What you’re looking at is failed fantasy footballers, TraskForce cultists & Baker-Haters - trying to obfuscate.yep, that’s the mistake - it was an Achilles. That one’s the one you need to worry about
Oh…so it wasn’t the first ACL tear or the second ACL tear?
Only took a week, but good to see you owning the fact you had either:
1. ZERO idea of what the hell you were talking about
or…
2. Blatantly fabricated stuff to bolster your argument that continually moves goal posts.
We move on, White Lyin’, we move on…
Baker Mayfield is the better QB for the Bucs, the Bucs know it, most Buc fans know it, and at some level, even you know it.
Kirk’s only in the conversation as a fall-back.
The point is Kirk Cousins > Baker Mayfield. That's all, I don't know why you can't comprehend that.So, you want Kirk over Baker, too? Noted.It's quite hilarious because every NFL media outlet, non-bias ones at that, was posted by @DonkeyHunter had an injured Cousins over Mayfield in free agency.My favorite part is when you assert that the injured Kirk Cousins is a better option than Baker Mayfield for the Buccaneers.My favorite is when he claims Mayfield outplayed Cousins, gets provided head to head numbers. Then brings up stuff that has nothing to do with that said H2H match-up.That is serious cult-like statements
What made it “cult-like” was the bold faced lies and outlandish fabrications to bolster his/her arguments.
- Claiming the National Media favored Baker over Cousins as the top FA QB
- Making up, not one, but two ACL injuries
- Making up a SECOND torn Achilles tear/injury
- Etc.
I mean, that’s just pathetic, even for these parts.
It is actually hilarious.
Then Buc fans talk about the losing team and pine for that QB…
Baker sealed the game on the final drive.
The point, lest it get burried under numerous posts: Kirk Cousins would not have made it 8 games behind this line, he was not an option last season, and after the way Baker handled the season, he is not an option, here, this season.
Lots of stats - lots of missing playoff runs & when his team did make it to the wildcard round - early exits.
It’s only an argument until we see what the league thinks of both of them.
Everything else is just pointless hypotheticals. Nobody in here is saying we want Kirk Cousins to be our QB for the future, just spewing the facts. You said Mayfield outplayed Cousins week 1, which was a lie. Then tried to bring up other things that have NOTHING to do with your lie. You get caught in a lie and just start deflecting and saying non-relevant things to your wrong statements.
The ol' White Lyin keeps on lying and can't help himself LOLIt's quite hilarious because every NFL media outlet, non-bias ones at that, was posted by @DonkeyHunter had an injured Cousins over Mayfield in free agency.
They're not the national media though.
Heavy.com Sports is.
White Lyin' gonna keep lyin'....
The point is Kirk Cousins > Baker Mayfield. That's all, I don't know why you can't comprehend that.So, you want Kirk over Baker, too? Noted.It's quite hilarious because every NFL media outlet, non-bias ones at that, was posted by @DonkeyHunter had an injured Cousins over Mayfield in free agency.My favorite part is when you assert that the injured Kirk Cousins is a better option than Baker Mayfield for the Buccaneers.My favorite is when he claims Mayfield outplayed Cousins, gets provided head to head numbers. Then brings up stuff that has nothing to do with that said H2H match-up.That is serious cult-like statements
What made it “cult-like” was the bold faced lies and outlandish fabrications to bolster his/her arguments.
- Claiming the National Media favored Baker over Cousins as the top FA QB
- Making up, not one, but two ACL injuries
- Making up a SECOND torn Achilles tear/injury
- Etc.
I mean, that’s just pathetic, even for these parts.
It is actually hilarious.
Then Buc fans talk about the losing team and pine for that QB…
Baker sealed the game on the final drive.
The point, lest it get burried under numerous posts: Kirk Cousins would not have made it 8 games behind this line, he was not an option last season, and after the way Baker handled the season, he is not an option, here, this season.
Lots of stats - lots of missing playoff runs & when his team did make it to the wildcard round - early exits.
It’s only an argument until we see what the league thinks of both of them.
Everything else is just pointless hypotheticals. Nobody in here is saying we want Kirk Cousins to be our QB for the future, just spewing the facts. You said Mayfield outplayed Cousins week 1, which was a lie. Then tried to bring up other things that have NOTHING to do with your lie. You get caught in a lie and just start deflecting and saying non-relevant things to your wrong statements.
