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Kyle Trask led the Gators to the most prolific passing offense (387.6 ypg) in the FBS while ranking seventh in total offense (509.8 ypg) and eighth in scoring offense (39.8 ppg) against some of the best defenses in the NCAAF.

In 2020, quarterback Kyle Trask completed 301-of-437 attempts (68.9 pct.) for 4,283 yards, 43 touchdowns, eight interceptions and a 180.0 efficiency rating en route to Heisman Trophy finalist and second-team All-America honors. The senior signal caller led the entire FBS in touchdown passes and ranked second in completions and passing yards.

 
Posted : Mar. 23, 2023 4:56 pm
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The SEC doesn't boast the defenses it once did...

And college stats are mostly useless. I can think of 4 or 5 ducks qbs that had way better stats than Herbert. 

Florida does not produce NFL qbs. Not one. Not even a serviceable one... Trask is no exception... Richardson will flop.

 
Posted : Mar. 23, 2023 5:45 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2023

The SEC doesn't boast the defenses it once did...

And college stats are mostly useless. I can think of 4 or 5 ducks qbs that had way better stats than Herbert. 

Florida does not produce NFL qbs. Not one. Not even a serviceable one... Trask is no exception... Richardson will flop.

The argument that one player cannot compete in the NFL because other players from Florida haven't succeeded is a classic fallacy of logic.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 23, 2023 8:22 pm
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The sad truth is there only are about 15-20 people here anymore on the Red Board.

 
Posted : Mar. 23, 2023 10:10 pm
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Posted by: @badtimes

Posted by: @firebowles2023

The SEC doesn't boast the defenses it once did...

And college stats are mostly useless. I can think of 4 or 5 ducks qbs that had way better stats than Herbert. 

Florida does not produce NFL qbs. Not one. Not even a serviceable one... Trask is no exception... Richardson will flop.

The argument that one player cannot compete in the NFL because other players from Florida haven't succeeded is a classic fallacy of logic.

 

 

It's a simpleton's argument that has been refuted multiple times:

 

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Posted by: @firebowles2023

Florida doesn't know how to make an NFL qb.

How are there still people making this ignorant argument?

 

Did Texas Tech know how to make an NFL QB before Patrick Mahomes?

Did California know how to make an NFL QB before Aaron Rodgers?

Did Wyoming know how to make an NFL QB before Josh Allen?

Did LSU know how to make an NFL QB before Joe Burrow?

Did Clemson know how to make an NFL QB before Watson/Lawrence?

Did Tennessee know how to make an NFL QB before Peyton Manning?

And how in the blue hell is Justin Herbert so good even though Marcus Mariota/Joey Harrington/Akili Smith also went to Oregon?

 

The list could go on for a while. It is a simpleton's argument to make. Jameis Winston didn't throw 3 million interceptions because he went to FSU.  He threw all of those interceptions because protecting the football isn't that important to him.

 

For some reason, the same simpleton keeps making it.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2023 9:39 am
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Posted by: @biggs3535

I'll only post again if another member of "locked for 2023" group or one of the other players you claimed are "all coming back" for 2023 is gone. I'm guessing this won't be my last post in this thread.

 

Back for more cherry-picking, as yet another member of the "all coming back" band is gone.  Ryan Succup has been released from factual contract.

 

Posted by: @catherder

I don't think you can call it a rebuild when the 10 highest paid players not named Brady will be back:  Godwin, Vea, Barrett, Smith, Evans, Davis, Jensen, David, Gage, Mason.  D. White, Fournette, Wirfs, Succop, Tryon, Nunez-Roches, Hall, Gabbert, Winfield, Goedeke, Trask, R. White, Nunez-Roches, Hainsey, Vaughn, Wirfs, Otton, Camarda, McCollum, Kieft, Dean (franchise tag).  All coming back.

Possibly losing:  Brady, David, Hicks, Jones, Gholston, Brate, Rudolph, Bunting, Neal, Edwards, Nelson, but we may keep half of those.  

So I'd say the turnover will be minimal.  Same HC, same GM.   You can't call 2023 a rebuild IMO.  

 

"Don't shoot the messenger," as this list keep getting larger Professor.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2023 9:49 am
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Posted by: @biggs3535

I'll only post again if another member of "locked for 2023" group or one of the other players you claimed are "all coming back" for 2023 is gone. I'm guessing this won't be my last post in this thread.

Which thread did you pull that from?  I

 

Back for more cherry-picking, as yet another member of the "all coming back" band is gone.  Ryan Succup has been released from factual contract.

 

Posted by: @catherder

I don't think you can call it a rebuild when the 10 highest paid players not named Brady will be back:  Godwin, Vea, Barrett, Smith, Evans, Davis, Jensen, David, Gage, Mason.  D. White, Fournette, Wirfs, Succop, Tryon, Nunez-Roches, Hall, Gabbert, Winfield, Goedeke, Trask, R. White, Nunez-Roches, Hainsey, Vaughn, Wirfs, Otton, Camarda, McCollum, Kieft, Dean (franchise tag).  All coming back.

Possibly losing:  Brady, David, Hicks, Jones, Gholston, Brate, Rudolph, Bunting, Neal, Edwards, Nelson, but we may keep half of those.  

So I'd say the turnover will be minimal.  Same HC, same GM.   You can't call 2023 a rebuild IMO.  

 

"Don't shoot the messenger," as this list keep getting larger Professor.

