This issue should be priority #1 this off season for the new GM. (Apologies to Darrelle Revis) he's the best and most important player on this team. We cannot let him go thru 2014 without an extension. 6 years/$60 million/$36 million
I think he probably gets a little bit more than that, but its a good benchmark. I could see 6 years/$66 million
Not sure he'd want to sign a 666 contract. Bump it up to 6 years/$67 million to be safe. :)
I was thinking 6 years $85M ... That would be an increase. Can't really see him getting a cut or freeze.But, what do I know? This new CBA throws a curve into it...
I could see a 6 year, 90 million extension. It would be sweet if we could pull it off with no guarantees like what Revis got.
I could see a 6 year, 90 million extension. It would be sweet if we could pull it off with no guarantees like what Revis got.
It would be sweet but its not going to happen. I also dont see him getting $15 mil a year. He will probably get around $13 mil a year with a big chunk guaranteed. Suh's contract extension they are working on now will be the benchmark and I dont see the Lions giving Suh $15 mil with the contracts they just gave CJ and Stafford. That would mean they have 3 players taking up $42 mil in annual salary (roughly 34%)...I just cant see it. I am glad they are working on Suh's first since their budget is tighter than ours currently.
for $15M per year or $13.5M per year and $40M guaranteed, let him go...he isn't a 12 or 15 sacks guys like Sapp, there is a DT like McCoy nearly every draft...i don't care about the Franchise Tag, i don't care about the Revis deal... Dominik era is over! he's not worth $15M per year... let him test free agency if he think someone is ready to offer $15M per year for a DL with no +10 sacks season...Geno Atkins got $9.5M per year after an All-pro 12.5 sacks season and he play for the Bengals not the Patriots, Broncos or 49ers... and you want to give more than $10/11M to McCoy?do the Patriots, Broncos, 49ers, Seahawks, Saints... pay someone who isn't a QB more than $10/11M per year?a guy like Vince Wilfork got $8M per year in 2010(salary cap in 2011: $120M / cap value per year: 6.66%)!then you should give $10M per year to David when Patrick Willis makes $8M per year, Navorro Bowman $7M, Sean Lee $6M, Daryl Washington $6M?like i said before, you should never pay 10% or more per year of the salary cap for a Top player unless it's a QB!and if you want to build a long term contender, you can't pay 20, 30, 40 or 50% more than what the other team spend for the same player!you know what a perenial contender doesn't make? they don't give 10% or more per year of the salary cap for one player unless it's a Top QB!Dominik mistake with Revis contract doesn't kill our cap because the bucs don't have a franchise QB... but if you make a second mistake don't cry when the Bucs will have no cap room in 2015 or are in cap hell in 2016!$18M per year for 2 WR's, $30M for 3 DB's, $30M for the Oline, $5-6M for K/P, $15M for McCoy and your Jared Allen/Johnson/Orapko at $10M... then what... you cant keep everyone...that's why you don't overpay to win in this league, no matter if it's McCoy, Suh or JJW... if the guy isn't P.Manning, T.Brady, A.Rodgers, D.Brees, you shouldn't spend more than $10/11M per year if you want to win!IT'S A TEAM SPORT!
So according to you, it wont matter what the top QBs make when the Seahawks have to re-up Russell Wilson huh?
Bad example because wasn't one of those bonus baby rookies pre-lockout. McCoy isn't take a paycut.
So your best round ball figure. McCoy's next contract will be....
If they do it this off-season, 7 years, $105M.
You're wrong on a few things. The market isn't dictated by what you want as a player. The market is dictated by what the highest bidder will pay you. I can tell you that neither of them are going to receive anything near 7yrs/$105 million. If no one pays them that amount, they aren't going to hold out. They are going to take the best dealfor tthem. At best it will be 6yrs/$70 million/$38 million guaranteed.
