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Posted by: @biggs3535

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We're forgetting we had no money the last 2 years and had to pay the piper. We can actually hvae money now. Bowles was a transition HC who kept this team in the playoffs, not many guys can do that. He also has handpicked 2 head coach OC, I trust that hes able to make a 3rd pick again

Why does a salary cap handcuff excuse Bowles clock managment and lalc of aggression?

Why does he want to rely on the defense when the offense has carried? 

 

There will be those that will make excuses for the poor HC’ing decisions nonstop.

 

 

Fire . . . . it should say something about your position that Biggs -- "Mayfield is sending the RB the wrong way" & "White is RB1" --- quotes you approvingly. 

 

:-)

 

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2025 6:29 pm
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I dont think there is.

Well I do and you're playing devil's advocate which is fine but it has its own version of bias. 

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2025 7:31 pm
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. He needs to play more man . . .

Yes he does. Jam at the line, not soft man coverage when our backups are in because Dean is made of glass.

 

so, this is a great example.

In the playoff game, so back and look and count yourself how many times we are at the line against McLaurin. And it worked, both Dean and McCollum had big man v man stops on McLaurin . .  but then Dean gets hurt and McLaurin scored because now its Josh Hayes covering him STILL IN MAN

 

iNjURiEs dOnT MA tTer

 

late in the game , Bowles even tried to HIDE Hayes by moving him over to the other side . .. 

 

Hayes shouldn't even be active. Injuries of course matter...

But if you know you have Hayes then you probably know it'll be tough to keep them out of Fg range.

So you should go for it on 4th and 2... And play to go up 4... Then see if the defense can keep them out of the end zone instead of of the 30 yard line. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2025 7:34 pm
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know it'll be tough to keep them out of Fg range.

So you should go for it on 4th and 2... And play to go up 4.

or lose the game right there.

I agree with the FG, but I get the other view too.

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2025 8:01 pm
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I dont think there is.

Well I do and you're playing devil's advocate which is fine but it has its own version of bias. 

You’re wrong. He’s not playing devil’s advocate. He’s earnestly making these piss-poor arguments.

 

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2025 8:02 pm
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know it'll be tough to keep them out of Fg range.

So you should go for it on 4th and 2... And play to go up 4.

or lose the game right there.

I agree with the FG, but I get the other view too.

Nah, aggressive play calling wins. It's what Washington did to advance as far as they did.

If you don't convert there you try to get a stop.

Either way you have to get a stop. 

 

 
Posted : Jan. 31, 2025 9:49 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Coen "we have learn how to not lose games. I've learned that from the Rams and other great organizations"

Meaning finding a way to lose winnable games...

Notice how he didn't say the Bucs?

Bowles was a master of finding ways to lose. 

Veiled shot...

 

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2025 12:01 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Coen "we have learn how to not lose games. I've learned that from the Rams and other great organizations"

Meaning finding a way to lose winnable games...

Notice how he didn't say the Bucs?

Bowles was a master of finding ways to lose. 

Veiled shot...

 

It wasn't very subtle. I guarantee he was frustrated with Bowles down the stretch.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2025 2:24 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

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Posted by: @bucsbits

I dont think there is.

Well I do and you're playing devil's advocate which is fine but it has its own version of bias. 

You’re wrong. He’s not playing devil’s advocate. He’s earnestly making these piss-poor arguments.

 

Y'all wanna keep your pissing match going... And that's your call but I'm over it. We've had our differences in the past but I'd rather just move forward as fellow Buc fans and not dig into each other constantly.

*Rides off on high horse* 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2025 2:27 pm
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piss-poor arguments.

 

“ESPN analytics are facts.”

 

:-)

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2025 2:53 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Posted by: @bucsbits

I dont think there is.

Well I do and you're playing devil's advocate which is fine but it has its own version of bias. 

You’re wrong. He’s not playing devil’s advocate. He’s earnestly making these piss-poor arguments.

 

Y'all wanna keep your pissing match going... And that's your call but I'm over it. We've had our differences in the past but I'd rather just move forward as fellow Buc fans and not dig into each other constantly.

*Rides off on high horse* 

No pissing match. Simple reality. I don’t even respond to the dumbass anymore, except to mock him. He’s not playing devil’s advocate. These are his earnest piss-poor arguments that he’s been making for years. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2025 2:56 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Coen "we have learn how to not lose games. I've learned that from the Rams and other great organizations"

Meaning finding a way to lose winnable games...

Notice how he didn't say the Bucs?

Bowles was a master of finding ways to lose. 

Veiled shot...

 

It wasn't very subtle. I guarantee he was frustrated with Bowles down the stretch.

 

Agreed.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2025 2:56 pm
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Chip Kelly was going to leave Oregon to be Buccaneers HC - before he decided to jilt us & go back to Oregon (and later, Philly).

 

Chip Kelly walked in saw Josh Freeman and walked right back out

 

lol, I had that Simpson’s gif in my sig line forever. That thing was funny as hell. 

 

 

lol, that was the first thing I thought of when he mentioned Kelly. I couldn’t remember who had it

 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 1, 2025 2:58 pm
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