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Have the Bucs Done Enough to be top 5 in the NFC?

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Posted by: @jc5100

Posted by: @detrimental

The talent is there to be top 5 in the conference. The in-game coaching though will cost us games and probably be a 9 win team.

Coen is gone now. Give Grizzard a chance before you assume he'll make the same mistakes as Coen. 

 

This was more in regards to Todd Bowles in-game decision making. Not knowing when to go for it, settling for FG's, not maximizing time left at the end of halves etc...

Any human with a decent IQ should have this offense top 5. The talent and OL is elite so his job is not that hard. Bowles on the other hand faces an uphill battle of unknowns at linebacker, edge and cornerback. Godspeed

 

 
Posted : Apr. 30, 2025 9:09 am
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With the Bucs the past few off seasons you can not tell how this team goes until draft day arrives.  But this draft for the Bucs added players that can help year 1 and the future.  But really Egbuka is going to be the ignition to have Grizzard's new wrinkles on offense take off and be a key contributor on third down. 

 
Posted : Apr. 30, 2025 9:45 am
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Alex Hoegler, of Total Pro Sports, has us as the 7th ranked NFC team post draft, behind the Eagles, Lions, Commanders, Packers, Vikings, and Rams. Ouch! 

with comments like “the Bucs feel like nothing more than the best NFL team in a bad division.” We still don’t get the national respect. Is that on them or us?

 
Posted : Apr. 30, 2025 12:06 pm
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Being 7th ranked isn't bad because that is still playoff worthy.  Keep in mind that most media outside of Tampa do not understand that the impact players the Bucs pick up often is from the draft and not free agency.  This has been true for the Bucs in the past two drafts and this third draft is no different. 

Sure Reddick could be a home run but in reality if he gives the team at least 8 sacks that is a win even if he fails to hit double digits.  The overall goal is to improve the young guys like Diaby, Braswell, Roberts, and Walker.

But adding Egbuka means the Bucs are in business now on offense to do a lot of things that they wanted to do with Kameron Johnson as a rookie (eg jet sweeps, attacking the flats, out routes).  The added bonus with Egbuka isn't just his use as a utility in the short and intermediate areas but also his ability to attack downfield via the slot post and go routes.  Grizzard is going to add vertical elements to this offense to really forced teams to think twice letting Ebuka roam downfield 1 v 1.

Also you can do cluster formation with Godwin, Evans and Egbuka to really take the running game to the next level for Irving.  Or clear out one side for wheel routes for White. 

 

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Posted : Apr. 30, 2025 12:34 pm
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Posted by: @ehinote

Alex Hoegler, of Total Pro Sports, has us as the 7th ranked NFC team post draft, behind the Eagles, Lions, Commanders, Packers, Vikings, and Rams. Ouch! 

with comments like “the Bucs feel like nothing more than the best NFL team in a bad division.” We still don’t get the national respect. Is that on them or us?

It's us.  We still beat the bad teams and struggled against the good teams. We went on a losing streak and then beat a bunch of bad teams to get our heads above water. Early quality wins got erased by the losing streak.  Swept by the Falcons.  No big signings except Reddick. 

We don't deserve for the national media to be hyping us up.  We didn't buy any tickets to the hype train based on last year's performance.  Which right now is just as well, because the last time the hype train came to town, we went 8-9 in Brady's final year.

 

 
Posted : Apr. 30, 2025 12:38 pm
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NFL.com has the Bucs as the seventh best team overall.  

4th in the NFC behind the Eagles, Lions, and Commanders.  All three of which we beat last season.  We are in the window by anyone's estimation. 

 

We are in the window for sure and the 2025 team seems better on paper than the 2024 team BUT we LOST to the Commanders when it mattered.  A lot of that relates to injury, so I am not knocking the Bucs or the claim that we are in the window, just saying that a lot has to go right to go further in 2025.

I could see the Lions and that Eagles taking a step back, but not sure about the Commanders. So tough to say though.

 

i dont know, wouldn't say we lost to Commanders due to injury.  Yes - Godwin could have helped...but in reality the defense lacked talent and the offense had 2 braindead plays in the 4th quarter which really did us in.

Bucs added some talent on defense, still not sure if it was enough but definetly feel better about our pass rush and secondary in 2025 then i did in 2024.

adding Edbuka, should only help the offense as well 

so we definitely improved with the one huge question mark being is can Josh Grizzard be an effective play caller

 

 
Posted : Apr. 30, 2025 12:42 pm
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