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White Tiger
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @white-tiger

None of you actually believe Cousins was a viable option, or even is a viable first option this season.

You’re right. 

That’s a phantom argument that you made up to back your claim that Baker was a better QB than Cousins. 

White Lyin’…

It's a strawman argument you introduced, it's silly. Saying it was my premise, just makes you a lyin', donkey-faced, pony soldier.

You've already (grudgingly) said you're ok with Baker. If the SI report is true, and the spotrac.com analysis is true, even you agree with it, and it's what I said would be: don't focus on one year, the average payout is acceptable & gives us the best chance to sign our top 5 critical FA's, and extend Wirffs. If we get Baker for less, great.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 29, 2024 11:59 am
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Posted by: @white-tiger

It's a strawman argument you introduced, it's silly. Saying it was my premise, just makes you a lyin', donkey-faced, pony soldier

Shocked the Lyin’ sack of sh*t continues to lie. 

Still can’t provide receipts?

White Lyin’ is a cowardly Lyin’…

 
Posted : Feb. 29, 2024 1:24 pm
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Posted by: @bucsbits

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I mean make no mistake about it. Jason Licht and Bucs 100% prefer baker over cousins

you might say he's "the #1 free agent QB" . . ..  to us. LOL

 

Clearly.

Baker certainly appears to be the Bucs primary option. Maybe the Bucs don’t want Baker testing the market?

 

 
Posted : Feb. 29, 2024 1:54 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

Posted by: @white-tiger

Interesting, so it appears a few of us see the same things as the folks over at Bleacher Report? That’s odd, have they not been paying attention to the analysis of the anti-Baker folks on the Red Board?

 

It almost sounds like what some of us have been asserting - now even even national sports media think Mayfield would be the preferred FA QB?

Let's dive into this, shall we?

FREE AGENT RANKINGS

PFF

  • Cousins - #2
  • Winfield - #8
  • Evans - #13
  • LVD - #39
  • Devin White (LOL) - #73
  • Mayfield - #75

CBS Sports

  • Cousins - #2
  • Winfield - #9
  • Evans - #13
  • Mayfield - #19

PFN

  • Cousins - #1
  • Winfield - #8
  • Evans - #12
  • David - #37
  • Mayfield - #51

FOX Sports

  • Cousins - #2
  • Winfield - #8
  • Evans - #10
  • Mayfield - #13

USA Today

  • Cousins - #4
  • Winfield - #8
  • Evans - #13
  • Mayfield - #20

 

I mean, I can keep going, but I think the point has been made. 

Contrary to what @white-tiger posted, the national sports media DOES NOT think that Mayfield is the "preferred FA QB". 

Actually, they don't think he's the first, second (and in numerous cases...third) most important FA on this team. 

Quite the zinger...

 

 

 

I probably wouldn't let evidence like this influence my inferior opinion either.

 

 

More evidence to ignore:

Kirk Cousins: 4 years, $180M with $100M guaranteed.

Baker Mayfield: 3 years, $100M with $50M guaranteed.

 

Posted by: @white-tiger

He wasn’t as good as Baker in the heads up game they played against each other, and he is 7 years older, with 7 extra years of abuse.

Sorry, there’s no longer a comparison.

That’s the point.

lolz

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 3:45 pm
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I would be terrified if we signed an aging Kirk Cousins, fresh off a surgically repaired Achilles, to a $180m, 4 year deal, here.

Minnesota was, and so would you.

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 4:06 pm
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So, is this your assertion that the Falcons “won” the QB derby?

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 4:15 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

So, is this your assertion that the Falcons “won” the QB derby?

No, my assertion is and was that Kirk Cousins is/was the #1 FA QB. Both their stats, and now contracts, verify that simple, very obvious statement.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 5:21 pm
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Once again, we’ll see if the contract bears up under a 36 year old QB, with recovering from a torn achilles.

Maybe he won’t need to move much?

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 5:33 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @white-tiger

So, is this your assertion that the Falcons “won” the QB derby?

No, my assertion is and was that Kirk Cousins is/was the #1 FA QB. Both their stats, and now contracts, verify that simple, very obvious statement.

 

Apparently, not for the Bucs. They could have jumped in the Kirk sweepstakes, they didn’t.

Baragain Mayfield’s contract allowing us a lot more additional position flexibility.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 5:44 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

is/was the #1 FA QB.

didnt Wilson go first?

 

lol

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 6:55 pm
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Maybe White Tiger should consider changing his handle to White Flag.

Clearly Cousins was the #1 QB FA, hate that he ends up with a division rival.

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 7:49 pm
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Why sureender? We did NOT sign an aging, injured, QB who is taking advantage of Atlanta’s great need at QB.

Better that Atlanta soaks up that $180m. Believe the rumors were about Baker Mayfield, initially.

Besides, we’ll never know, Baker signed Sunday night and never made it to free agency. Minnesota decided he wasn’t worth that $45m/$100 gtd - they essentially passed on Kirk.

Bucs signed Baker. 

 
Posted : Mar. 11, 2024 8:56 pm
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Posted by: @seekpar

Clearly Cousins was the #1 QB FA

It a funny and typical Red Board conversation, in part because the answer depends on the question and so that allows posters to mostly post past each other.  

 
Posted : Mar. 12, 2024 10:14 am
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Posted by: @bucsbits

because the answer depends on the question

Wut? When does the answer not depend upon the question?

 

 
Posted : Mar. 12, 2024 10:17 am
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Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @bucsbits

because the answer depends on the question

Wut? When does the answer not depend upon the question?

 

 

many times lol

 

What I meant is that it depends on how you frame "#1 free agent" and so the framing of that question allows for different answers.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 12, 2024 10:20 am
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