He wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other
Mayfield: 21/34, 173 yards, 5.09 YPA, 61.8 Comp %, 2 TD, 0 Int, and 94.4 QB rating
Cousins: 33/44, 344 yards, 7.82 YPA, 75.0 Comp %, 2 TD, 1 Int, and 102.8 QB rating
I really don't understand your penchant for posting verifiably wrong information. Any other strawmen you want to break out?
Sorry, there’s no longer a comparison.
That’s the point.
We agree.
He wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other
Mayfield: 21/34, 173 yards, 5.09 YPA, 61.8 Comp %, 2 TD, 0 Int, and 94.4 QB rating
Cousins: 33/44, 344 yards, 7.82 YPA, 75.0 Comp %, 2 TD, 1 Int, and 102.8 QB rating
I really don't understand your penchant for posting verifiably wrong information. Any other strawmen you want to break out?
Sorry, there’s no longer a comparison.
That’s the point.
We agree.
We agree that Baker made his team good enough to beat Kirk’s team.
it proves what Vikings fans are now saying: he has big stats during the season…but doesn’t have it to make a playoff run. He’s also been that guy no matter how many weapons you put around him.
He wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other
Mayfield: 21/34, 173 yards, 5.09 YPA, 61.8 Comp %, 2 TD, 0 Int, and 94.4 QB rating
Cousins: 33/44, 344 yards, 7.82 YPA, 75.0 Comp %, 2 TD, 1 Int, and 102.8 QB rating
I really don't understand your penchant for posting verifiably wrong information. Any other strawmen you want to break out?
Sorry, there’s no longer a comparison.
That’s the point.
We agree.
We agree that Baker made his team good enough to beat Kirk’s team.
it proves what Vikings fans are now saying: he has big stats during the season…but doesn’t have it to make a playoff run. He’s also been that guy no matter how many weapons you put around him.
LOL this guy! you gotta hand it to him. He's not letting go of Baker's jock strap no matter what evidence/stats anyone can produce. Baker playing an average game is the reason the Bucs beat the Vikings. C'mon man!!
Its some sort of mental illnessHe wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other
Mayfield: 21/34, 173 yards, 5.09 YPA, 61.8 Comp %, 2 TD, 0 Int, and 94.4 QB rating
Cousins: 33/44, 344 yards, 7.82 YPA, 75.0 Comp %, 2 TD, 1 Int, and 102.8 QB rating
I really don't understand your penchant for posting verifiably wrong information. Any other strawmen you want to break out?
Sorry, there’s no longer a comparison.
That’s the point.
We agree.
We agree that Baker made his team good enough to beat Kirk’s team.
it proves what Vikings fans are now saying: he has big stats during the season…but doesn’t have it to make a playoff run. He’s also been that guy no matter how many weapons you put around him.
LOL this guy! you gotta hand it to him. He's not letting go of Baker's jock strap no matter what evidence/stats anyone can produce. Baker playing an average game is the reason the Bucs beat the Vikings. C'mon man!!
with 7 extra years of abuse
And, according to you, MULTIPLE Achilles tears.
Giving me historical stats for a guy who’s best years are behind him, now, who despite those stats is 1-4 in playoffs…who is recovering from a torn achilles, who will be 36 y/o this season…is not worth the debate.He wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other
Mayfield: 21/34, 173 yards, 5.09 YPA, 61.8 Comp %, 2 TD, 0 Int, and 94.4 QB rating
Cousins: 33/44, 344 yards, 7.82 YPA, 75.0 Comp %, 2 TD, 1 Int, and 102.8 QB rating
I really don't understand your penchant for posting verifiably wrong information. Any other strawmen you want to break out?
Sorry, there’s no longer a comparison.
That’s the point.
We agree.
We agree that Baker made his team good enough to beat Kirk’s team.
it proves what Vikings fans are now saying: he has big stats during the season…but doesn’t have it to make a playoff run. He’s also been that guy no matter how many weapons you put around him.
