So its water under the bridge at this point, but how many of us had hoped we would have replaced Bowles with Coen??? I know I did, and I feel like most of us did. It seemed obvious. So why the hesitancy to pull the trigger? Bowles IS NOT a good HC. I would rather go into the "unknown" than continue with Bowles as HC.
no argument from me
Bucs front office would have faced backlash replacing a black head coach with a white guy after said black head coach has won back to back division titles post Brady
Bucs front office would have faced backlash replacing a black head coach with a white guy after said black head coach has won back to back division titles post Brady
Ok....but this is even worse man.
Thanks for this. We needed another Bowles thread
Thanks for this. We needed another Bowles thread
The problem I am having is that this entire scenario is obvious to even the "lay man." Yet it got fumbled. I feel that they will fumble again even though it remains obvious.
Bucs front office would have faced backlash replacing a black head coach with a white guy after said black head coach has won back to back division titles post Brady
Bucs need to focus on what is best for the franchise and not what is perceived by others.
Bucs front office would have faced backlash replacing a black head coach with a white guy after said black head coach has won back to back division titles post Brady
Ok....but this is even worse man.
to be fair, clearly the Bucs brass didn’t envision Bowles and staff being this inept and the absolute meltdown collapse that we’ve seen in this 7-10 Bucs team and yes the Bucs are losing to Carolina next Sunday
Bucs front office would have faced backlash replacing a black head coach with a white guy after said black head coach has won back to back division titles post Brady
Well that is fucking woke. Let's focus on whether he's a below average HC, average HC, or above average HC. The record is 35-36. That is below average. Black, white, green, yellow, whatever, he's fucking blah.
Bucs front office would have faced backlash replacing a black head coach with a white guy after said black head coach has won back to back division titles post Brady
Well that is fucking woke. Let's focus on whether he's a below average HC, average HC, or above average HC. The record is 35-36. That is below average. Black, white, green, yellow, whatever, he's fucking blah.
He's 60-74 as a head coach.
He fucking sucks.
Bucs front office would have faced backlash replacing a black head coach with a white guy after said black head coach has won back to back division titles post Brady
Well that is fucking woke. Let's focus on whether he's a below average HC, average HC, or above average HC. The record is 35-36. That is below average. Black, white, green, yellow, whatever, he's fucking blah.
All I care about is that the guy knows what he is doing. In 2025 people really do not care what color skin is as long as they do a good job. If you don't do a good job you get fired most places, it doesn't matter what color skin you are. Its racist and demeaning to assume otherwise imo. If the glazers really thought or think this way they think they're being righteous but it's the opposite imo. Accountability has more power than anything else. Op is right too everyone knew Bowles was not a hc. This was said years ago.
Bucs front office would have faced backlash replacing a black head coach with a white guy after said black head coach has won back to back division titles post Brady
Well that is fucking woke. Let's focus on whether he's a below average HC, average HC, or above average HC. The record is 35-36. That is below average. Black, white, green, yellow, whatever, he's fucking blah.
All I care about is that the guy knows what he is doing. In 2025 people really do not care what color skin is as long as they do a good job. If you don't do a good job you get fired most places, it doesn't matter what color skin you are. Its racist and demeaning to assume otherwise imo. If the glazers really thought or think this way they think they're being righteous but it's the opposite imo. Accountability has more power than anything else. Op is right too everyone knew Bowles was not a hc. This was said years ago.
i mean, Bruce Arians whole coaching career, was a civil rights leader and wanted to pave the way for Todd Bowles. I am sure nothing was agreed to when he took the job back in 2019 other than to consider Byron or Todd when Bruce would decide to retire. Bruce said it himself on Rich Eisen podcast that he wanted to pave the way for Todd and give him a championship caliber team, which by all accounts after the franchise high 13 win season in 2021, he was doing. Of course, injuries, retirements, and Brady drop off all contributed in addition to Bowles not being head coach worthy.
this is not racist and Todd was the right hire given the circumstances that late in the offseason. Shit Byron Leftwich so bad, he's been out of work for years until Deion threw him a bone as assistant coach earlier this year. So Bowles got the job indirectly because of his race but more so Arians life work than it was Bucs just hitting their head against the wall like say they did with the Raheem Morris hire back in 2009.
In reality, Bucs likely should have moved on from Bowles after the 2022 season debacle. They decided to give him a chance and 2023 and 2024 were solid seasons given the circumstances with dead cap space, post Brady expectations. Still we knew, we were never going to go very far with Bowles. He is just not head coaching material.
And to say the Bucs didn't fire Bowles and promote Coen after the 2024 season because Bowles was black, that's not racist bro; just a reality of player and public perception. By all accounts, Bowles resume at the time said he won 3 straight division titles, something no other Bucs coach has done in the history of the franchise and you were going to fire him for a white dude that was OC for 1 year, yeah; that would not have gone over well. Could see many media pundits claiming the Bucs wronged Bowles, yadda yadda yadda. It may even have gotten national news media attention. Just wasn't going to happen.
Luckily, given the Bucs 7-10 record this year and absolute collapse, yes, Bowles should be a goner. The players repaid the Bucs brass sticking with Bowles by quitting on him. Sad really when you think about it.
Bowles is a likeable guy but just doesn't know how to read the flow of the game. I mean, there is at least one back breaking decision he makes each week that just deflates the team. Yesterday being the 2nd drive where offense is actually moving ball and you punt on 4th and 1 at the 50. He just doesn't have what it takes.