You're wrong on a few things. The market isn't dictated by what you want as a player. The market is dictated by what the highest bidder will pay you. I can tell you that neither of them are going to receive anything near 7yrs/$105 million. If no one pays them that amount, they aren't going to hold out. They are going to take the best dealfor tthem. At best it will be 6yrs/$70 million/$38 million guaranteed.
You know Mario Williams got 6 years, $96M right?
he isn't a 12 or 15 sacks guys like Sapp, there is a DT like McCoy nearly every draft...
Sapp only had 12 or more sacks in a season twice. It's not common, even among the best players ever.
You're wrong on a few things. The market isn't dictated by what you want as a player. The market is dictated by what the highest bidder will pay you. I can tell you that neither of them are going to receive anything near 7yrs/$105 million. If no one pays them that amount, they aren't going to hold out. They are going to take the best dealfor tthem. At best it will be 6yrs/$70 million/$38 million guaranteed.
You know Mario Williams got 6 years, $96M right?
I also know that he's a DE. Not a DT.
for $15M per year or $13.5M per year and $40M guaranteed, let him go...he isn't a 12 or 15 sacks guys like Sapp, there is a DT like McCoy nearly every draft...i don't care about the Franchise Tag, i don't care about the Revis deal... Dominik era is over! he's not worth $15M per year... let him test free agency if he think someone is ready to offer $15M per year for a DL with no +10 sacks season...Geno Atkins got $9.5M per year after an All-pro 12.5 sacks season and he play for the Bengals not the Patriots, Broncos or 49ers... and you want to give more than $10/11M to McCoy?do the Patriots, Broncos, 49ers, Seahawks, Saints... pay someone who isn't a QB more than $10/11M per year?a guy like Vince Wilfork got $8M per year in 2010(salary cap in 2011: $120M / cap value per year: 6.66%)!then you should give $10M per year to David when Patrick Willis makes $8M per year, Navorro Bowman $7M, Sean Lee $6M, Daryl Washington $6M?like i said before, you should never pay 10% or more per year of the salary cap for a Top player unless it's a QB!and if you want to build a long term contender, you can't pay 20, 30, 40 or 50% more than what the other team spend for the same player!you know what a perenial contender doesn't make? they don't give 10% or more per year of the salary cap for one player unless it's a Top QB!Dominik mistake with Revis contract doesn't kill our cap because the bucs don't have a franchise QB... but if you make a second mistake don't cry when the Bucs will have no cap room in 2015 or are in cap hell in 2016!$18M per year for 2 WR's, $30M for 3 DB's, $30M for the Oline, $5-6M for K/P, $15M for McCoy and your Jared Allen/Johnson/Orapko at $10M... then what... you cant keep everyone...that's why you don't overpay to win in this league, no matter if it's McCoy, Suh or JJW... if the guy isn't P.Manning, T.Brady, A.Rodgers, D.Brees, you shouldn't spend more than $10/11M per year if you want to win!IT'S A TEAM SPORT!
Actually, for those of us who prefer actual number and not made up ones...Atkins got $10.665 mil a year. McCoy already gets $11 mil a year, so its not like a little bit more is going to cripple us.This little nugget of yours "there is a DT like McCoy nearly every draft..." is just downright laughable. Put the pipe down son.Also, your little rant about not paying anyone but a QB more than $10 mil a year...the best GM in the league has two D players making more than $10mil...but maybe you should let him know how NOT to build a winner since you obviously know.Ravens - Suggs (10.4), Ngata (12.1)
lol tell em
Again not the best example. There is alot of talk that Suggs is about to be released.
Again not the best example. There is alot of talk that Suggs is about to be released.
Because Flacco is making 20 million a year... Bucs won't have that problem for a while.
Again not the best example. There is alot of talk that Suggs is about to be released.
Because Flacco is making 20 million a year... Bucs won't have that problem for a while.
