Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
Motivator & disciplinarian? Who cares? The only reason you care is because Raheem ran a club med here. All good coaches should have those characteristics(at least a little).The guy just doesn't have the skill set to win on the pro level.
Well but even motivation and discipline. We miss a lot of tackles,mew draw a lot of flags, we blow a lot of assignments. I don't even see the get the little things right angle from Rutgers. I see a team that tries hard but not smart.
I think at his core Schiano is not naturally a smart guy. What he's figured out is despite that limitation, if he tries really hard and does something over and over and over again until he gets it, it's good enough to get ahead in most of the things in his life. However in the NFL, all the other coaches try really hard and do things over and over and over again until they get it, but most of them are naturally smart and there's just nothing Schiano can do to be smarter than them.
lmao at that ^^^^ stupidity, complete nonsense fabricated out of one's mind and nothing more. I mean, it may be true but how would you know that to make that claim? Good gawd, its not like he came off some farm in the middle of nowhere, he has a degree from Bucknell. Bucknell is not Harvard, but its also not some Podunk state school. The guy has succeeded at every level but this one and so he is "not naturally a smart guy?" Man . . . . .is Pete Carroll "not naturally a smart guy" because he failed in the NFL as a HC? Saban? etc. Was Belichick "not naturally a smart guy" when he failed an failed?There's plenty of legit crit, but man . . lol
He succeeded in college? Seriously, this is total BS. What did he accomplish? Did his team ever reach the ELITE status?
LOL, familiar cast of characters agree with FRG's comment. Seriously though, everything he accomplished at Rutgers does not count because Rutgers did not reach "elite" status? Huh? How is the distance from zero to 80 shorter than the distance from 81 to 100? Rutgers had not done anything since the 70s and even then it was modest success at best. By that "logic" a 300 pound guy that runs a marathon has not accomplished anything because he did not finish in the top 10 . . .lolIt's funny to watch you guys that are so motivated by hate that you cant resist being completely unreasonable in your criticism. Acknowledging accomplishment at Rutgers does not equate to conceding that Schiano is a great coach . . . . its just being fair and reasonable.
When did Belichick fail and fail? And iirc, Carrol wasnt a huge failure as a HC. Rather just mediocre. And he was a good enough asst. coach to get promoted twice to HC.
Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
Motivator & disciplinarian? Who cares? The only reason you care is because Raheem ran a club med here. All good coaches should have those characteristics(at least a little).The guy just doesn't have the skill set to win on the pro level.
Well but even motivation and discipline. We miss a lot of tackles,mew draw a lot of flags, we blow a lot of assignments. I don't even see the get the little things right angle from Rutgers. I see a team that tries hard but not smart.
I think at his core Schiano is not naturally a smart guy. What he's figured out is despite that limitation, if he tries really hard and does something over and over and over again until he gets it, it's good enough to get ahead in most of the things in his life. However in the NFL, all the other coaches try really hard and do things over and over and over again until they get it, but most of them are naturally smart and there's just nothing Schiano can do to be smarter than them.
lmao at that ^^^^ stupidity, complete nonsense fabricated out of one's mind and nothing more. I mean, it may be true but how would you know that to make that claim? Good gawd, its not like he came off some farm in the middle of nowhere, he has a degree from Bucknell. Bucknell is not Harvard, but its also not some Podunk state school. The guy has succeeded at every level but this one and so he is "not naturally a smart guy?" Man . . . . .is Pete Carroll "not naturally a smart guy" because he failed in the NFL as a HC? Saban? etc. Was Belichick "not naturally a smart guy" when he failed an failed?There's plenty of legit crit, but man . . lol
He succeeded in college? Seriously, this is total BS. What did he accomplish? Did his team ever reach the ELITE status?
LOL, familiar cast of characters agree with FRG's comment. Seriously though, everything he accomplished at Rutgers does not count because Rutgers did not reach "elite" status? Huh? How is the distance from zero to 80 shorter than the distance from 81 to 100? Rutgers had not done anything since the 70s and even then it was modest success at best. By that "logic" a 300 pound guy that runs a marathon has not accomplished anything because he did not finish in the top 10 . . .lolIt's funny to watch you guys that are so motivated by hate that you cant resist being completely unreasonable in your criticism. Acknowledging accomplishment at Rutgers does not equate to conceding that Schiano is a great coach . . . . its just being fair and reasonable.
Let me help you with a better analogy...dude took them from an F to a C. Guess what? That's still a C grade. is that what you want? He's worse in the pros. This is fact and indisputable. It is funny to see you try to dispute facts. That 300 pound guy? He gets a participation trophy. That's what you are and dude, I feel sorry for you. You must set the bar higher than "out of the top ten" or "being medicocre". Not sure how you ever got to this point but I believe in you. Raise that bar fella. Come on everyone....let's cheer these Schitanopologists on!!!! You can do it!!!!!
Never mistake effort for RESULTS!!!!!
Was what he did at Rutgers any more impressive than what Jim Leavitt did at USF? No! And nobody was offering him a 5 year $15 mil Nfl HC job.
