I'd be happier if the offense puts up around 6,000yds and the defense could be somewhere in the top-15.
I'd think 6,200 - 6,300 would be the sweet spot, with a 50/50 run to pass ratio, and between 27.5 - 29.0 ppg.
All this assuming a middle of the pack defense.
If the defense is middle of the pack in take away and 3 and outs, we could easily average 30-32/game.
I'd be happier if the offense puts up around 6,000yds and the defense could be somewhere in the top-15.
I'd think 6,200 - 6,300 would be the sweet spot, with a 50/50 run to pass ratio, and between 27.5 - 29.0 ppg.
All this assuming a middle of the pack defense.
If the defense is middle of the pack in take away and 3 and outs, we could easily average 30-32/game.
honestly the only question mark is our play calling now
Just how important was Liam Coen.
the team took a huge step forward in 2024 versus 2023. Sure, they added Graham Barton, McMillian, and Bucky Irving but the play calling/execution was much better than it was under Canales and of course Leftwich in 2022.
I dont imagine Grizzard being as bad as Leftwich but where does he fall? Is he as good as Coen? Then yeah, team can average 30 a game. Is he closer to Canales? Then maybe we take a step back
this is the most talented offense under the Bowles era. that's for sure...
Grizzard will have the same aggressive run heavy feel as Coen. I realize we won’t know until we see it but I think him being our 3rd down coordinator/play caller last year and us being the best in the league on third down, bodes well for us for Grizz as an every down play caller.
7000 is a number that sounds like more than it is. #1 there are 17 games and #2 the rules are stacked in favor of the offense. The Bucs almost got 7000 last year at 6793 which is 17th most ALL TIME and 3rd most last year behind the Ravens and the Lions. By the way, the Ravens and the Lions also had good running games.Goal should be 3000 yards rushing. There's direct positive correlation between rushing yards and team success.
It is a passing league and every football savant knows . . there's no correlation between running and passing
Bucs were 5-1 when rushing for 150+ yards and passing for less than 300.
Bucs were 1-2 when throwing for 300+ yards and rushing for less than 150 yards.
Run the fucking ball.
AGAIN you run the ball when you're up.
AGAIN you pass the ball when you're down.
AGAIN
You just throw generic sayings out there and think you're doing something. It's amazing how so many Bucs fans and media can watch the games and literally have no fucking idea why the Bucs win and lose games and who's good and who isn't.
If the Bucs get 7000 offensive yards we're not going to be good because it would take a high amount of pass attempts which means a high amount of Baker turnovers. He turns the ball over, he just does. Bucs were 4-4 with 2 or 3 turnovers and 6-3 with 0 or 1 turnovers. Basic football, I know. But the more we pass the more likely Baker is going to turn it over.
The offensive line and Bucky/Tucker are good enough to the point where we don't have to rely on the scoreboard to dictate if we run or pass. The line can block and those two backs can run. Let them. The sweet spot for this offense is 30 or less pass attempts and 30 or more runs (not with White).
So yes INTs is a concern - and sacks and fumbles. Sure who doesn't want to throw the ball downfield more? But you have X seconds to get rid of the ball before you get your QB killed. Throwing the ball downfield is not a matter of strategy, it's a matter of how accurate your QB is and how good your O-line is at pass blocking. So I find it funny that the new OC is planning to increase the downfield passing attack. Good luck, but let's hope Baker doesn't get himself killed trying to buy more time to get the ball downfield.
7000 is a number that sounds like more than it is. #1 there are 17 games and #2 the rules are stacked in favor of the offense. The Bucs almost got 7000 last year at 6793 which is 17th most ALL TIME and 3rd most last year behind the Ravens and the Lions. By the way, the Ravens and the Lions also had good running games.Goal should be 3000 yards rushing. There's direct positive correlation between rushing yards and team success.
It is a passing league and every football savant knows . . there's no correlation between running and passing
Bucs were 5-1 when rushing for 150+ yards and passing for less than 300.
Bucs were 1-2 when throwing for 300+ yards and rushing for less than 150 yards.
Run the fucking ball.
AGAIN you run the ball when you're up.
AGAIN you pass the ball when you're down.
AGAIN
You just throw generic sayings out there and think you're doing something. It's amazing how so many Bucs fans and media can watch the games and literally have no fucking idea why the Bucs win and lose games and who's good and who isn't.
If the Bucs get 7000 offensive yards we're not going to be good because it would take a high amount of pass attempts which means a high amount of Baker turnovers. He turns the ball over, he just does. Bucs were 4-4 with 2 or 3 turnovers and 6-3 with 0 or 1 turnovers. Basic football, I know. But the more we pass the more likely Baker is going to turn it over.
The offensive line and Bucky/Tucker are good enough to the point where we don't have to rely on the scoreboard to dictate if we run or pass. The line can block and those two backs can run. Let them. The sweet spot for this offense is 30 or less pass attempts and 30 or more runs (not with White).
So yes INTs is a concern - and sacks and fumbles. Sure who doesn't want to throw the ball downfield more? But you have X seconds to get rid of the ball before you get your QB killed. Throwing the ball downfield is not a matter of strategy, it's a matter of how accurate your QB is and how good your O-line is at pass blocking. So I find it funny that the new OC is planning to increase the downfield passing attack. Good luck, but let's hope Baker doesn't get himself killed trying to buy more time to get the ball downfield.
Not sure where you are hearing the “throw more downfield” stuff from. He’s going to have identical, to a percentage point run/pass as we did last year. With Emeka coming on I could see Baker’s completion percentage go up a couple of points. In fact, something to keep an eye on, he could break an NFL record for completion percentage this season. He throws a top 4 ball in the league from a catchable standpoint.
Griz the Whiz has said (in his intro press conference I believe) he wants to get the ball downfield more and I've heard that repeated.Not sure where you are hearing the “throw more downfield” stuff from. He’s going to have identical, to a percentage point run/pass as we did last year. With Emeka coming on I could see Baker’s completion percentage go up a couple of points. In fact, something to keep an eye on, he could break an NFL record for completion percentage this season. He throws a top 4 ball in the league from a catchable standpoint.
If I told you that in Category of _________ the 2024 Top 10 leaders were Bills, Chargers, Ravens, Rams, Chiefs, Eagles, Lions, Commanders, Bears. What statistical category would you guess?
Answer: Fewest givaways. Bucs were 21st in fewest giveaways.
Ball control, first downs, converting inside the red zone, winning the turnover battle, managing the clock in the 4th quarter. These are things that have not gone out of fashion in the NFL. Bucs were good in Red Zone TD conversion last year 4th in the league with 67%. Managing the clock in the 4th quarter - NI - needs improvement. I'd rather the offense be focused on those things rather than breaking yardage records. Total yards is just one part of the total offensive picture.
Throwing the ball downfield is not a matter of strategy
The pure stupidity in this comment should be studied.
For fuck’s sake, it’s borderline retarded.
Seriously.
