Dominik left the Bucs in an average cap situation...nothing great about it.
True when you consider that 12.5 million isn't enough to address a RDE slot WR TE OG x2. And those are just the bare necessities. Those are the positions we need to upgrade in order to be competitive. Now we HAVE to rebuild again through the draft after 5 years when he was supposedly rebuilding. Or we can fill those holes with bargain basement free agents.
We are forced to rebuild while Dominik spent the last two years spending money like a drunk sailor on high priced free agents like Revis Goldson and Nicks. Really if you think about it, if the Glazers had not prevented him from being active in free agency all those years he would have flamed out much quicker.
DE is one of the most expensive positions in the NFL. Most teams find and develop that position through the draft because they are just too damn expensive in free agency. Lots of teams let those guys go when their rookie contracts are up.
I hate to pile on but this was a bad thread.
Yo mark man. I like you dawg, but your comment just supports all some of us be saying about pr man. You guys are completely prejudiced in favor of marky mark Dominick. You be losing credibility on this topic man, especially by not only not making more of doms failures, but going as far as to make excuses for the man after he was fired. Some of us fans be pissed that we had to be watching this crap team over the past five seasons and we will be suffering through some of his mistakes for the next few seasons. We still ain't got a qb man. Yeah, remember? The other dude you all slobbered over and said we should sign to an extension with dom. You talk about bad? Now that was bad yo.
Well first of all it was really in jest, following the lead of the first page of posters, but I get what you are saying. Part of the theme of this original topic was about what could have been. And to me that is the silly part. Truthfully there were 31 other GMs who also choose other players besides the ones listed. Way too easy to look back and pick and choose players who were successful and hammer someone for the players that weren't. Of course Dom made some terrible draft choices, but because we so closely follow the team it is magnified tremendously. I think the first three years grade would be a D, and the last two a solid B. But you know what, the Glazers said that wasn't good enough. And we never wrote a single article disagreeing with their decision. This is a results based profession, from GMs to coaches to the players, and overall the record wasn't good enough. But I'm not sure what purpose it serves to look back and complain about the past. It's over. But I do understand what you guys are saying. A lot of you guys have to sacrifice all year to buy season tickets, and then to go to every game and sit in the heat among a number of idiotic drunks to watch substandard football. It is frustrating. Maybe we aren't sensitive enough to the fans at times. Maybe we don't always look at things from the fan's perspective and should more. I am glad you brought these things up.But again, if I can make one point again, SR nor myself were not shocked, surprised or angry when Dominik and Schiano got fired. And we never tried to make a case for them after the fact. There were some solid selections under Dominik and some duds, but same goes for Bruce Allen, Rich McKay, Phil Kruger and even Ron Wolf in the first couple of seasons.And yes I personally think a lot of Mark Dominik. He is a terrific person, father and husband. I will admit that for everyone to read. But I do not think he did as bad a job as some on here do. Let's see how this foundation he left turns out. Will it turn into the late 90's team that Dungy continued to build that eventually won a Super Bowl. the legacy of a GM sometimes is like a presidents. When the leave office you can't always say how good or bad they did, but it doesn't take many years to figure it out.Thanks for the feedback and keep it coming. SR and I are man enough to take a look in the mirror and admit when we make mistakes and try and find ways to improve.
If you want to understand why people are talking about Dom, you should watch this clip, I timed the link to the appropriate part, but the whole clip -- whole movie in fact, is worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCf46yHIzSo#t=2m35s
And yes I personally think a lot of Mark Dominik. He is a terrific person, father and husband. I will admit that for everyone to read. But I do not think he did as bad a job as some on here do. Let's see how this foundation he left turns out. Will it turn into the late 90's team that Dungy continued to build that eventually won a Super Bowl. the legacy of a GM sometimes is like a presidents. When the leave office you can't always say how good or bad they did, but it doesn't take many years to figure it out.
So what you're saying is Mark Dominik is the Jimmy Carter of GMs.
I'm no fan of Dom, but he clearly wasn't the worst (or second worst) GM in history, so the comparison there isn't fair to him...
And yes I personally think a lot of Mark Dominik. He is a terrific person, father and husband. I will admit that for everyone to read. But I do not think he did as bad a job as some on here do. Let's see how this foundation he left turns out. Will it turn into the late 90's team that Dungy continued to build that eventually won a Super Bowl. the legacy of a GM sometimes is like a presidents. When the leave office you can't always say how good or bad they did, but it doesn't take many years to figure it out.
So what you're saying is Mark Dominik is the Jimmy Carter of GMs.If Licht and Smith turn this around it will have nothing to do with Dominik.
Yup, b/c it will have nothing to do any of the good players Dom brought in. Unless your plan is to turn things around without David, McCoy, Banks, Revis, Barron, and Martin, then yea, will have nothing to do with Dom
5 years into his regime we're 4-12, missing draft picks with bad contracts all over the place. We're sooooooooooooooooo lucky for having Dominik.
+1With an average cap situation. Dom was nothing special.
