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Posted by: @white-tiger

I think the same has been said about Baker Mayfield…but he’s that dawg you keep trying to get rid of, but always shows up with the best bird the morning of the hunt…

Lol. Let’s pump the brakes a bit.

He’s had 2 good (not elite) seasons in his 6 year career. 

Here’s hoping Coen can keep him on an upward trend.

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 12:30 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

I think the same has been said about Baker Mayfield…but he’s that dawg you keep trying to get rid of, but always shows up with the best bird the morning of the hunt…

Lol. Let’s pump the brakes a bit.

He’s had 2 good (not elite) seasons in his 6 year career. 

Here’s hoping Coen can keep him on an upward trend.

Well, to prove a point (you are the one attempting to minimizing the results, ie, the yards, TD’s, conference, title and playoff wins), who would you rather have pulling the trigger?

 

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 12:36 pm
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Well, to prove a point (you are the one attempting to minimizing the results, ie, the yards, TD’s, conference, title and playoff wins), who would you rather have pulling the trigger?

I’d rather have Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Purdy, Hurts, Prescott, Love, Stroud, Cousins, Goff, Burrow, or Herbert (might have missed one). 

And, you’re wrong in that I’m trying to “minimize the results”. 

So, now that I’ve answered your question, you can answer one for me. 

Out of Baker’s 6-year career, how many “elite” seasons has he had?

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 12:56 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

Well, to prove a point (you are the one attempting to minimizing the results, ie, the yards, TD’s, conference, title and playoff wins), who would you rather have pulling the trigger?

I’d rather have Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Purdy, Hurts, Prescott, Love, Stroud, Cousins, Goff, Burrow, or Herbert (might have missed one).

funny, only two of them are still playing in this tournament. Also funny, all of them are not even coming up for the opportunity. I guess everyone has to focus on context. None were available when we were fortunate enough to try to fit an available QB into our cap limitations. Fortunately for us, Prescott and Cousins were never a consideration.

In fact, not many would agree that Prescott or Cousins are appreciably better than Baker Mayfield.

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And, you’re wrong in that I’m trying to “minimize the results”.

that’s actually debatable - perhaps in this particular comment.

 

Posted by: @donkey_hunter
So, now that I’ve answered your question, you can answer one for me. 

Out of Baker’s 6-year career, how many “elite” seasons has he had?

about as many as Prescott, Cousins, Herbert… I might have missed one too.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 1:17 pm
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I’d rather have Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Purdy, Hurts, Prescott, Love, Stroud, Cousins, Goff, Burrow, or Herbert (might have missed one). 

Those guys are available? 

kidding 

 
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Another sign of BDS: comparing the Bucs winning a wild card game vs a team that finished 1-5 and the Giants beating the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl

 

JC .. who had the more successful season this past season, the Bucs or the Saints ?

 

 

Bucs had the better season. Carr is the better QB. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 1:25 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

In fact, not many would agree that Prescott or Cousins are appreciably better than Baker Mayfield.

This definitely isn't a fact, and I hope it's not a serious statement.

You are aware one of those dudes just came in 2nd in MVP voting, yes?

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 1:26 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

 

 

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

So, now that I’ve answered your question, you can answer one for me. 

 

Out of Baker’s 6-year career, how many “elite” seasons has he had?

 

 

about as many as Prescott, Cousins, Herbert… I might have missed one too.

 

Dude...

 

4k+ seasons:

Cousins - 7/12

Prescott - 3/8

Herbert - 3/4

Mayfield - 1/6 (this year - 4,044 yards in 17 games)

 

30+ TD seasons:

Cousins - 3/12

Prescott - 3/8

Herbert - 2/4

Mayfield - 0/6

 

65.0+ Completion Percentage:

Cousins - 9/12

Prescott - 7/8

Herbert - 4/4

Mayfield - 0/6

 

Dude...

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 1:34 pm
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I’d rather have Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Purdy, Hurts, Prescott, Love, Stroud, Cousins, Goff, Burrow, or Herbert (might have missed one). 

Those guys are available? 

kidding 

That’s fair. 

But, he never specified. 

 

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 2:06 pm
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Bucs had the better season.

according the Biggs they had the same season

 

In fact, a little Red Board math courtesy of Biggs

 

1. 2023 Bucs and Saints both finish .529 win percentage (9-8)

2. The Bucs go the the playoffs the Saints do not.

3. Hypothetically, thee Bucs lose to the Eagles so they finish the season at .500 (9-9), one more loss than the Saints

4. The non-playoff, non-division winning Saints had more success than the Bucs.

5.  Because  . . .

 

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In a non-Superbowl winning season, more losses cannot equal more success. It simply can't.

 

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 2:07 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

 

 

Posted by: @donkey_hunter

So, now that I’ve answered your question, you can answer one for me. 

 

Out of Baker’s 6-year career, how many “elite” seasons has he had?

 

 

about as many as Prescott, Cousins, Herbert… I might have missed one too.

 

Dude...

 

4k+ seasons:

Cousins - 7/12

Prescott - 3/8

Herbert - 3/4

Mayfield - 1/6 (this year - 4,044 yards in 17 games)

 

30+ TD seasons:

Cousins - 3/12

Prescott - 3/8

Herbert - 2/4

Mayfield - 0/6

 

65.0+ Completion Percentage:

Cousins - 9/12

Prescott - 7/8

Herbert - 4/4

Mayfield - 0/6

 

Dude...

LOL

Playoff victories?

Super Bowls?

Your stats are nothing more than meaningless worthless tripe

Now compare rosters.... and please, center on WR's

 

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 2:07 pm
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Well Prescott and cousins are better than mayfield but if you are asking me who would I rather have - give me the guy with the most wins and best winning % in the playoffs 

becomes even more embarrassing for Dak and cousins when you consider Dallas and Vikings as perennial playoff contenders and can’t a game once they get there. Also cost much more money than the more successful playoff QB in this scenario 

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 2:07 pm
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I’d rather have Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Purdy, Hurts, Prescott, Love, Stroud, Cousins, Goff, Burrow, or Herbert (might have missed one). 

Those guys are available? 

kidding 

That’s fair. 

But, he never specified. 

 

 

true and he might not have meant to specify so thats why i was just kidding around

 

At first glance I thought he was asking a question many have asked here which is who if not Mayfield this season

 

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 2:09 pm
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he guy with the most wins and best winning % in the playoffs 

well played

 
Posted : Feb. 9, 2024 2:10 pm
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Posted by: @white-tiger

I guess everyone has to focus on context. None were available when we were fortunate enough to try to fit an available QB into our cap limitations. Fortunately for us, Prescott and Cousins were never a consideration.

Speaking of context, perhaps you should state "which qb's would you rather have that were available" rather than omit that important detail.

Posted by: @white-tiger

In fact, not many would agree that Prescott or Cousins are appreciably better than Baker Mayfield.

Lol. Uh huh. 

Both Prescott and Cousins have had multiple 30+ TD and 4,500+ passing seasons. 

Both have been considered Top-10 QB's throughout their career. 

Mayfield, not so much.

Posted by: @white-tiger

about as many as Prescott, Cousins, Herbert… I might have missed one too.

I don't find it surprising that you couldn't answer a simply question (that question being "How many elite seasons has Mayfield had").

But, to claim that he's had as many as Dak, Kirk, and Justin tells me you aren't being serious.

 
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