Kick over Robert Hainsey to left guard
Smith, Hainsey, Jensen, Mason, and Wirfs. A boost to the offensive line could be a huge difference maker if he proves to be effective.
I think Hainsey has played very well this season. Definitely encouraging moving forward with him at LG or C.
But obviously getting Jensen back is a good thing. There was clearly a reason why they were waiting for any concrete timeframe as to when he was coming back, i.e. they weren't completely sure.
Great news, I just hope its not to late...Jensen probably wouldn't get a start till 1st round of the playoffs. I am trying to tamper expectations, Fresh off injury and not in "playing shape" I am not sure what we can expect out of him this late. Without a doubt though even for team moral seeing Jensen back could be a nice pop.
Yes, he could be a boost.
if he is healthy and fit enough to perform that helps, obviously. He should also bring much needed leadership and fire.
Agree Jensen provides some some Hope at least!
Anyone know about Goedeke’s status? I know Leverett outperformed him, but any any able bodied lineman that knows the system/ playbook is valuable right now.
Jensen is practicing, but Todd Bowles made comments that sounded as if it's unlikely he'll get back into games even if there's a playoff game. Don't get your hopes up.
Between Jensen, Hainsey, Mason and Leverett you know who the odd man out is? Jensen. Anyone who wants to take Nick Leverett off the field right now isn't paying attention. Leverett has the skills of a 1st round pick, just needs to anchor down better and get more reps. Watch the All-22. He's playing at a high level.
Sorry Jensen lovers but he isn't going to make a dent of a difference and will more than likely be a cap casualty.
Between Jensen, Hainsey, Mason and Leverett you know who the odd man out is? Jensen. Anyone who wants to take Nick Leverett off the field right now isn't paying attention. Leverett has the skills of a 1st round pick, just needs to anchor down better and get more reps. Watch the All-22. He's playing at a high level.
Sorry Jensen lovers but he isn't going to make a dent of a difference and will more than likely be a cap casualty.
while I agree I don’t have high hopes Jensen will be in playing shape for playoffs given he’s been out for 5 months, our offense is scoring 2 touchdowns less a game. A big reason for that is the poor offensive line protection/run blocking (in addition to older Brady and terrible coaching and no Gronk)
so if is true that we have all “studs” on the line or can’t improve, then why isn’t Brady holding onto the ball just a second longer?
Maybe having Jensen back will give Brady the confidence to hold on a bit longer before letting it fly.
Between Jensen, Hainsey, Mason and Leverett you know who the odd man out is? Jensen. Anyone who wants to take Nick Leverett off the field right now isn't paying attention. Leverett has the skills of a 1st round pick, just needs to anchor down better and get more reps. Watch the All-22. He's playing at a high level.
Sorry Jensen lovers but he isn't going to make a dent of a difference and will more than likely be a cap casualty.
while I agree I don’t have high hopes Jensen will be in playing shape for playoffs given he’s been out for 5 months, our offense is scoring 2 touchdowns less a game. A big reason for that is the poor offensive line protection/run blocking (in addition to older Brady and terrible coaching and no Gronk)
so if is true that we have all “studs” on the line or can’t improve, then why isn’t Brady holding onto the ball just a second longer?
your OBVIOUS question - raising something anyone can see with their eyes - makes it clear that JC is just trolling
A truly game fit Jensen is immediately inserted into the lineup. We put a very injured Wirfs back in against AZ.
Between Jensen, Hainsey, Mason and Leverett you know who the odd man out is? Jensen. Anyone who wants to take Nick Leverett off the field right now isn't paying attention. Leverett has the skills of a 1st round pick, just needs to anchor down better and get more reps. Watch the All-22. He's playing at a high level.
Sorry Jensen lovers but he isn't going to make a dent of a difference and will more than likely be a cap casualty.
while I agree I don’t have high hopes Jensen will be in playing shape for playoffs given he’s been out for 5 months, our offense is scoring 2 touchdowns less a game. A big reason for that is the poor offensive line protection/run blocking (in addition to older Brady and terrible coaching and no Gronk)
so if is true that we have all “studs” on the line or can’t improve, then why isn’t Brady holding onto the ball just a second longer?
Didn't say the line was all studs. Just saying if you looked at the Bucs film, without knowing the draft status and salary of the players, you would think #60 was a high pick. Leverett has a stigma against him because he was undrafted and started the year 3rd string. It's a lazy perception. "Oh the Bucs are scoring 14 points less per game, it must be because they're playing backup C and LG". No not at all. You already mentioned no Gronk and terrible coaching. It's not just no Gronk, there was no replacement plan. Otton shouldn't be playing and Brate is 3 weeks away from retirement. I don't even know why he's still playing after being concussed and then carted off the field the next time he played.
Tampa was not a great rushing team since 2020 successes...but still averaged 20 more yards per game on the ground. Being dead last this year has to be a bit of (1) teams not respecting the pass (2) teams expecting the run on first down because Leftwich is a bit autistic (3) poor run b blocking. Can we agree on that?
We were the #1 passing offense since Bruce came here in 2019 and scored 30 pts per game since 2020. We are now at 17. That's due to (1) poor play calling (2) retirements/injuries/mental illness- Arians, Gronk, AB (please dont compare Miller to AB; its like when you compared Luke McCown to Jeff Garcia two decades ago :)), Marpet, Jensen (3) aging Brady (4) offensive line not being as good.