 

Which thread did you pull that from?  

 

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2023 11:23 am
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The same thread where another poster laments the lack of traffic on the Red Board? 

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2023 4:51 pm
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Well I remember saying something similar to this, but Biggs has been creatively editing my posts.  I don't know why I would say all those players are coming back even including Fournette, Succop and Gabbert would be coming back.  If I said it then I said it, but I'd like to see that post to verify that. 

My main point has been proven to be true however, that the Bucs are bring back the main core of their team.  Lavonte David confirmed it, as quoted by PR: “I’m confident in what we got,” David said. “We got a majority of our locker room still there, still intact. We lost some key pieces, obviously, but the majority of our locker room is still intact and that’s something I really, really like. "

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2023 10:17 pm
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@traskforce 

But more importantly Jason litch already said how he would go back and mortgage the future and do it all over again because of the Super Bowl win. This is in reference to the Bucs having to bite the bullet this year

Don’t get me wrong, I am happy that brought back guys like Dean and David but to somehow in suite they are trying as hard to field a winning team as 2020-2022 just isn’t reality 

 
Posted : Mar. 24, 2023 11:42 pm
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Posted by: @catherder

Well I remember saying something similar to this, but Biggs has been creatively editing my posts.  I don't know why I would say all those players are coming back even including Fournette, Succop and Gabbert would be coming back.  If I said it then I said it, but I'd like to see that post to verify that. 

My main point has been proven to be true however, that the Bucs are bring back the main core of their team.  Lavonte David confirmed it, as quoted by PR: “I’m confident in what we got,” David said. “We got a majority of our locker room still there, still intact. We lost some key pieces, obviously, but the majority of our locker room is still intact and that’s something I really, really like. "

 

LOL.  

 

You are like a case study in confirmation bias.

 

 
Posted : Mar. 25, 2023 7:19 am
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Posted by: @catherder

Well I remember saying something similar to this, but Biggs has been creatively editing my posts.  I don't know why I would say all those players are coming back even including Fournette, Succop and Gabbert would be coming back.  If I said it then I said it, but I'd like to see that post to verify that. 

 

Posted by: @catherder

I don't think you can call it a rebuild when the 10 highest paid players not named Brady will be back:  Godwin, Vea, Barrett, Smith, Evans, Davis, Jensen, David, Gage, Mason.  D. White, Fournette, Wirfs, Succop, Tryon, Nunez-Roches, Hall, Gabbert, Winfield, Goedeke, Trask, R. White, Nunez-Roches, Hainsey, Vaughn, Wirfs, Otton, Camarda, McCollum, Kieft, Dean (franchise tag).  All coming back.

Possibly losing:  Brady, David, Hicks, Jones, Gholston, Brate, Rudolph, Bunting, Neal, Edwards, Nelson, but we may keep half of those.  

So I'd say the turnover will be minimal.  Same HC, same GM.   You can't call 2023 a rebuild IMO.  

 

https://www.pewterreport.com/community/the-red-board/bucs-cowboys-wildcard-mnf-january-16th/#post-159261

 

 
Posted : Mar. 25, 2023 7:23 am
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Posted by: @catherder

Well I remember saying something similar to this, but Biggs has been creatively editing my posts.  I don't know why I would say all those players are coming back even including Fournette, Succop and Gabbert would be coming back.  If I said it then I said it, but I'd like to see that post to verify that. 

Lolz

 

Posted by: @catherder

My main point has been proven to be true however, that the Bucs are bring back the main core of their team.

Lolz, you’re fuggin’ delusional.

 
Posted : Mar. 25, 2023 9:14 am
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @catherder

Well I remember saying something similar to this, but Biggs has been creatively editing my posts.  I don't know why I would say all those players are coming back even including Fournette, Succop and Gabbert would be coming back.  If I said it then I said it, but I'd like to see that post to verify that. 

Lolz

 

Posted by: @catherder

My main point has been proven to be true however, that the Bucs are bring back the main core of their team.

Lolz, you’re fuggin’ delusional.

Thanks for that link and I obviously misspoke back on Jan 11 when I said "all" are coming back.  I know better than to use words like  all or nothing.  I'll take back that one sentence. I was responding to Donkey stating "Brady era in Tampa comes to an end.  Let the rebuild begin."  You call dumping an underperforming OT, trading Shaq Mason and signing Baker Mayfield for $4 mil (plus incentives!) a rebuild?  OK sure dude.   I challenge you to find a team in who has made fewer moves than the Bucs this offseason.  Sure you could possibly find one or two I suppose out of the 32 but not many.  Come on.  Rebuild?  You tell me what major moves the Bucs have made that constitute a "rebuild". Who's being delusional, you and Donkey or me and Lavonte? 

 

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Posted : Mar. 25, 2023 11:29 am
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Posted by: @catherder

 I challenge you to find a team in who has made fewer moves than the Bucs this offseason.  Sure you could possibly find one or two I suppose out of the 32 but not many. 

Thus far, Arizona, Buffalo, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Kansas City, LA Chargers, LA Rams, Miami, NY Giants, NY Jets, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Tennessee, and Washington have all signed less Free Agents than Tampa Bay. That’s 19 teams who have made less signings. Lolz @ “one or two.”

Most of the remaining teams have made the same number of moves, with only a handful having more than the Bucs. You continue to make statements that are easily disproven. You may want to buy a clue at some point.

 
Posted : Mar. 25, 2023 12:17 pm
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