What makes you think you're right about anything~?
In any event, my post is no more ludicrous than your QB takes based on FF stats which makes me think you may not have yet reached puberty
No, you just went with changing the argument, because the original premise was: who would have been a better FA/QB for the Bucs.The point is Kirk Cousins > Baker Mayfield. That's all, I don't know why you can't comprehend that.So, you want Kirk over Baker, too? Noted.It's quite hilarious because every NFL media outlet, non-bias ones at that, was posted by @DonkeyHunter had an injured Cousins over Mayfield in free agency.My favorite part is when you assert that the injured Kirk Cousins is a better option than Baker Mayfield for the Buccaneers.My favorite is when he claims Mayfield outplayed Cousins, gets provided head to head numbers. Then brings up stuff that has nothing to do with that said H2H match-up.That is serious cult-like statements
What made it “cult-like” was the bold faced lies and outlandish fabrications to bolster his/her arguments.
- Claiming the National Media favored Baker over Cousins as the top FA QB
- Making up, not one, but two ACL injuries
- Making up a SECOND torn Achilles tear/injury
- Etc.
I mean, that’s just pathetic, even for these parts.
It is actually hilarious.
Then Buc fans talk about the losing team and pine for that QB…
Baker sealed the game on the final drive.
The point, lest it get burried under numerous posts: Kirk Cousins would not have made it 8 games behind this line, he was not an option last season, and after the way Baker handled the season, he is not an option, here, this season.
Lots of stats - lots of missing playoff runs & when his team did make it to the wildcard round - early exits.
It’s only an argument until we see what the league thinks of both of them.
Everything else is just pointless hypotheticals. Nobody in here is saying we want Kirk Cousins to be our QB for the future, just spewing the facts. You said Mayfield outplayed Cousins week 1, which was a lie. Then tried to bring up other things that have NOTHING to do with your lie. You get caught in a lie and just start deflecting and saying non-relevant things to your wrong statements.
Which is why Kirk Cousins was introduced INTO the conversation.
Regardless, I still assert that if Baker were to become a free agent, and if Kirk Cousins were to become a free agent, Baker would be the preferred
Because any team considering Kirk Cousins, would need an o-line that could protect him in a “clean pocket”.
Due to Kirk Cousins age (vs Baker’s), and Kirk’s recent severe injury/surgery/recovery, Baker would be the top target in FA.
Baker’s last drive in their heads-up play - stopped their comeback & sealed the Bucs victory.
Itvwas this game that drove the steak into the TraskForce/Baker-Hater cult.
Which almost morphed into the Kirk Cousins cult - after several pages of useless/pointless Kirk Cousins debate.
Cousins would be a fall-back/worst case scenario for the Bucs.
In any event, my post is no more ludicrous than your QB takes based on FF stats which makes me think you may not have yet reached puberty
It’s pretty humorous that standard QB statistics like Yards, TD’s, Int, etc. are “Fantasy Football” stats to the Baker Bro’s, simply because they prove Cousins is the better QB, and thus the #1 QB FA.
Go look at the FA list produced by the national media and see who the #1 QB is on the market. That's what makes me "right".The point is Kirk Cousins > Baker Mayfield. That's all, I don't know why you can't comprehend that.So, you want Kirk over Baker, too? Noted.It's quite hilarious because every NFL media outlet, non-bias ones at that, was posted by @DonkeyHunter had an injured Cousins over Mayfield in free agency.My favorite part is when you assert that the injured Kirk Cousins is a better option than Baker Mayfield for the Buccaneers.My favorite is when he claims Mayfield outplayed Cousins, gets provided head to head numbers. Then brings up stuff that has nothing to do with that said H2H match-up.That is serious cult-like statements
What made it “cult-like” was the bold faced lies and outlandish fabrications to bolster his/her arguments.
- Claiming the National Media favored Baker over Cousins as the top FA QB
- Making up, not one, but two ACL injuries
- Making up a SECOND torn Achilles tear/injury
- Etc.
I mean, that’s just pathetic, even for these parts.
It is actually hilarious.
Then Buc fans talk about the losing team and pine for that QB…
Baker sealed the game on the final drive.
