Not to defend the job Bowles is doing but....
…proceeds to defend Bowles.
Was it Bowles coaching that lost the game, or being outmanned? I think it was mostly the latter.Not to defend the job Bowles is doing but....
…proceeds to defend Bowles.
What I don't know is when this team was assembled, what was Bowles role? The Bucs decided to roll with more draft picks and UDFAs than any team in recent memory. They decided to stock the practice squad with the players they cut rather than scouring the waiver wire to find castoffs from other teams. Everyone was saying how great it was, but it turns out that maybe they could have used a little more help. Did this happen because Licht was overly confident in his ability to draft and sign UDFAs? Or was Bowles too loyal wanting a tight knit group and told Licht "We're good with our group of players..." Or some combination. To the extent that Bowles didn't push for bringing in any more competition for the depth players on this team, then that's on Bowles. If he pushed for it and didn't get it, then that's on Licht. We'll never know.
Well it's technically or officially no matter your point of view is, over in having stars Chris Goodwin and Mike Evans for for awhile being not in the lineup.
But I’m tired of announcers saying how good Diaby is every week. He wouldn’t play much on good defenses.
Of course, he would. Even good defenses rotate their defensive linemen.
Braswell and JTS may be different stories, but Diaby would get snaps.
Was it Bowles coaching that lost the game, or being outmanned?
It was horrible decisions by the HC and the DC. The defense gave up 31 points.
You're still making excuses.
Was it Bowles coaching that lost the game, or being outmanned? I think it was mostly the latter.Not to defend the job Bowles is doing but....
…proceeds to defend Bowles.
What I don't know is when this team was assembled, what was Bowles role? The Bucs decided to roll with more draft picks and UDFAs than any team in recent memory. They decided to stock the practice squad with the players they cut rather than scouring the waiver wire to find castoffs from other teams. Everyone was saying how great it was, but it turns out that maybe they could have used a little more help. Did this happen because Licht was overly confident in his ability to draft and sign UDFAs? Or was Bowles too loyal wanting a tight knit group and told Licht "We're good with our group of players..." Or some combination. To the extent that Bowles didn't push for bringing in any more competition for the depth players on this team, then that's on Bowles. If he pushed for it and didn't get it, then that's on Licht. We'll never know.
dude, how many times do we have to say it, Bowles lost this game. that fake punt when the defense was finally starting to play half decent was the end of the game. Why would you take such a high risk play...and then you run it to boot...only fake punts i seen work have been passes but i digress.
the defense sucks which ok blame Licht for deciding to bring back Wirfs, Evans, etc. rather than keep Davis but decisions had to be made given the dead cap space; and Licht chose correctly
that fake punt when the defense was finally starting to play half decent was the end of the game. Why would you take such a high risk play...and then you run it to boot...only fake punts i seen work have been passes but i digress.
Bowles would be 100% responsible for everything that happens on the field, but Greg Olsen described the fake punt as a bad call on an "alert," meaning it was put in as an option in the game plan. It didnt make sense for the player on the filed to go with it under those circumstances.
Only mention that because its not hard to imagine the team putting in the fake punt option for a game like this.
But, to the larger point about coaching versus outmanned, it is BOTH, right?
That does NOT absolve Bowles, but obviously injuries/player availability is a big part of it. In fact, in the second half we got stops but the offense faltered. The offense also turned the ball over multiple times, so its not like its Coen wins but for Bowles (although Bowles himself suggests almost as much).
He was likely not going to survive beyond his contract without some significant success. The Bucs were LONG overdue to get hit by the injury bug, so it was sort of setting up this way anyway.
But, to the larger point about coaching versus outmanned, it is BOTH, right?
A couple really easy examples
1. Funderburk is in for Dean and they went right after him SUCCESSFULLY
2. Britt sucks obviously, but there is NO OTHER OPTION . . a point made clear when LVD went down
3. Izien is pretty good but he us an UDFA and he's in because a playmaking ROOKIE is injured
4. Even with that we might win with Goodwin, let alone Godwin and Evans, especially with that late drive.
INJURIES HAPPEN IN THE NFL. Combine that TRUTH with a team that is really not picking free agents and only going with the draft and you get what this season has devolved into.
He signed a 5 year contract in 2022. We are now in year 3.
I think they will give him the 2025 season but ultimately make a call whether to extend or fire concluding the 2025 season. They wont have him go into the final year of the deal as a lame duck guy.
Bucs likely go 8-9 this year, miss playoffs, and they chalk this year up to injuries/dead cape space.
"We don't want to change the defense. If you put Bowles out on the street, there will be teams lining up around the block to hire him as DC."