Schiano can be a good HC. He's good motivator, a disciplinarian, has made several tough decisions while here with most working out well and has a knack for talent in the draft. In order for him to ever be considered a good HC he needs to find himself an OC he believes in and leave him alone.Schiano is a defensive guy and I don't mind him playing around with our defense a bit but he should not be involved in offense. Find an OC, let him do his job, if he doesn't replace him. He can't possibly be efficient being the HC and improtu DC and OC. Find a guy and let him run this offense and quit looking over his shoulder.Why didn't you run more no huddle? "I didn't want to" That's a bad answer Greg and I'm one of your only remaining partial supporters here.
Motivator & disciplinarian? Who cares? The only reason you care is because Raheem ran a club med here. All good coaches should have those characteristics(at least a little).The guy just doesn't have the skill set to win on the pro level.
Well but even motivation and discipline. We miss a lot of tackles,mew draw a lot of flags, we blow a lot of assignments. I don't even see the get the little things right angle from Rutgers. I see a team that tries hard but not smart.
I think at his core Schiano is not naturally a smart guy. What he's figured out is despite that limitation, if he tries really hard and does something over and over and over again until he gets it, it's good enough to get ahead in most of the things in his life. However in the NFL, all the other coaches try really hard and do things over and over and over again until they get it, but most of them are naturally smart and there's just nothing Schiano can do to be smarter than them.
lmao at that ^^^^ stupidity, complete nonsense fabricated out of one's mind and nothing more. I mean, it may be true but how would you know that to make that claim? Good gawd, its not like he came off some farm in the middle of nowhere, he has a degree from Bucknell. Bucknell is not Harvard, but its also not some Podunk state school. The guy has succeeded at every level but this one and so he is "not naturally a smart guy?" Man . . . . .is Pete Carroll "not naturally a smart guy" because he failed in the NFL as a HC? Saban? etc. Was Belichick "not naturally a smart guy" when he failed an failed?There's plenty of legit crit, but man . . lol
He succeeded in college? Seriously, this is total BS. What did he accomplish? Did his team ever reach the ELITE status?
LOL, familiar cast of characters agree with FRG's comment. Seriously though, everything he accomplished at Rutgers does not count because Rutgers did not reach "elite" status? Huh? How is the distance from zero to 80 shorter than the distance from 81 to 100? Rutgers had not done anything since the 70s and even then it was modest success at best. By that "logic" a 300 pound guy that runs a marathon has not accomplished anything because he did not finish in the top 10 . . .lolIt's funny to watch you guys that are so motivated by hate that you cant resist being completely unreasonable in your criticism. Acknowledging accomplishment at Rutgers does not equate to conceding that Schiano is a great coach . . . . its just being fair and reasonable.
Let me help you with a better analogy...dude took them from an F to a C. Guess what? That's still a C grade. is that what you want? He's worse in the pros. This is fact and indisputable. It is funny to see you try to dispute facts. That 300 pound guy? He gets a participation trophy. That's what you are and dude, I feel sorry for you. You must set the bar higher than "out of the top ten" or "being medicocre". Not sure how you ever got to this point but I believe in you. Raise that bar fella. Come on everyone....let's cheer these Schitanopologists on!!!! You can do it!!!!!
LOL Here's your comment: "He succeeded in college? Seriously, this is total BS. What did he accomplish? Did his team ever reach the ELITE status? "Total BS" and he didn't accomplish anything now becomes "F to a C." But you want to distance yourself from your prior misstatement and so now you are switching it to "setting the bar low." LMAOBtw, I am not a Schiano apologist. I have said based on performance he gets fired, based on circumstances he does not
Was what he did at Rutgers any more impressive than what Jim Leavitt did at USF? No! And nobody was offering him a 5 year $15 mil Nfl HC job.
Two separate issues, so let me ask you Did Leavitt accomplish anything at USF? I am not asking if his accomplishments were worthy of a HC job, just a simple question: Did Leavitt accomplish anything at USF?Maybe you should let Anomaly answer ;)
Frg. Good post. Don't expect people to handle the truth well.
LOL . . .now there's a ring endorsement for you FRG!!!!! Bench agrees . . . . you must be proud!
Lolz
LOL Here's your comment: "He succeeded in college? Seriously, this is total BS. What did he accomplish? Did his team ever reach the ELITE status? "Total BS" and he didn't accomplish anything now becomes "F to a C." But you want to distance yourself from your prior misstatement and so now you are switching it to "setting the bar low." LMAOBtw, I am not a Schiano apologist. I have said based on performance he gets fired, based on circumstances he does not
If you are calling taking Rutgers from the bottom to middle tier in a bad conference as "succeeded" then that's on you. You said he succeeded in college. I disagree as would most on here. Feel free to poll the masses. Schiano was a .500 coach in college and that equates to worse in the pros. Wow, look at that the logic holds up as true. Weird.
