Has the Offensive Line Coach been fired yet? Has the strength and conditioning coach been fired yet?
They should have been shown the door right after Lefty.
going by the playoff blow out you can add the d-line coach and LB coach …and
...did you notice how INSANELY WIDE OPEN their pass catchers were the entirety of the game from that point?
Did you notice how they utilized multiple different route combos, picks, meshes, etc. that just happened to scheme less skilled offensive players than ours, with nobody within 6-10 yards of them?
The answers to all of those questions is a hard no. He’ll scour the internet looking for somebody, and I mean anybody, that may remotely agree with his inferior opinion. He’s completely and utterly clueless.
Just look at how many times he’s referenced how Bowles had to coach with Arians’ staff. He has no idea how coaches select their coaching staffs.
Running a PA pass on 3rd and 24 down 3 scores may work but STATISTICALLY it should be less effective than 2 and 3 with the lead.
My bad. I forgot you're now a film guru/analytics guy now.
Let's hear from a real one.
Ben Baldwin (big time NFL numbers cruncher/analytics guru) actually wrote an article back in 2019 about the effectiveness of play action when leading versus trailing.
"Play-action is most effective when a team is ahead, but still effective -- as measured by yards per play -- when a team is trailing." - Ben Baldwin (with TONS of data to support this)
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2019/play-action-passing-and-game-conditions
So, there's that...
Statistically speaking the Bucs of this season were in less optimal PA circumstances than most teams.
Based on what exactly. You're saying statistically, so let's see it.
O THAT POINT: how effective was the fake handoff on the pick in the end zone? Did the linebackers come up, safety freeze… to get Godwin open? Lol
Ahh...yes. Back to your LONE example (which was actually RPO) in defense of Byron. The outlier. The one pick in the EZ that Brady has thrown in YEARS.
You asked if the LB's come up? They sure did. Right into the middle of Godwin's route because of the freaking PLAY DESIGN/ROUTE CONCEPT created by...checks notes...Byron Leftwich.
But, sure, it was because of the RPO...err...PA.
Weird...
the Cowboys drive down 3 times early because Dak had so much time.
Again, he had DESIGNED PLAYS scheming pass catchers WIDE OPEN. He didn't need time.
We were NOT a 12-5 team dragged down by an OC to 8-9 lol. Proof of that is the ASS WHIPPING our DEFENSE took against the Cowboys
The Bucs defense was ranked #9th in yards allowed and #13th in points allowed.
The Bucs offense was ranked #15th in yards gained and...checks notes...#25th in points scored.
So sure, it wasn't the clueless OC that dragged the team down. Clearly, it was the defense.
Cool story.
...did you notice how INSANELY WIDE OPEN their pass catchers were the entirety of the game from that point?
Did you notice how they utilized multiple different route combos, picks, meshes, etc. that just happened to scheme less skilled offensive players than ours, with nobody within 6-10 yards of them?
The answers to all of those questions is a hard no. He’ll scour the internet looking for somebody, and I mean anybody, that may remotely agree with his inferior opinion. He’s completely and utterly clueless.
Just look at how many times he’s referenced how Bowles had to coach with Arians’ staff. He has no idea how coaches select their coaching staffs.
Aside from intentionally tanking next season, I just can't...for the life of me...understand how anyone can defend Lefty at this point.
It's CLEAR AS DAY his only success as an OC was when Bruce was supervising him. We saw that during his Arizona stint, and we saw it this year.
And, the fact that there are still some on here defending the antiquated "you can't have success with play action unless you're running the ball well"...which ironically enough has moved goalposts to "you can't have success with play action unless you've attempted to establish the run"...is beyond me.
Both have been FACTUALLY proven wrong.
I mean, I guess it makes since that this line of thinking is common among those that support Byron.
But, still, I just don't get it with all the stats, metrics, data, analytics that prove it undoubtedly wrong.
Here's the brilliance of Byron's offense.
Arjun Menon (PFF) on Twitter:
"The Bucs and Chargers offense faced perfectly covered plays at a MUCH more substantial rate than any other offense this weekend. League average this season is 34% btw. Basically the Jags/'Boys knew what the Chargers/Bucs were doing on offense all game, and had their defenders in the right spot where no one was open pretty much all night."
TB was at 60%
DAL was at 24.24%
@badtimes None are gone yet, including Leftnut. Expect the news to drop on Lefty and others probably Friday.
Cool story.
Cool story if you were intellectually honest
This is a great example of what I mean on intellectual honesty:
Again, he had DESIGNED PLAYS scheming pass catchers WIDE OPEN. He didn't need time.
Rather than admitting that we lost because our defense could not get pressure and got DRAGGED dwn the filed for three long drives, you want to preserve your 'cool story" (and eg) so it becomes "yeah he had the time but didnt need it because the plays were so cools (your cool story
THIS IS WHY these arguments are always circular. Your more concerned with your pointthen reality. This is ONE of many article RANKING reasons why the Bucs lost to the Cowboys. Just an opinion BUT note the FIRST TWO:
1. Brady was back being stuck in a compressed, one-dimensional offense
When the Buccaneers beat the Cowboys 19-3 in Week 1 to open the season in Arlington, they rushed for 152 yards, with Leonard Fournette producing 127 of them. On Monday, Fournette and rookie Rachaad White combined for 12 carries and 52 yards. The Bucs didn't bother trying to stick with the run after falling behind by double digits, which set up Micah Parsons and the Cowboys to pin their ears back and just worry about Brady and his receivers.