LOL!!!!!
IMO he's not a very good HC but he will probably get 1 more year since they overachieved last year. If Coen starts getting HC interviews though the Glazers ought to move fast and make the right business decision.
Bad decisions didn't help, but they didn't lose the game. Anybody watching the game could see we could do nothing to stop Kyle Pitts. I don't care what decisions the coach makes. It was like watching Scrap Iron Gadaski try to tackle Andre the Giant. Bowles could try Option A, Option B or Option Z. We weren't going to stop the Falcons with the players we had on the field.Was it Bowles coaching that lost the game, or being outmanned? I think it was mostly the latter.Not to defend the job Bowles is doing but....
…proceeds to defend Bowles.
What I don't know is when this team was assembled, what was Bowles role? The Bucs decided to roll with more draft picks and UDFAs than any team in recent memory. They decided to stock the practice squad with the players they cut rather than scouring the waiver wire to find castoffs from other teams. Everyone was saying how great it was, but it turns out that maybe they could have used a little more help. Did this happen because Licht was overly confident in his ability to draft and sign UDFAs? Or was Bowles too loyal wanting a tight knit group and told Licht "We're good with our group of players..." Or some combination. To the extent that Bowles didn't push for bringing in any more competition for the depth players on this team, then that's on Bowles. If he pushed for it and didn't get it, then that's on Licht. We'll never know.
dude, how many times do we have to say it, Bowles lost this game. that fake punt when the defense was finally starting to play half decent was the end of the game. Why would you take such a high risk play...and then you run it to boot...only fake punts i seen work have been passes but i digress.
the defense sucks which ok blame Licht for deciding to bring back Wirfs, Evans, etc. rather than keep Davis but decisions had to be made given the dead cap space; and Licht chose correctly
IMO he's not a very good HC but he will probably get 1 more year since they overachieved last year. If Coen starts getting HC interviews though the Glazers ought to move fast and make the right business decision.
well they knew he wasn't a good head coach when they made him head coach. that's the ridiculous part
most coaches that get second head coaching gigs were good elsewhere or somewhat successful to warrant it.
Lovie Smith, for example, was good for a while in Chicago.
Andy Reid, very good with the Eagles. Even better with the Chiefs
Doug Pederson, Mike McCarthy, and Jon Gruden. Not the best, but they have SuperBowls on their resume
Sean Payton, pretty good run with the Saints.
Jim Harbaugh, had the 49ers buzzing
Todd Bowles failed miserably in his first stint. Ranks up there with Raheem Morris and Dan Quinn hires. Now both those coaches look like they have a great chance to make the playoffs in their first year but let's not crown them yet. Brian Daboll had a good first year too and likely out of a job this offseason.
Anybody watching the game could see we could do nothing to stop Kyle Pitts.
This is from SR's response to one of the post game questions:
"Backup safety Kaevon Merriweather played on Sunday and gave up the first touchdown to Kyle Pitts after he was beaten badly in man coverage, which is not his strength. Then we saw backup cornerback Josh Hayes replace undrafted rookie cornerback Tyrek Funderburk after he had a hand in giving up a pair of touchdowns."
Might explain why the safeties are running all over the filed lol
well they knew he wasn't a good head coach when they made him head coach. that's the ridiculous part
most coaches that get second head coaching gigs were good elsewhere or somewhat successful to warrant it.
That is a strange argument, but the Bucs hired Bowles AT ARIANS' URGING to keep continuity for a Super Bowl team, right?
February 1, 2022 - Brady retires
March 14, 2022 - Brady UNRETIRES
March 31, 2022 - Arians steps down and Bucs appoint Bowles
Bowles was part of a team that won a Super Bowl and that win came with the defense SHINING, so that was the "good elsewhere or somewhat successful to warrant it,"right? Hes just an internal promotion driven in large part by the "keep the band together" approach after Brady un-retired.
And LAST SEASON he had even more "good elsewhere or somewhat successful to warrant it," right? With almost NO PLAYER HELP?
The standout difference this season so far is INJURIES.
Not saying Bowles is great, just that everyone was signing a different tune as recently as the Detroit game LOL
(The Bucs would have been hard pressed to hire a head coach outside of Bowles because what HC wants to come here with Brady "retiring for good" and the team a billion $ in dead money so no FAs. Bowles REPORTEDLY couldnt get several OCs to come here.)
"We don't want to change the defense. If you put Bowles out on the street, there will be teams lining up around the block to hire him as DC."
LOL!!!!!
Hahaha I knew I wasn’t the only one that laughed at that nonsense.