No. That's more because Suggs isn't worth a $12.4 million cap hit anymore. Fans need to get this fiction out of their head that Joe Flacco counts $120 million a year against their cap.
for $15M per year or $13.5M per year and $40M guaranteed, let him go...he isn't a 12 or 15 sacks guys like Sapp, there is a DT like McCoy nearly every draft...i don't care about the Franchise Tag, i don't care about the Revis deal... Dominik era is over! he's not worth $15M per year... let him test free agency if he think someone is ready to offer $15M per year for a DL with no +10 sacks season...Geno Atkins got $9.5M per year after an All-pro 12.5 sacks season and he play for the Bengals not the Patriots, Broncos or 49ers... and you want to give more than $10/11M to McCoy?do the Patriots, Broncos, 49ers, Seahawks, Saints... pay someone who isn't a QB more than $10/11M per year?a guy like Vince Wilfork got $8M per year in 2010(salary cap in 2011: $120M / cap value per year: 6.66%)!then you should give $10M per year to David when Patrick Willis makes $8M per year, Navorro Bowman $7M, Sean Lee $6M, Daryl Washington $6M?like i said before, you should never pay 10% or more per year of the salary cap for a Top player unless it's a QB!and if you want to build a long term contender, you can't pay 20, 30, 40 or 50% more than what the other team spend for the same player!you know what a perenial contender doesn't make? they don't give 10% or more per year of the salary cap for one player unless it's a Top QB!Dominik mistake with Revis contract doesn't kill our cap because the bucs don't have a franchise QB... but if you make a second mistake don't cry when the Bucs will have no cap room in 2015 or are in cap hell in 2016!$18M per year for 2 WR's, $30M for 3 DB's, $30M for the Oline, $5-6M for K/P, $15M for McCoy and your Jared Allen/Johnson/Orapko at $10M... then what... you cant keep everyone...that's why you don't overpay to win in this league, no matter if it's McCoy, Suh or JJW... if the guy isn't P.Manning, T.Brady, A.Rodgers, D.Brees, you shouldn't spend more than $10/11M per year if you want to win!IT'S A TEAM SPORT!
Actually, for those of us who prefer actual number and not made up ones...Atkins got $10.665 mil a year. McCoy already gets $11 mil a year, so its not like a little bit more is going to cripple us.This little nugget of yours "there is a DT like McCoy nearly every draft..." is just downright laughable. Put the pipe down son.Also, your little rant about not paying anyone but a QB more than $10 mil a year...the best GM in the league has two D players making more than $10mil...but maybe you should let him know how NOT to build a winner since you obviously know.Ravens - Suggs (10.4), Ngata (12.1)
you want to talk about the Ravens? no problemso Ngata and Flacco got $12M & $20M per year deal last year, first year they have to pay big $ for a QB...PRESENT 2014 CAP SPACE: The Ravens presently have 46 players under contract for 2014, amounting to a Salary Cap commitment of $115,940,321. That would put the Ravens at $12,558,889 under the projected Salary Cap (rollover around $1.5/2M), but again, that is with 46 players under contract. Once the Ravens have tendered their Restricted Free Agents (RFAs) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFAs) that available Cap space will be greatly reduced.In order to create some additional Cap space, the Ravens will likely release a few players who may have outlived their contract numbers.Ravens 2014 UFA's:TE Dennis PittaTE Ed **CENSORED**sonTE Dallas ClarkWR Jacoby JonesLT Eugene MonroeRT Michael OherDT Terrence CodyDL Arthur JonesLB Daryl SmithS James IhedigboS Jeromy MilesCB Corey Grahamsome RFA's:ILB Albert McClellanILB Josh BynesUFA's in 2015Terrell SuggsJameel McClainVonta Leach(some rookie contract in 2014)WR Torrey SmithCB Jimmy SmithQB Tyrod TaylorWR Tandon DossOG Jah ReidOLB Pernell McPheeCB Chykie Brownand it's with Ray Rice, Marshall Yanda and Elvis Dumervil each at $7M per yeargood luck Ozzie!
