games that were not winnable.
Not according to actual HC's found in a 39 second search of The Google
poof
This rhetorical question is more a lesson in psychology
does everyone at least agree that IF the game is winnable Godwin is properly playing because he wants to win?
99.8% win probability
this ^^ has taken on a life of its own . . its a fact . . . objective truth!
What happens to that number if Godwin takes it to the house? An onside kick. I think just under a 5% recovery rate under the new rule, so that means . . .
Classy Quinn
"Head coach Dan Quinn was asked about Daniels being on the field in his postgame press conference and said the injury did not happen on a designed run for the quarterback and “if we run it 50 times, it’s either hand off or a throw 50 times.” On Monday, though, Quinn said he erred by not paying enough attention to the possibility of Daniels scrambling on Sunday night.
“I know many of you have been asking about the thought process of Jayden being in the game in that situation,” Quinn said. “I get that. I’ve been thinking about it honestly nonstop too. For me, the answer is ‘I missed it.’ . . . Of course he could scramble. It’s Jayden, it’s what he’s special at. That’s 100 percent on me.”
This rhetorical question is more a lesson in psychology
does everyone at least agree that IF the game is winnable Godwin is properly playing because he wants to win?
It's more so that the Ravens emptied the bench and we decided to try and score a miracle TD with no Evans, then get a miracle onside kick. Then kick a miracle off to force overtime... Then expect the defense that got shredded all game to get a miracle stop.
The only reason we got the ball back is because Ravens emptied the bench.
I just don’t get why we’re re-litigating this after a year?All context is lost in this argument. I don’t think you blame a coach for leaving a player in the game you’re trying to win (even against the odds) who obviously WANTS to play.
So you don’t believe Quinn holds any responsibility for Daniels’ injury? The context is both players were injured playing in games that were not winnable.
Sometimes the HC has to be the HC and protect his players that were already battling injury and/or returning from injury.
Otherwise, why play? Didnwe do that with Mike Evans this season? Is anyone blaming Bowles for the 4 come from behind victories this year, one in which Evans got hurt flying to make a legit run to help his team win - while chasing a legit chance to make history?
How many of those games were at 99.8% win probability at the time of injury? Again, that’s the context. Not that simply a player got injured while playing.
I didn’t hear anyone make the claim that all 17 guys on the injury report prior to Seattle & San Fran - were Bowles fault? It doesn’t logically track that some are the coaches fault, but some are not?
I just don’t get why we’re re-litigating this after a year?
Mainly, because of one leghumping poster.
I didn’t hear anyone make the claim that all 17 guys on the injury report prior to Seattle & San Fran - were Bowles fault? It doesn’t logically track that some are the coaches fault, but some are not?
You’re correct. You haven’t heard anybody make the argument that every injury is the HC’s fault. Obviously, that would be foolish, as guys get injured playing football. However, there are definitely instances where the HC has had guys on the field that shouldn’t have been on the field, for a variety of reasons - like Godwin in a game that was all but over.
Let’s take Bowles out of the equation, as that seems to be the sticking point here. Does Dan Quinn have any responsibility for Jaden Daniel’s being on the field and getting injured in that game situation? He, and the overwhelming majority of the football world, seem to think so. What about you?
You haven’t heard anybody make the argument that every injury is the HC’s fault. Obviously, that would be foolish
Oh my
I just don’t get why we’re re-litigating this after a year?
Mainly, because I was forced to come in and start calling people names. I wouldn't have done it but I can't control it I was forced to drop the names!
I didn’t hear anyone make the claim that all 17 guys on the injury report prior to Seattle & San Fran - were Bowles fault? It doesn’t logically track that some are the coaches fault, but some are not?
You’re correct. You haven’t heard anybody make the argument that every injury is the HC’s fault. Obviously, that would be foolish, as guys get injured playing football. However, there are definitely instances where the HC has had guys on the field that shouldn’t have been on the field, for a variety of reasons - like Godwin in a game that was all but over.
Let’s take Bowles out of the equation, as that seems to be the sticking point here. Does Dan Quinn have any responsibility for Jaden Daniel’s being on the field and getting injured in that game situation? He, and the overwhelming majority of the football world, seem to think so. What about you?
Who knew, Biggs. Hope you get some help with that. Nice guy like you just trying to talk some football. What a shame
I just don’t get why we’re re-litigating this after a year?
Charity work for Big Brothers Big Sisters!
;-)
I agree that statistically its unlikely and it may be in single digits BUT teams keep playing when there is a a chance.
So, are you saying you would've applauded Bowles for four kneel downs at 1:48?
Can you name another game where the behind NFL team did that only down two scores?
It wasn't single digits, it was a fractional.
With 6:32 left in the game, it was 41-18.
The Buc's had less than a 0.01% chance of winning that game. The only time that changed, was at the 1:58 mark, when it jumped up to 0.02%
There was no chance.
After losing Evans to what was clearly going to be a multi-game injury, he should've pulled the starting skill players. Give the backup some reps, run the ball, etc.
There's clearly 2 camps within this debate and neither of them are going to budge from their point of view.
What I do know, is that we've ALL (as a fan base) have been robbed of the last few years of Godwin's prime. And, as it looks now, whenever the hell he does comes back; he won't be the Godwin of old.
The Buc's had less than a 0.01% chance of winning that game. The only time that changed, was at the 1:58 mark, when it jumped up to 0.02%
There was no chance.
Where did you get those figures?
are you saying you would've applauded Bowles for four kneel downs at 1:48?
Can you name another game where the behind NFL team did that only down two scores?
Not even .01% of the posters woukd answer either question
hmmm
bunch of gamblers too