The point, lest it get burried under numerous posts: Kirk Cousins would not have made it 8 games behind this line, he was not an option last season, and after the way Baker handled the season, he is not an option, here, this season.
Lots of stats - lots of missing playoff runs & when his team did make it to the wildcard round - early exits.
It’s only an argument until we see what the league thinks of both of them.
Everything else is just pointless hypotheticals. Nobody in here is saying we want Kirk Cousins to be our QB for the future, just spewing the facts. You said Mayfield outplayed Cousins week 1, which was a lie. Then tried to bring up other things that have NOTHING to do with your lie. You get caught in a lie and just start deflecting and saying non-relevant things to your wrong statements.
What makes you think you're right about anything~?
In any event, my post is no more ludicrous than your QB takes based on FF stats which makes me think you may not have yet reached puberty
Its really not that hard to understand. You definitely weren't on the right side of the No Child Left Behind in Act.
No, the final argument will be who the Bucs sign as their starting QB, this season.In any event, my post is no more ludicrous than your QB takes based on FF stats which makes me think you may not have yet reached puberty
It’s pretty humorous that standard QB statistics like Yards, TD’s, Int, etc. are “Fantasy Football” stats to the Baker Bro’s, simply because they prove Cousins is the better QB, and thus the #1 QB FA.
None of us care anything about Kirk Cousins stats. He went down after 17 sacks, Baker endured 40.
Baker also won a playoff game, and had us in the divisional playoff game until the bitter end.
Kirk hasn’t done that in several years, despite whatever regular season stats he posts.
For example, the Bucs may have to settle for Kirk, but only if they can’t sign Baker.
I assert that, despite the historical data, that is the way it will play out for many teams looking for a FA/QB.
Go look at the FA list produced by the national media and see who the #1 QB is on the market
But, is Heavy Sports on that list?
Otherwise, it’s meaningless.
I didn't change anything. This is exactly what you said to @Biggs3535 in pages prior.No, you just went with changing the argument, because the original premise was: who would have been a better FA/QB for the Bucs.The point is Kirk Cousins > Baker Mayfield. That's all, I don't know why you can't comprehend that.So, you want Kirk over Baker, too? Noted.It's quite hilarious because every NFL media outlet, non-bias ones at that, was posted by @DonkeyHunter had an injured Cousins over Mayfield in free agency.My favorite part is when you assert that the injured Kirk Cousins is a better option than Baker Mayfield for the Buccaneers.My favorite is when he claims Mayfield outplayed Cousins, gets provided head to head numbers. Then brings up stuff that has nothing to do with that said H2H match-up.That is serious cult-like statements
What made it “cult-like” was the bold faced lies and outlandish fabrications to bolster his/her arguments.
- Claiming the National Media favored Baker over Cousins as the top FA QB
- Making up, not one, but two ACL injuries
- Making up a SECOND torn Achilles tear/injury
- Etc.
I mean, that’s just pathetic, even for these parts.
It is actually hilarious.
Then Buc fans talk about the losing team and pine for that QB…
Baker sealed the game on the final drive.
The point, lest it get burried under numerous posts: Kirk Cousins would not have made it 8 games behind this line, he was not an option last season, and after the way Baker handled the season, he is not an option, here, this season.
Lots of stats - lots of missing playoff runs & when his team did make it to the wildcard round - early exits.
It’s only an argument until we see what the league thinks of both of them.
Everything else is just pointless hypotheticals. Nobody in here is saying we want Kirk Cousins to be our QB for the future, just spewing the facts. You said Mayfield outplayed Cousins week 1, which was a lie. Then tried to bring up other things that have NOTHING to do with your lie. You get caught in a lie and just start deflecting and saying non-relevant things to your wrong statements.
Which is why Kirk Cousins was introduced INTO the conversation.
Regardless, I still assert that if Baker were to become a free agent, and if Kirk Cousins were to become a free agent, Baker would be the preferred
Because any team considering Kirk Cousins, would need an o-line that could protect him in a “clean pocket”.
Due to Kirk Cousins age (vs Baker’s), and Kirk’s recent severe injury/surgery/recovery, Baker would be the top target in FA.
Baker’s last drive in their heads-up play - stopped their comeback & sealed the Bucs victory.
Itvwas this game that drove the steak into the TraskForce/Baker-Hater cult.