LOL this guy! you gotta hand it to him. He's not letting go of Baker's jock strap no matter what evidence/stats anyone can produce. Baker playing an average game is the reason the Bucs beat the Vikings. C'mon man!!
I said, we may have to consider him, but Cousins is not our first consideration, and likely not the first consideration for most teams in need of a FA/QB…it is a silly topic to argue.
Giving me historical stats for a guy who’s best years are behind him,
Prior to his injury last season, he was on pace to throw for 5,000 yards, 40 TD's, against 10 INT's, at a near 70% completion rate.
Something Baker could only ever dream of doing.
who is recovering from a torn achilles
And, according to you, the 2nd time he's done it (though you refuse to mention when his 1st one was).
and likely not the first consideration for most teams in need of a FA/QB…it is a silly topic to argue.
Yet, the National Media has him as the unanimous #1 FA QB.
You know, another fabrication you got called out on.
Last week was a rough one for you. Was hoping you'd come back better, White Lyin'.
I said, we may have to consider him
No, I called you out when what you said was Cousins wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other. The stats of the game proved otherwise and then you said Baker's average game is the reason the Bucs beat the Vikings. That is serious cult-like statements.
Baker beat the Vikes. Period.I said, we may have to consider him
No, I called you out when what you said was Cousins wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other. The stats of the game proved otherwise and then you said Baker's average game is the reason the Bucs beat the Vikings. That is serious cult-like statements.
Baker made our offense work. Cousins would not have - behind the line we had. We would need Tom Brady-like o-line protection and even then, as the Vikes have discovered - you end up with a Wild Card exit ticket.
and the words: “next”…comes to mind.
Baker fits this offense - Kirk absolutely needs a clean pocket. That’s going to be difficult to replicate with many teams looking for a FA/QB.
That has been my point. You guys throwing stats about a QB like Cousins came out of a discussion about what options are/were there…the only one you guys could come up with was Kirk Cousins. He could not have had the success Baker did, behind this line, and with this team, and the Dave Canales offense. Cousins would have been more of a sitting duck than he was through the 8 games he played in Minny.
That is serious cult-like statements
What made it “cult-like” was the bold faced lies and outlandish fabrications to bolster his/her arguments.
- Claiming the National Media favored Baker over Cousins as the top FA QB
- Making up, not one, but two ACL injuries
- Making up a SECOND torn Achilles tear/injury
- Etc.
I mean, that’s just pathetic, even for these parts.
Again, some in national media.
ACL was a mistake.
Never said 2 achilles tears - you would have posted it if you could have found it.
TraskForce see what they want, and they have the argument they wish they could have.
Baker is the best option we had. He proved it, the OC was then brought in to leverage his success in a similar offensive mindset.
He wins, behind this line, and with these weapons. He needs a team to make it work. This team was that fit.
He’s not Drew Brees, he’s not Aaron Rogers, but neither is Kirk Cousins.
But, Kirk Cousins was not, and is not, a viable option inside those parameters.
TraskForce made it about something else.
He could not have had the success Baker did, behind this line, and with this team, and the Dave Canales offense.
I'm not as big a fan of idle speculation as you are.
My favorite is when he claims Mayfield outplayed Cousins, gets provided head to head numbers. Then brings up stuff that has nothing to do with that said H2H match-up.That is serious cult-like statements
What made it “cult-like” was the bold faced lies and outlandish fabrications to bolster his/her arguments.
- Claiming the National Media favored Baker over Cousins as the top FA QB
- Making up, not one, but two ACL injuries
- Making up a SECOND torn Achilles tear/injury
- Etc.
I mean, that’s just pathetic, even for these parts.
The same Kirk Cousins who beat the Niners on MNF without his #1 WR Justin Jefferson, and threw for nearly 400 yards. Could not have had similar success as Baker Mayield!He could not have had the success Baker did, behind this line, and with this team, and the Dave Canales offense.
I'm not as big a fan of idle speculation as you are.
