This was the absolute worst call I can ever remember. It still makes me angry to this very day.
I hear ya. What's worse is that Heemy got flagged for his reaction. How else is one to react to something like this? I view that as a giant F**K YOU, as if the ruling on the field wasn't one already.
missed calls? . . . surepressure to make calls . . . um, maybea conspiracy? . . may be time for new medsThe inherent flaw with nearly all conspiracy theories is that they deny human nature. Human beings make mistakes, change loyalties, have different motives and different levels of commitment, etc. The notion that a bunch of people associated with the NFL sat around in a room and planned to throw games is far-fetched, to say the least, but the notion that those same people could do that with no one discovering the conspiracy, no one breaking the "circle of trust" etc. . . . . well, that's absurd.
missed calls? . . . surepressure to make calls . . . um, maybea conspiracy? . . may be time for new medsThe inherent flaw with nearly all conspiracy theories is that they deny human nature. Human beings make mistakes, change loyalties, have different motives and different levels of commitment, etc. The notion that a bunch of people associated with the NFL sat around in a room and planned to throw games is far-fetched, to say the least, but the notion that those same people could do that with no one discovering the conspiracy, no one breaking the "circle of trust" etc. . . . . well, that's absurd.
Kinda like this? Different sport but same idea. http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=2XmeA5VmhX4&and=em While I do agree with you to an extent, and you could be right, that point of view seems like a bit of a cop out. If the refs were pressured to make certain calls, why would they risk losing their great job and being publicly crucified by the NFL and media by exposing it?
missed calls? . . . surepressure to make calls . . . um, maybea conspiracy? . . may be time for new medsThe inherent flaw with nearly all conspiracy theories is that they deny human nature. Human beings make mistakes, change loyalties, have different motives and different levels of commitment, etc. The notion that a bunch of people associated with the NFL sat around in a room and planned to throw games is far-fetched, to say the least, but the notion that those same people could do that with no one discovering the conspiracy, no one breaking the "circle of trust" etc. . . . . well, that's absurd.
Kinda like this? Different sport but same idea. http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=2XmeA5VmhX4&and=em While I do agree with you to an extent, and you could be right, that point of view seems like a bit of a cop out. If the refs were pressured to make certain calls, why would they risk losing their great job and being publicly crucified by the NFL and media by exposing it?
Right, that NBA event was not a league-driven conspiracy but it illustrates the point well. a ref and several high school friend conspire to make money by using insider info/calls etc. It only involved 3 or 4 people and yet they were not able to keep it private, it was investigated by the FBI, reported to the NBA, reported in a paper etc. Further after the ref was arrested, in an effort to save himself, he made a claim about the NBA .. . that is what human beings do .. they mess up, they cant keep quite, their "conspiracy" by definition interacts with others outside the conspiracy etc.That is why most conspiracy theories are nonsenseas to why a ref would risk his job or being crucified, the first conspirator to come forward is a whistleblower. why would someone inside the circle of trust blow the whistle? you name it, money, personal issues, etc.
I was referring more to the fact that the ref no longer had anything to lose, and that's why he made the allegations. But yea, it's possible he did it to save face. All I know is that that game 6 was the first time that the thought of sports being rigged popped into my head. Nobody can deny how biased the refs were in that game. And it does make sense that the NBA would rather have the Lakers in the finals than the Kings, the benefits are undeniable. In the end, it is a business, and the goal of a business is to maximize profits. People underestimate the amount of greed that is out there. I hate to think all sports are rigged, but as a fan I have the right to question it. I have dedicated countless time and money to my favourite teams, and I hate the thought of them not succeeding because it is not in the best interest of their leagues. I can't really see how the Seahawks beating the 49ers would increase profits or ratings for the NFL by that much, but still, this conspiracy video has raised some eyebrows. I would love to hear an explanation for the whole play clock thing. I'm not gonna hold my breath though haha.
Does the conspiracy video ever mention how Seattle had more penalties, and penalty yards? I was trying to focus, but I was dozing off after 9 minutes of watching a 49er fan complain.
Does the conspiracy video ever mention how Seattle had more penalties, and penalty yards? I was trying to focus, but I was dozing off after 9 minutes of watching a 49er fan complain.
Yes.
A couple of things on the SF/SEA clock issues... There is such a thing as a 25 second play clock. On the 4th and 7 play, they probably had to reset the play clock to switch the "K ball" when SEA went for it...The SF delay penalty happened after their QB ran out of bounds. There was probably a reset to 25 when they decided it took too long for them to chase and spot the ball.I could be wrong...
I was referring more to the fact that the ref no longer had anything to lose, and that's why he made the allegations. But yea, it's possible he did it to save face.
he did it because the NBA sought $1,000,000
People act like conspiracies have to involve tons of people and have all sorts of complicated motives.Refs could rig a game for something as simple as gambling.Nah.... that's never happened in professional sports.
Does the conspiracy video ever mention how Seattle had more penalties, and penalty yards? I was trying to focus, but I was dozing off after 9 minutes of watching a 49er fan complain.
Don't just look at the totals. Look at what kinds of penalties they were. Nothing was called against Seattle in the 2nd half that wasn't completely obvious and had to be called. SF got the short end of most of the 2nd half calls. Holding and Unnecessary roughness calls should be called evenly. Either flag both teams or let them play. That didn't happen.SF 1 - Offensive Holding - Wilhoite - Judgement call2 - False Start - Davis - OBVIOUS 3 - Defensive Offsides - Smith - OBVIOUS4 - Unnecessary roughness - Whitner
Judgement call - BSX - Offensive Holding - declined - Judgement call5 - Unnecessary roughness - Rogers
Judgement call - BSX - Defensive Offsides - declined ---- was blown dead. Whistle. But play resumes?6 - Offensive Holding - Kilgore - Judgement call7 - Delay of Game - Kaepernick
Not 40 secondsSEA1 - Offensive Holding - Giacomini - Judgement call2 - Defensive Holding - Sherman - Judgement call3 - False Start - Kearse - OBVIOUS4 - False Start - Unger - OBVIOUSX - Running into the kicker - declined - OBVIOUS5 - Intentional Grounding - Wilson - OBVIOUS6 - False Start - Bailey - OBVIOUS7 - Offensive Pass Interference - Kearse - OBVIOUS8 - Taunting - Sherman - OBVIOUSThe fact that Seattle only had one offensive holding call is a joke in itself.