Which almost morphed into the Kirk Cousins cult - after several pages of useless/pointless Kirk Cousins debate.
Cousins would be a fall-back/worst case scenario for the Bucs.
"He wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other"
That's the lie we're talking about buddy. We aint talking about who is the best QB for the Bucs right now. You got caught trying to boost up/lie Baker Mayfield and how he played against him head to head week 1. Now your moving the goal posts to say Baker is better because he is young, not injured, survived behind the OL etc..
Yes, national media is how this will be settled.
Yes, national media is how this will be settled.
Then, it’s settled.
Post your list of national media outlets that have Baker ranked over Cousins in the FA discussion.
I already provided mine.
The team won, we had the better QB play.I didn't change anything. This is exactly what you said to @Biggs3535 in pages prior.No, you just went with changing the argument, because the original premise was: who would have been a better FA/QB for the Bucs.The point is Kirk Cousins > Baker Mayfield. That's all, I don't know why you can't comprehend that.So, you want Kirk over Baker, too? Noted.It's quite hilarious because every NFL media outlet, non-bias ones at that, was posted by @DonkeyHunter had an injured Cousins over Mayfield in free agency.My favorite part is when you assert that the injured Kirk Cousins is a better option than Baker Mayfield for the Buccaneers.My favorite is when he claims Mayfield outplayed Cousins, gets provided head to head numbers. Then brings up stuff that has nothing to do with that said H2H match-up.That is serious cult-like statements
What made it “cult-like” was the bold faced lies and outlandish fabrications to bolster his/her arguments.
- Claiming the National Media favored Baker over Cousins as the top FA QB
- Making up, not one, but two ACL injuries
- Making up a SECOND torn Achilles tear/injury
- Etc.
I mean, that’s just pathetic, even for these parts.
It is actually hilarious.
Then Buc fans talk about the losing team and pine for that QB…
Baker sealed the game on the final drive.
The point, lest it get burried under numerous posts: Kirk Cousins would not have made it 8 games behind this line, he was not an option last season, and after the way Baker handled the season, he is not an option, here, this season.
Lots of stats - lots of missing playoff runs & when his team did make it to the wildcard round - early exits.
It’s only an argument until we see what the league thinks of both of them.
Everything else is just pointless hypotheticals. Nobody in here is saying we want Kirk Cousins to be our QB for the future, just spewing the facts. You said Mayfield outplayed Cousins week 1, which was a lie. Then tried to bring up other things that have NOTHING to do with your lie. You get caught in a lie and just start deflecting and saying non-relevant things to your wrong statements.
Which is why Kirk Cousins was introduced INTO the conversation.
Regardless, I still assert that if Baker were to become a free agent, and if Kirk Cousins were to become a free agent, Baker would be the preferred
Because any team considering Kirk Cousins, would need an o-line that could protect him in a “clean pocket”.
Due to Kirk Cousins age (vs Baker’s), and Kirk’s recent severe injury/surgery/recovery, Baker would be the top target in FA.
Baker’s last drive in their heads-up play - stopped their comeback & sealed the Bucs victory.
Itvwas this game that drove the steak into the TraskForce/Baker-Hater cult.
Which almost morphed into the Kirk Cousins cult - after several pages of useless/pointless Kirk Cousins debate.
Cousins would be a fall-back/worst case scenario for the Bucs.
"He wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other"
That's the lie we're talking about buddy. We aint talking about who is the best QB for the Bucs right now. You got caught trying to boost up/lie Baker Mayfield and how he played against him head to head week 1. Now your moving the goal posts to say Baker is better because he is young, not injured, survived behind the OL etc..
It’s not my fault Kirk still folds under intense pressure. Vikes got good pressure on Bake, too, but he didn’t fold. In fact, he capped the game sealing drive by lowering his shoulder and picking up the first down.
Bucs win.
Baker is better than Kirk.
Not one poster in here has said Bucs should go after Kirk Cousins instead of Baker Mayfield. But somehow, telling a poster Cousins is better than Mayfield means we want him as our QB for the future.
Or, we’ll see who the Bucs want to sign. We’ll also see what the Vikes decide to do with their FA/QB.Yes, national media is how this will be settled.
Then, it’s settled.
Post your list of national media outlets that have Baker ranked over Cousins in the FA discussion.
I already provided mine.