2. The Buccaneers' usually strong third-down defense let them down
The Buccaneers allowed teams to convert on third down at a 36.9 percent clip during the regular season, good for seventh-best in the NFL. The Cowboys used their rushing attack set up third-and-manageable situations for Prescott. They were successful on 7 of 13 attempts (54 percent) and were also were 2 for 2 on fourth down, including Prescott's naked bootleg TD that put them up 12-0.
3. The Buccaneers' typically bad red-zone defense continued to struggle
The Buccaneers allowed opponents to score touchdowns on 62.5 percent of trips inside the 20 during the regular season, seventh-worst in the NFL. The Cowboys went 4 for 4, doing whatever they wanted with Prescott's passing and running. Their other TD, the first of the game, came from just outside the red zone when Prescott hit wide-open tight end Dalton Schultz.
4. The Cowboys kept getting pressure on Brady in key spots
Brady did his best to avoid sacks, but he rushed some throws that could have been intermediate completions. He threw his early interception while needing to throw the ball away under duress. Eventually, Parsons dropped Brady and the Cowboys.ended up with a couple sacks in the box scor
5. The Cowboys cooled off Mike Evans with Trevon Diggs
From early in the game, Diggs was charged with shadowing Evans, the Buccaneers' top field-stretching perimeter and red zone threat. Evans ended an 11-game scoring drought with 10 catches for 207 yards and three TDs in the Bucs' NFC South-clinching victory over the Panthers in Week 17.
Evans was also a factor in the Week 1 win over the Cowboys, with five catches for 71 yards and a TD. Credit Diggs and defensive coordinator Dan Quinn with taking Evans away from Brady until garbage time. Evans ended up with a quiet six catches for 74 yards on 10 targets.
AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE INTELECTUAL DISHIONESTY i SAIDF THIS ABOUT PA
"Running a PA pass on 3rd and 24 down 3 scores may work but STATISTICALLY it should be less effective than 2 and 3 with the lead."
YOU QUOTED BEN BALDWIN
THIS IS HIOS FIRST CONCLUSION . . . IN THE ARTICLE YOU ACTUALLY QUOTED:
"First, play-action passes are most effective when there's the greatest situational threat of a run. Examples include play-action being more effective from under center than shotgun, being more effective on early downs, and being more effective for teams with a lead.
THAT WAS MY FULL COMMENT ON PA
Leftwich was exposed this season.
DH - the statistical correlation for PA is threat of run so obviously the circumstances matter.
of course . . YOU omitted MY PARAPHRASING THE GUY YOU ENDED UOP QUOTING
lmao
DH, if you want to outpace JC5100 for the title of "Best Fake GM Who Watches Film" have at it. But you cnat change REALITY with your own selective use of Ben Baldwin. That puts you in Buggsy Land
:-)
I honestly have no idea why anyone engages with the above asshole. He continues to display that he has absolutely no idea as to what is being discussed.
glazers workin on it per stroud
I honestly have no idea why anyone engages with the above asshole. He continues to display that he has absolutely no idea as to what is being discussed.
I’m officially done with him.
Dumb prick can’t simply admit when he’s wrong and move on.
Oh well.
Here's the brilliance of Byron's offense.
Arjun Menon (PFF) on Twitter:
"The Bucs and Chargers offense faced perfectly covered plays at a MUCH more substantial rate than any other offense this weekend. League average this season is 34% btw. Basically the Jags/'Boys knew what the Chargers/Bucs were doing on offense all game, and had their defenders in the right spot where no one was open pretty much all night."
TB was at 60%
DAL was at 24.24%
This is 100% why, despite solid talent on this team, we couldn't regularly score until we went into the hurry up offense. Teams knew what we were running the majority of the time. The only way we could consistently win was with superior execution which went out the window when this offensive line showed early and often that it wasn't going to provide Brady enough time to let routes develop. A great offense will make it easy, getting guys naturally open due to the route combinations forcing defenses to make choices they don't want to make. Makes it a lot easier to still have a passing game with just 2 good to great receivers vs what we've had the year and a half. We saw the exact same issues last year when AB wigged out and Godwin got hurt. We could no longer out talent the competition and we couldn't score nearly as easy.
Don't know why some people have a hard time with this.
Here's the brilliance of Byron's offense.
Arjun Menon (PFF) on Twitter:
"The Bucs and Chargers offense faced perfectly covered plays at a MUCH more substantial rate than any other offense this weekend. League average this season is 34% btw. Basically the Jags/'Boys knew what the Chargers/Bucs were doing on offense all game, and had their defenders in the right spot where no one was open pretty much all night."
TB was at 60%
DAL was at 24.24%
And both of those OC’s have been fired.
30LA Chargers88.4106.067.086.490.0107.9
31Houston86.871.059.087.586.283.6
32Tampa Bay75.668.352.054.296.996.3
WEIRD . . .
Pass attempts per game
| 1 | Tampa Bay | 45.4 | 48.3 | 66.0 | 50.8 | 40.0 | 43.3 |
| 2 | LA Chargers | 41.9 | 39.3 | 43.0 | 42.6 | 41.3 | 39.6 |
