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Posted by: @firebowles2023

I'll just reiterate that Bowles is 100% to blame for Godwin injury for not pulling the starters.

Correct.

Posted by: @firebowles2023

The trainers are to blame for having Evans come back a game too early vs a non-conference opponent instead of waiting for Atlanta. His injury was still prone to re-injury. 

He shouldn't have even been cleared to play that week. He was DNP the entire week, with a LP (walk through) the day before. 

After his initial TD catch, it was CLEAR that he re-aggravated it. Should've never been in to start, and most certainly shouldn't have been in after that TD. That's on the coaching staff. 

Even when Baker got dinged up last year against the Giants, and Todd didn't pull him in a blowout; his response showed that he simply doesn't get it (and that's after the Godwin injury).

And, looking at this season, it's obvious that Goedeke was rushed back and had no business being back out there.

Posted by: @firebowles2023

And you're welcome to think different but you're just wrong on this one. 

And again, you'd be correct. 

And, again, it's not a "troll" to blame the coach on that. 

To suggest so, simply shows your argument is weak, and it's nothing more than waving the white flag in surrender. 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:06 pm
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No one is ever going to accuse our fanbase as football astute. 

^

Exhibit A

I have an idea.  Let’s discuss which OC is better, Coen or Grizzard…

 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:07 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @theknees

No one is ever going to accuse our fanbase as football astute. 

^

Exhibit A

I have an idea.  Let’s discuss which OC is better, Coen or Grizzard…

 

Okay. 

If Coen magically became our OC tomorrow, we're a better team. 

And, that's not a knock on Grizz. 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:09 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

IF the the grouped voices here (you and Biggs) were right by virtue of numbers..the Bucs..

And, you, have these gems:

  • Evans isn't a HOF'er
  • Evans isn't a true WR1
  • Brady didn't change the culture here
  • Lefty was a great OC

The difference is, your list is 100% accurate.

 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:15 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

another good comparison point

 

Coen clearly has a talent for run game, but his run game just put up 3.6 YPC against a 4.0 YPC defense

 

point:  the NFL has a lot of variability.

Ugly game but they won and have 5 wins so... He's doing something right.

The average is a little skewed by the volume of carries they had from the 1... They ran the ball pretty effectively despite losing BT mid game and no Hunter so nothing to keep the defense honest.

 

 

yes I mean good coach but if you looked at a game where you might expect their run game to pour it on this is one. But, the NFL is tough to predict because so many variables 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:41 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

The only injury I'm blaming Bowles for is Godwin

I disagree but respect your point of view in part because you're not trolling every injury as Bowles fault lmao.   


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:46 pm
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And, again, it's not a "troll" to blame the coach on that. 

How about McMillan ? Lmao

DH, you don't own your own shit? You've blamed Bowles for Evans, Godwin, McMillan ... right? 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:49 pm
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it's obvious that Goedeke was rushed back and had no business being back out there.

Bowles? 

lol


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:51 pm
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How about McMillan ? Lmao

DH, you don't own your own shit?

Where did I blame Bowles for McMillan's injury?


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:53 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

another good comparison point

 

Coen clearly has a talent for run game, but his run game just put up 3.6 YPC against a 4.0 YPC defense

 

point:  the NFL has a lot of variability.

Ugly game but they won and have 5 wins so... He's doing something right.

The average is a little skewed by the volume of carries they had from the 1... They ran the ball pretty effectively despite losing BT mid game and no Hunter so nothing to keep the defense honest.

 

 

yes I mean good coach but if you looked at a game where you might expect their run game to pour it on this is one. But, the NFL is tough to predict because so many variables 

 

Coen is doing a good job but there's a big difference between being an offensive coordinator and a head coach. 

Either way he's winning so, like Bowles, that has to carry weight 

 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 10:57 pm
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How about McMillan ? Lmao

DH, you don't own your own shit?

Where did I blame Bowles for McMillan's injury?

 

lmao

 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 11:00 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

IF the the grouped voices here (you and Biggs) were right by virtue of numbers..the Bucs..

And, you, have these gems:

  • Evans isn't a HOF'er
  • Evans isn't a true WR1
  • Brady didn't change the culture here
  • Lefty was a great OC

Just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber, you go and do this ...

 

And TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!

 

 

great movie!

 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 11:02 pm
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How about McMillan ? Lmao

DH, you don't own your own shit?

Where did I blame Bowles for McMillan's injury?

 

lmao

 

Should be easy for you to provide an example of where I specifically blamed Todd for McMillan's injury. 

Can't own your shit?

 


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 11:02 pm
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Daniel's just destroyed his elbow...down 4 scores? 5?


 
Posted : Nov. 2, 2025 11:03 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @bucsbits

How about McMillan ? Lmao

DH, you don't own your own shit?

Where did I blame Bowles for McMillan's injury?

 

lmao

 

Should be easy for you to provide an example of where I specifically blamed Todd for McMillan's injury. 

Can't own your shit?

 

 

how about you go back and your bullshit junior and find maybe the 3rd or 4th time back that you were ... um... not angry ... about the Cove lmao

 

its there you know it 

 

 

 


 
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