LOL Here's your comment: "He succeeded in college? Seriously, this is total BS. What did he accomplish? Did his team ever reach the ELITE status? "Total BS" and he didn't accomplish anything now becomes "F to a C." But you want to distance yourself from your prior misstatement and so now you are switching it to "setting the bar low." LMAOBtw, I am not a Schiano apologist. I have said based on performance he gets fired, based on circumstances he does not
If you are calling taking Rutgers from the bottom to middle tier in a bad conference as "succeeded" then that's on you. You said he succeeded in college. I disagree as would most on here. Feel free to poll the masses. Schiano was a .500 coach in college and that equates to worse in the pros. Wow, look at that the logic holds up as true. Weird.
an F to a C is not "success" just like a 300 lb guy running a marathon in less than record time is not "success" . . . . . got itBtw, you should never use the word logic . . and maybe get a dictionary:suc·cess (sk-ss)n.1. The achievement of something desired, planned, or attemptedYou're taking issue with the LEVEL of his success, not that he didn't have success
Of course people miss the point. No one is saying Schiano is dumber than a garbageman. (OK maybe a few people would say that, but that's not where I'm going.) The point is there are roughly 400 NFL assistant coaches and roughly 2,000 Division I college head coaches and assistant coaches who would all love to be one of 32 NFL head coaches. So if by skill or luck you become one of those 32 NFL head coaches, you've done something right and have something going for you. But once you get to just those 32 guys, someone is the smartest and someone is the least smartest. If you compared Schiano to Bill Belichick, Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Tom Coughlin, Pete Carroll, Bruce Arians, Mike McCoy, Marc Trestman, Chip Kelly, and the other top coaches, is there any possible scenario you'd say Schiano is smarter than any of them? No. At best you could say he might be smarter than a few coaches about to get fired like Leslie Frazier and Jim Schwartz. If that's good enough for some of you, congratulations.
The Bucs need to run the ball more. They need to take more "shots down the field". That's not "conservative". That's winning football for a team without Brady, Manning, Brees, or Rogers. It will happen and be effective once the right personnel is healthy and in place. Oh, one more thing. I don't expect the "Madden" generation to grasp this concept.
BEFORE:
I think at his core Schiano is not naturally a smart guy. What he's figured out is despite that limitation, if he tries really hard and does something over and over and over again until he gets it, it's good enough to get ahead in most of the things in his life. However in the NFL, all the other coaches try really hard and do things over and over and over again until they get it, but most of them are naturally smart and there's just nothing Schiano can do to be smarter than them.
AFTER:
Of course people miss the point. No one is saying Schiano is dumber than a garbageman. (OK maybe a few people would say that, but that's not where I'm going.) The point is there are roughly 400 NFL assistant coaches and roughly 2,000 Division I college head coaches and assistant coaches who would all love to be one of 32 NFL head coaches. So if by skill or luck you become one of those 32 NFL head coaches, you've done something right and have something going for you. But once you get to just those 32 guys, someone is the smartest and someone is the least smartest. If you compared Schiano to Bill Belichick, Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Tom Coughlin, Pete Carroll, Bruce Arians, Mike McCoy, Marc Trestman, Chip Kelly, and the other top coaches, is there any possible scenario you'd say Schiano is smarter than any of them? No. At best you could say he might be smarter than a few coaches about to get fired like Leslie Frazier and Jim Schwartz. If that's good enough for some of you, congratulations.
with a little "blame the readers" thrown in. ;)
While the catfight rages on with mundane and predictable responses, let me throw this out there.Schiano is no dullard but he's no creative wonder either. The fact is he's a perfectionist who is a slave to the process.A quintessential recipe cook. He lacks the imagination to be bold. His approach is to follow the direction of his many mentors expertly and with painstaking detail.I've worked with and for some of these types. I've hired some too. Absolutely honest, sincere, trustworthy and hardworking people. But along with this is that these people often freeze under pressure in a dynamic environment. They default back to what they know worked in the past instead of pioneering a new innovative solution.I have no issue having the Schiano type be a head coach here as long as he surrounds himself with the creative talent needed and keeps his hands off the X and O component.At this juncture I am unsure that he ever has nor ever will.Calling for the abrupt demise of Sunday's no huddle wrinkle spoke volumes.
While the catfight rages on with mundane and predictable responses, let me throw this out there.Schiano is no dullard but he's no creative wonder either. The fact is he's a perfectionist who is a slave to the process.A quintessential recipe cook. He lacks the imagination to be bold. His approach is to follow the direction of his many mentors expertly and with painstaking detail.I've worked with and for some of these types. I've hired some too. Absolutely honest, sincere, trustworthy and hardworking people. But along with this is that these people often freeze under pressure in a dynamic environment. They default back to what they know worked in the past instead of pioneering a new innovative solution.I have no issue having the Schiano type be a head coach here as long as he surrounds himself with the creative talent needed and keeps his hands off the X and O component.At this juncture I am unsure that he ever has nor ever will.Calling for the abrupt demise of Sunday's no huddle wrinkle spoke volumes.
Exactly what I was saying.
