No one is saying Glennon is a superstar but most are saying considering what we could replace him with, he's deserving of another year. Mike's issues are as follows in my eyes...1. Can be gun shy and throw a few fade away jumpers.2. Leaves the pocket with no pressure or fails to step up in the pocket.3. Sloppy with mechanics when pressured or hurried.That's it. Those three things he needs to work on and both of those things are fixed with proper coaching and experience. Glennon has the mental ability and physical ability to be very good. He doesn't have a cannon arm but has made some throws on game day that have surprised me. He is an accurate passer when using proper mechanics and was one of the most effective deep ball throwers in the league, although it should be noted he didn't throw deep very often.
Also fixed with some new pieces on the OL. I cant blame Glennon for not wanting to step up in the pocket.
I agree with both of you. Improve the oline and get some recievers that Glennon trusts and those faults will go away. Some people have a lot of trouble accepting that there are 10 other starters on offense. 11 if you count the slot.
+1Like I said above...this team has A LOT of holes that need to be filled. We should be spending our picks on needs, rather than a luxury like a QB that may OR may not be any better than what we have. If we were at the top of the draft during a big QB year (like 1983, 1998 or 2004) then I could be swayed to the other side...BUT nobody in this class is a "sure" thing. Especially not the lovechild on these boards, Johnny Manziel.
I am also not completely sold on Glennon but let me tell you I am tired of these fans who just hate him and say he can't get better, that's an absolute joke to me, all of the draft experts who saw Glennon said they didn't even think he would of done what he did this year, seriously he had an awful o line and weak supporting cast. I am not saying that clears his flaws but a new system could possibly help him be with his tendencies to hold onto the ball a little to long, all I remember hearing Schiano say was a sack is better than a pick, yes it is to an extent but it might of gotten to Glennon a little bit and made him more tentative than he should be. Basically if Tedford and these new coaches think they can win with Glennon I am all for it, Tedford knows his Ob's so I trust him. Bring in some competition I am fine with it but I am no where near giving up on Glennon yet.
I'm mostly not a believer in Glennon but I'm also generally a fan of new school outsider analysts like Fahey so if he's upbeat on Glennon it means something to me. That said, it's not enough to just be smart with the football and only make the throws when they're there. As we saw this past year, that's not enough. Defensive players get paid, too. In order to win a lot of games, you have to make the difficult, contested throws just like you do the easier, favorable matchups. If all you can do are the smart throws, you end up with the #32 offense and #37 YPA.
Again, with a good defense, I think Glennon can be a decent quarterback as long as he has a reasonable offensive line. Lovie is still a Dungy disciple and he's going to win with defense and a competent quarterback. I'm on the fence with Glennon as well, but I'm leaning toward the side that says that he can be good enough with the right coaching, playmakers and a decent offensive line. Maybe even a bit more than good enough.
Its a good read. Legitimate pluses and concerns.It portrays Glennon from a unbiased light which I think most here can't see anymore.The guy does have skills. Possibly enough to be a top QB in the league with time and the right amount of mentoring/training.Big reason why I am not bus-ing the dude and screaming to get a 'first round' QB this season.We need a legitimate backup plan. Yes. But don't write MG off too quickly.
You guys sound like you're talking about freeman...just saying.History will once again repeat itself I'm afraid.
I'm mostly not a believer in Glennon but I'm also generally a fan of new school outsider analysts like Fahey so if he's upbeat on Glennon it means something to me. That said, it's not enough to just be smart with the football and only make the throws when they're there. As we saw this past year, that's not enough. Defensive players get paid, too. In order to win a lot of games, you have to make the difficult, contested throws just like you do the easier, favorable matchups. If all you can do are the smart throws, you end up with the #32 offense and #37 YPA.
I am not familiar with Fahey, but I didn't see much that indicates the buccaneers have filled the qb slot at this point in time. Good to hear no one is considering Glennon a superstar at this point ???
I going to root for whoever our qb is, glennon or not.But do I think it's wise to start him, if there is a possibility to bring in a top college qb? Hell no.
At this point my plan is just to back whatever the coaches feel gives them the best opportunity to win.
I going to root for whoever our qb is, glennon or not.But do I think it's wise to start him, if there is a possibility to bring in a top college qb?
Does that mean you would use the #7 pick on QB and, if so, who would it be?
I going to root for whoever our qb is, glennon or not.But do I think it's wise to start him, if there is a possibility to bring in a top college qb?
Does that mean you would use the #7 pick on QB and, if so, who would it be?
I think it's unlikely Teddy or Bortles will be there but I think they'd be slam dunk picks if available
I going to root for whoever our qb is, glennon or not.But do I think it's wise to start him, if there is a possibility to bring in a top college qb?
Does that mean you would use the #7 pick on QB and, if so, who would it be?
I think it's unlikely Teddy or Bortles will be there but I think they'd be slam dunk picks if available
that was sort of why I asked the question, isn't it unlikely that any noteworthy QB will be there at #7? Would we be using a 1st round pick on the 3rd or 4th best QB?
I going to root for whoever our qb is, glennon or not.But do I think it's wise to start him, if there is a possibility to bring in a top college qb?
Does that mean you would use the #7 pick on QB and, if so, who would it be?
I think it's unlikely Teddy or Bortles will be there but I think they'd be slam dunk picks if available
that was sort of why I asked the question, isn't it unlikely that any noteworthy QB will be there at #7? Would we be using a 1st round pick on the 3rd or 4th best QB?
IMO "3rd or 4th best" is irrelevant. Either the FO thinks they are a quality starter or not.
I going to root for whoever our qb is, glennon or not.But do I think it's wise to start him, if there is a possibility to bring in a top college qb?
Does that mean you would use the #7 pick on QB and, if so, who would it be?
I think it's unlikely Teddy or Bortles will be there but I think they'd be slam dunk picks if available
that was sort of why I asked the question, isn't it unlikely that any noteworthy QB will be there at #7? Would we be using a 1st round pick on the 3rd or 4th best QB?
IMO "3rd or 4th best" is irrelevant. Either the FO thinks they are a quality starter or not.
Yeah, I agree with that, I only meant that we wouldn't get a QB universally considered the best or even 2nd best in what appears to be a weak QB draft. I am not saying they don't do it if they think they have their guy
I only really like Bridgewater at 7, but who cares about "universally considered?" You hire personnel guys to evaluate talent by position and also across positions. If they think there's a QB available then you have to trust them or you shouldn't have hired them in the first place. The draft is littered with examples of the 2nd or 3rd "best" guy being better than the "best" guy.