Our offensive line was a big reason for the offensive success. If we dont give Brady time in the pocket or time for plays to develop, that's a big reason for decline in offensive production.
We had retard Leftwich since 2020 as well. I know Arians red lined the play calling but still the team was able to overcome the play calling most of the time and that was due to talent and offensive line play.
Tampa was not a great rushing team since 2020 successes...but still averaged 20 more yards per game on the ground. Being dead last this year has to be a bit of (1) teams not respecting the pass (2) teams expecting the run on first down because Leftwich is a bit autistic (3) poor run b blocking. Can we agree on that?
We were the #1 passing offense since Bruce came here in 2019 and scored 30 pts per game since 2020. We are now at 17. That's due to (1) poor play calling (2) retirements/injuries/mental illness- Arians, Gronk, AB (please dont compare Miller to AB; its like when you compared Luke McCown to Jeff Garcia two decades ago :)), Marpet, Jensen (3) aging Brady (4) offensive line not being as good.
Our offensive line was a big reason for the offensive success. If we dont give Brady time in the pocket or time for plays to develop, that's a big reason for decline in offensive production.
We had retard Leftwich since 2020 as well. I know Arians red lined the play calling but still the team was able to overcome the play calling most of the time and that was due to talent and offensive line play.
Good post
Football is a team sport so all things are related. This is why statistics standing alone can often mislead. Obviously, the Bucs offense would be better (all other things equal) IF the run game and O-line was better
For example, some here argue that we need more play-action. Agreed.
That argument is usually propped up with an argument that you don't have to run well to be effective with PA. That is true, but incomplete (like most stats). A team that runs well AND plays with the lead more often (ie more running opportunity/bias late) is more likely to be MORE OFTEN be in the optimal scenarios for play action (eg 2nd and short, more defenders in box already, playing run out clock with run). Incidentally, that same team should be less likely, GENERALLY, to be in as many high turnover scenarios (e.g., facing 3rd and long, especially when down late) if/when there is a competent passing game as a comp.
In other words, the two obviously comp each other. Our limited PA in the 2nd half of the Bengals game (run 3 times) is PART play calling (especially early in 3rd) and PART situational (down scores in 4th, limited possession). The terrible turnovers in that game doomed us, ne I think on 3rd and long, another with Brady hit while throwing and at least one (two?) just flat on bad play from Brady. You cant win by running more PA (lol) if the situation is such that impact of PA would be minimal to laughable (exaggeration would be down 2 score late in 4th and facing 3rd and 20). You can run more PA by playing good football CONSISTENTLY.
This is a fair point as well:
"We were the #1 passing offense since Bruce came here in 2019 and scored 30 pts per game since 2020. We are now at 17. That's due to (1) poor play calling (2) retirements/injuries/mental illness- Arians, Gronk, AB (please dont compare Miller to AB; its like when you compared Luke McCown to Jeff Garcia two decades ago :)), Marpet, Jensen (3) aging Brady (4) offensive line not being as good."
I would only add that ONE way to see this impact is to think of the team without Gronk and without a fully-healthy Godwin ie limited underneath threat and look at how we were defended. I dont know, but I suspect we would see a lot of zone/shell defenses, which might explain Evans declined numbers. Again, its a team sport so one strong area positively impacts another and the same is true in reverse
Not sure, just impressions
Between Jensen, Hainsey, Mason and Leverett you know who the odd man out is? Jensen. Anyone who wants to take Nick Leverett off the field right now isn't paying attention. Leverett has the skills of a 1st round pick, just needs to anchor down better and get more reps. Watch the All-22. He's playing at a high level.
Sorry Jensen lovers but he isn't going to make a dent of a difference and will more than likely be a cap casualty.
while I agree I don’t have high hopes Jensen will be in playing shape for playoffs given he’s been out for 5 months, our offense is scoring 2 touchdowns less a game. A big reason for that is the poor offensive line protection/run blocking (in addition to older Brady and terrible coaching and no Gronk)
so if is true that we have all “studs” on the line or can’t improve, then why isn’t Brady holding onto the ball just a second longer?
your OBVIOUS question - raising something anyone can see with their eyes - makes it clear that JC is just trolling
A truly game fit Jensen is immediately inserted into the lineup. We put a very injured Wirfs back in against AZ.
No troll. Just watch film. Wirfs is a Hall of Famer and his backup in a fringe NFL player. That's why he rushed back. If you think Jensen is going to come back and make an ounce of difference you're wrong. Hainsey hasn't done anything to say he has to go the bench. Why stunt a 2nd year player's development? Or do you want Hainsey to move to guard and Leverett to the bench? That's fucked up 1000 times over. You want something fun to watch? Watch his All-22. That dude is putting MFers In the dirt and MOVING.
Leverett wasn't even in the discussion with Stinnie/Luke. He may be doing serviceable but are you suggesting we found the answer?
the line that won us a superbowl was Smith, Marpet, Jensen, Cappa, and Wirfs.
We lost both guards. Added Mason to one, move Hainsey to the other and while the line is still a step back, it's much improved from the current line.
