Even If Mike Sullivan Leaves, Don’t Expect A Big Change in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ Offense Under Greg SchianoBy Leo Howell - Dec 16th, 2013 
November 11, 2012; Tampa, FL, USA; Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach Greg Schiano (left) and offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan talk during the first half against the San Diego Chargers at Raymond James Stadium. Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports Fans of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have no reason to be happy with their team’s offense. The Bucs are currently 32nd in the NFL in yards per game and passing yards per game, and rank 28th in points per game. That leaves most fans of the team wanting offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan to lose his job. But for the second offseason in a row, Sullivan is going to be a head coaching candidate elsewhere, while the Tampa Bay offense with Pro Bowlers at multiple positions remains at the bottom of the NFL. So why is the offense struggling so badly? During Monday’s “day after the game” press conference, Greg Schiano made a pretty tame comment that speaks volumes about his role in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ offense. When asked about no huddle, and why the team didn’t use it more on Sunday against the 49ers, Schiano said “I didn’t want to…” In other words, Mike Sullivan may call some plays and dictate some of the in-game adjustments made by the offense, but Greg Schiano has power over Sullivan, and will call the shots when he sees fit. So the second half woes for the offense and the inexplicable changes during halftime of most games may not be the fault of Eli Manning’s old QB coach. It may instead be the fault of Mike Teel’s old head coach at Rutgers. If Sullivan does leave, don’t expect big changes in the offense in Tampa Bay. John McNulty would likely be promoted to offensive coordinator, and he’d likely keep most of the current ideals and players in place and continue to run the offense Greg Schiano likes to run. Schiano has some positive qualities mixed in with his frustrating habits, but possibly his worst quality is his stubborn nature when it comes to processes and schemes he believes to be proven. And he believes that teams that run the football, get good time of possession, and throw the ball down the field are teams that win. So any offensive coordinator he hires will simply do the very same thing. http://thepewterplank.com/2013/12/16/even-mike-sullivan-leaves-dont-expect-big-change-tampa-bay-buccaneers-offense-greg-schiano/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Around%20the%20Network
During Monday’s “day after the game” press conference, Greg Schiano made a pretty tame comment that speaks volumes about his role in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ offense. When asked about no huddle, and why the team didn’t use it more on Sunday against the 49ers, Schiano said “I didn’t want to…”This is just another indictment of why there needs to be a change at HC. If he is unwilling to go to something that is working during the game then there is no chance this team will ever achieve the success that the fans want.
i knew from the jump sullivan wasn't the problem. we all saw what happened last year when gregory let sullivan have full control of the offense in the middle of the year- a top-5 offense. they ranked 9th in yards and scored 24 PPG. now it's suddenly amongst the worst when gregory gets ahold of it again? he has to go. it's sickening.
Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
I like Schiano but on offense he's been too damn conservative ....I've got no problem with wanting to be physical running team , but you also have to be smart. You can't continue to run the ball into the teeth of 8 men in the box on 2nd and 10 .....All you do is set up 3rd and 9 , which is a terrible percentage of conversion , even for the elite offenses in the league.We do this , every time it seems , like clockwork. Worse tendency I've ever seen. It's like offensive suicide.
The biggest gripe is not Schiano's gameplan. In theory it works really well. But if you stop the run game it all goes to hell and there doesn't seem to be a back up plan. Some teams who can't run the ball use more swing passes, screen pass etc...to take the place of those runs and draw people toward the LOS. No use, we do none of that.
Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
Motivator & disciplinarian? Who cares? The only reason you care is because Raheem ran a club med here. All good coaches should have those characteristics(at least a little).The guy just doesn't have the skill set to win on the pro level.
I'm really unsure of who we would bring in to replace sully and if Schiano doesn't trust him or whatever, maybe it won't matter.
Rod Marinelli was a good motivator and disciplinarian. He was/is well respected by football people. So what?
Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
Motivator & disciplinarian? Who cares? The only reason you care is because Raheem ran a club med here. All good coaches should have those characteristics(at least a little).The guy just doesn't have the skill set to win on the pro level.