Want to know how bad Dummynik is ??A team that was desperate enough to hire Dennis Hickey turned Dom down for a chance to even interview. LOL
Dominik left the Bucs in an average cap situation...nothing great about it.
True when you consider that 12.5 million isn't enough to address a RDE slot WR TE OG x2. And those are just the bare necessities. Those are the positions we need to upgrade in order to be competitive. Now we HAVE to rebuild again through the draft after 5 years when he was supposedly rebuilding. Or we can fill those holes with bargain basement free agents.
Your post only illustrates that you have no idea what our cap situation is. Once we make a couple specific cuts we will be over $20 mil in cap space. We don't have to go out and buy all those positions, there is a draft coming up in case you hadnt heard.
Want to know how bad Dummynik is ??A team that was desperate enough to hire Dennis Hickey turned Dom down for a chance to even interview. LOL
Not sure what your point is. The Dolfish are almost as inept at finding front office personnel as the Brownskids are. They recycle GMs at a absurd pace. Dom was bad. But the Fish are losers as well. Could be a blessing. Dom will get a job.
And yes I personally think a lot of Mark Dominik. He is a terrific person, father and husband. I will admit that for everyone to read. But I do not think he did as bad a job as some on here do. Let's see how this foundation he left turns out. Will it turn into the late 90's team that Dungy continued to build that eventually won a Super Bowl. the legacy of a GM sometimes is like a presidents. When the leave office you can't always say how good or bad they did, but it doesn't take many years to figure it out.
So what you're saying is Mark Dominik is the Jimmy Carter of GMs.If Licht and Smith turn this around it will have nothing to do with Dominik.
Yup, b/c it will have nothing to do any of the good players Dom brought in. Unless your plan is to turn things around without David, McCoy, Banks, Revis, Barron, and Martin, then yea, will have nothing to do with Dom
5 years into his regime we're 4-12, missing draft picks with bad contracts all over the place. We're sooooooooooooooooo lucky for having Dominik.
+1With an average cap situation. Dom was nothing special.
That part I absolutely agree with. He wasn't anything special, but he was also not "horrible". We could easily be in a much worse situation.
So, is this my queue to start a "Dominik was an Average GM"? I mean that is how I feel about his tenure here.I'll f'in do it. Dare me!!!!!
And yes I personally think a lot of Mark Dominik. He is a terrific person, father and husband. I will admit that for everyone to read. But I do not think he did as bad a job as some on here do. Let's see how this foundation he left turns out. Will it turn into the late 90's team that Dungy continued to build that eventually won a Super Bowl. the legacy of a GM sometimes is like a presidents. When the leave office you can't always say how good or bad they did, but it doesn't take many years to figure it out.
So what you're saying is Mark Dominik is the Jimmy Carter of GMs.If Licht and Smith turn this around it will have nothing to do with Dominik.
Yup, b/c it will have nothing to do any of the good players Dom brought in. Unless your plan is to turn things around without David, McCoy, Banks, Revis, Barron, and Martin, then yea, will have nothing to do with Dom
5 years into his regime we're 4-12, missing draft picks with bad contracts all over the place. We're sooooooooooooooooo lucky for having Dominik.
+1With an average cap situation. Dom was nothing special.
That part I absolutely agree with. He wasn't anything special, but he was also not "horrible". We could easily be in a much worse situation.
Exactly, he could have been Rich McKay, and left the team in salary cap hell.
And yes I personally think a lot of Mark Dominik. He is a terrific person, father and husband. I will admit that for everyone to read. But I do not think he did as bad a job as some on here do. Let's see how this foundation he left turns out. Will it turn into the late 90's team that Dungy continued to build that eventually won a Super Bowl. the legacy of a GM sometimes is like a presidents. When the leave office you can't always say how good or bad they did, but it doesn't take many years to figure it out.
So what you're saying is Mark Dominik is the Jimmy Carter of GMs.If Licht and Smith turn this around it will have nothing to do with Dominik.
Yup, b/c it will have nothing to do any of the good players Dom brought in. Unless your plan is to turn things around without David, McCoy, Banks, Revis, Barron, and Martin, then yea, will have nothing to do with Dom
5 years into his regime we're 4-12, missing draft picks with bad contracts all over the place. We're sooooooooooooooooo lucky for having Dominik.
+1With an average cap situation. Dom was nothing special.
That part I absolutely agree with. He wasn't anything special, but he was also not "horrible". We could easily be in a much worse situation.
Exactly, he could have been Rich McKay, and left the team in salary cap hell.
Or Gene Smith and with holes a plenty...draft a punter in the 3rd round.
Exactly, he could have been Rich McKay, and left the team in salary cap hell.
You know the Bucs were really good back then, right? And the Bucs went on a mini-spending spree in 2004 under Gruden/Allen.
McBarron: "So, is this my queue to start a "Dominik was an Average GM"? I mean that is how I feel about his tenure here.I'll f'in do it. Dare me!!!!!"Don't even think about it. I'll start a "Dominik started out crappy and worked his way up to average" thread if you force my hand.
