Liam Coen To Be Offered Jaguars Job.” (POSTED HERE)
Later in the day, however, that headline mysteriously changed to, “Bucs’ Liam Coen Emerging As Strongest Candidate For Jaguars Job.”
Also deleted from the article was a strong statement by reporter Rick Stroud. “The Bucs are bracing for Coen to be offered the Jaguars head coaching job, possibly as early as Wednesday when he interviews for the second time with the club,” he wrote before it vanished."
someone said something to the Times
That and the Kacy Rodgers interview make me wonder about a HC switch
BOOOOOOOOMMM!
"Buccaneers offensive coordinator Liam Coen is taking himself out of the running for the Jaguars’ head coaching job to stay in Tampa on a new contract that now will place him amongst the highest-paid coordinators in the NFL, per sources. Bucs are keeping their OC.
Not sure if everyone caught this yesterday but JBF brings it up
"Yesterday, [the Times] published a story headlined, “Bucs Preparing For Liam Coen To Be Offered Jaguars Job.” (POSTED HERE)
Later in the day, however, that headline mysteriously changed to, “Bucs’ Liam Coen Emerging As Strongest Candidate For Jaguars Job.”
Also deleted from the article was a strong statement by reporter Rick Stroud. “The Bucs are bracing for Coen to be offered the Jaguars head coaching job, possibly as early as Wednesday when he interviews for the second time with the club,” he wrote before it vanished."
someone said something to the Times
That and the Kacy Rodgers interview make me wonder about a HC switch
No switch
Probably Coen's agent telling the Times to put the brakes on, if ADAM SCHEFLER's reporting is correct (hopefully)
What's hard to understand is that yes, there are only 32 HC jobs in the NFL, but why do some of these young up-and-comers put themselves into such bad situations? The Jags are a crap franchise going nowhere. The Bucs are just a few players away from being a serious contender for NFC supremacy. I agree with those here who have said Coen should go the Johnson route and stay for another year or two. His stock will continue to rise, and the opportunity to achieve something special with the Bucs is way better than with the Jags. Just my $0.02 for what its worth.
apparently its worth a lot
you were spot on
Coen is as good as gone. After Canales dipped, this dude is x20 better
I'm expecting the worst this year.
We really keeping mediocre Bowles and losing an offensive genius. We're in deep shit
You were right on both accounts. The Glazers screwed the pooch on this one.
we dont know what conversations were had in an effort to keep Coen.
was it possible that Licht/Ownership tried to talk Bowles into retirement/a front office position ala Arians and he balked at it
maybe when that backfired, they offered the "financial apology" in the way of Bowles contract extension?
they were in a tough spot because even though Bowles defense has sucked, the team has shown progress in the terms of wins each and every year. I think from a public perception issue, they didnt want to face backlash from firing a black head coach who has just won 3 division titles in a row, 2 of which post the Brady era. If you dont think they would have had backflish, they most certainly would have. And we can pretend that would not have been an issue but given the Brian Flores situation, the Bucs certainly would have been viewed in a bad light despite everyone knowing Bowles is not a good head coach, regardless of race.
Now fast forward to this year where the Bucs have collapsed with a 2-7 record post a 5-1 start and it looks like the Bucs can now justify moving on from the mediocrity of Bowles, particularly if they miss the playoffs.
Coen looking on his way to hoisting a damn Lombardy so yeah not looking great particularly with the Bucs not backfilling him properly but just saying Bucs were in a tough spot there. Even with future coaches, would be tough to attract coaches if making the playoffs for one of the worst franchises in NFL (win % wise) isn't good enough.
Bucky is the bell cow clearly.
I love Bucky to death but he is not a bell cow. He's a lead back but he cannot survive an NFL seasoning carrying the ball 25 times a game.
Rams are about to learn this lesson with Kyren Williams and that's why they drafted Corum.
Bucky should be in the 15-20 touches per game range.
White 10 touches.
Tucker 3-5 touches.
Oo got this one too. Fun
Bucky is the bell cow clearly.
I love Bucky to death but he is not a bell cow. He's a lead back but he cannot survive an NFL seasoning carrying the ball 25 times a game.
Rams are about to learn this lesson with Kyren Williams and that's why they drafted Corum.
Bucky should be in the 15-20 touches per game range.
White 10 touches.
Tucker 3-5 touches.
Oo got this one too. Fun
i cant imagine i said this lol? quoting JC5100?
Bucky is the bell cow clearly.
I love Bucky to death but he is not a bell cow. He's a lead back but he cannot survive an NFL seasoning carrying the ball 25 times a game.
Rams are about to learn this lesson with Kyren Williams and that's why they drafted Corum.
Bucky should be in the 15-20 touches per game range.
White 10 touches.
Tucker 3-5 touches.
Oo got this one too. Fun
i cant imagine i said this lol? quoting JC5100?
Hey we all make mistakes