Well but even motivation and discipline. We miss a lot of tackles,mew draw a lot of flags, we blow a lot of assignments. I don't even see the get the little things right angle from Rutgers. I see a team that tries hard but not smart.
Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
Motivator & disciplinarian? Who cares? The only reason you care is because Raheem ran a club med here. All good coaches should have those characteristics(at least a little).The guy just doesn't have the skill set to win on the pro level.
Well but even motivation and discipline. We miss a lot of tackles,mew draw a lot of flags, we blow a lot of assignments. I don't even see the get the little things right angle from Rutgers. I see a team that tries hard but not smart.
I think at his core Schiano is not naturally a smart guy. What he's figured out is despite that limitation, if he tries really hard and does something over and over and over again until he gets it, it's good enough to get ahead in most of the things in his life. However in the NFL, all the other coaches try really hard and do things over and over and over again until they get it, but most of them are naturally smart and there's just nothing Schiano can do to be smarter than them.
Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
Motivator & disciplinarian? Who cares? The only reason you care is because Raheem ran a club med here. All good coaches should have those characteristics(at least a little).The guy just doesn't have the skill set to win on the pro level.
Well but even motivation and discipline. We miss a lot of tackles,mew draw a lot of flags, we blow a lot of assignments. I don't even see the get the little things right angle from Rutgers. I see a team that tries hard but not smart.
I think at his core Schiano is not naturally a smart guy. What he's figured out is despite that limitation, if he tries really hard and does something over and over and over again until he gets it, it's good enough to get ahead in most of the things in his life. However in the NFL, all the other coaches try really hard and do things over and over and over again until they get it, but most of them are naturally smart and there's just nothing Schiano can do to be smarter than them.
lmao at that ^^^^ stupidity, complete nonsense fabricated out of one's mind and nothing more. I mean, it may be true but how would you know that to make that claim? Good gawd, its not like he came off some farm in the middle of nowhere, he has a degree from Bucknell. Bucknell is not Harvard, but its also not some Podunk state school. The guy has succeeded at every level but this one and so he is "not naturally a smart guy?" Man . . . . .is Pete Carroll "not naturally a smart guy" because he failed in the NFL as a HC? Saban? etc. Was Belichick "not naturally a smart guy" when he failed an failed?There's plenty of legit crit, but man . . lol
Frg. Good post. Don't expect people to handle the truth well.
Frg. Good post. Don't expect people to handle the truth well.
LOL . . .now there's a ring endorsement for you FRG!!!!! Bench agrees . . . . you must be proud!
Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
Motivator & disciplinarian? Who cares? The only reason you care is because Raheem ran a club med here. All good coaches should have those characteristics(at least a little).The guy just doesn't have the skill set to win on the pro level.
Well but even motivation and discipline. We miss a lot of tackles,mew draw a lot of flags, we blow a lot of assignments. I don't even see the get the little things right angle from Rutgers. I see a team that tries hard but not smart.
I think at his core Schiano is not naturally a smart guy. What he's figured out is despite that limitation, if he tries really hard and does something over and over and over again until he gets it, it's good enough to get ahead in most of the things in his life. However in the NFL, all the other coaches try really hard and do things over and over and over again until they get it, but most of them are naturally smart and there's just nothing Schiano can do to be smarter than them.
lmao at that ^^^^ stupidity, complete nonsense fabricated out of one's mind and nothing more. I mean, it may be true but how would you know that to make that claim? Good gawd, its not like he came off some farm in the middle of nowhere, he has a degree from Bucknell. Bucknell is not Harvard, but its also not some Podunk state school. The guy has succeeded at every level but this one and so he is "not naturally a smart guy?" Man . . . . .is Pete Carroll "not naturally a smart guy" because he failed in the NFL as a HC? Saban? etc. Was Belichick "not naturally a smart guy" when he failed an failed?There's plenty of legit crit, but man . . lol
He succeeded in college? Seriously, this is total BS. What did he accomplish? Did his team ever reach the ELITE status? You are equating taking a doormat to a mediocre team with success. He never won a title in a bad conference. How is that successful? This is the low bar I am speaking of in other threads. He has an overall LOSING record a s a head coach. On what level is that success? PATHETIC.
