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Posted by: @biggs3535

I'm not sure why anybody is worried about losing Coen. I have it on expert authority that Liam Coen doesn't really have the background to be a HC yet.

Posted by: @bucsbits

Coen doesnt really have the background to be a HC yet   . .

but as DH and Biggs and I think Fire have correctly pointed out the current trend in the NFL seems to be to go with productive OCs as head coaches.  Trends seem to control in the NFL, so that makes me nervous about Coen.

That is why I mentioned Koetter because he was elevated to HC  because he was elevated to NOT lose him

This thread can be deleted now.

 

BIGGS - you know "your" trying to hard to be a d*ck when you cut a quote to omit the part I just added back  IN BOLD  . . .LMAO

 

maybe grab a Snickers?

 

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Posted : Dec. 17, 2024 1:40 pm
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Posted by: @m_j

you do not get an NFL HC offer every day, and noone knows what happens in the future in the bay. do you really get another offer if your team goes 5-12?

also not sure what happens if cowboys or even giants make a call …. guess we can only hope he likes it here and our FO does the very best they can! meanwhile enjoy the season, more fun was only our great team 20+ years ago!

 

maybe he decides to best on himself, like Ben Johnson

 

100% agree though that the norm would be to do what Canales did, which is jump on the job if its available

 

wonder how long Canales will last in that job

 

 
Posted : Dec. 17, 2024 1:42 pm
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Posted by: @donkey_hunter

The suggestions about “promising” Coen the HC gig after the 2025 season requires loyalty from a guy who’s been here less than a year. That’s an awfully big gamble.

I agree, that's why I think it would have to be in writing, similar to the Patriots.  Jerod Mayo was promised the job.  Having a "succession plan", which circumvents the Rooney Rule, is not against the rules of the NFL. 

From Sportico

Mayo’s hiring as Belichick’s successor was reportedly part of his most recent employment contract with the Patriots. The inclusion of that clause, as described by media reports, followed other teams seeking to interview him as a head coach. The NFL was aware of this clause and comfortable with it. The Patriots are therefore in compliance with the rule, a workplace policy designed to diversify coaching and front offices.

Also, as Mike Florio noted, Mayo isn’t the first beneficiary of a succession plan. Jim Mora (Seattle Seahawks head coach in 2009), Jim Caldwell (Indianapolis Colts head coach in 2009) and Eric DeCosta (Baltimore Ravens GM in 2018) were each directly promoted by their teams.

 

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Posted : Dec. 17, 2024 1:46 pm
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Yeah it doesn't require any kind of loyalty it just takes mutual benefit. The Bucs wouldnt be giving up anything.

and, its not that uncommon

 
Posted : Dec. 17, 2024 1:53 pm
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Posted by: @catherder

I agree, that's why I think it would have to be in writing,

Agreed. 

A contract as the new HC next season. 

 
Posted : Dec. 17, 2024 2:00 pm
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Posted by: @catherder

I agree, that's why I think it would have to be in writing,

Agreed. 

A contract as the new HC next season. 

Unfortunately or fortunately, the Chargers game may have pulled Bowles' job out of the fire if it was in the fire.  The Bucs would have to lay a big turd at the end of the season for Bowles' job to be in jeopardy after last week.  That's not going to happen.  Bowles is safe for another year, but if he loses Coen and can't find a good replacement then his job isn't safe for 2026.  I don't think anybody is looking forward to a season with Todd Bowles as HC and another greenhorn OC. 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 17, 2024 2:12 pm
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Posted by: @catherder

The Bucs would have to lay a big turd at the end of the season for Bowles' job to be in jeopardy after last week.  That's not going to happen. 

Great win against the Chargers, but the Bucs could easily struggle to the end.

 
Posted : Dec. 17, 2024 2:24 pm
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Posted by: @catherder

Unfortunately or fortunately, the Chargers game may have pulled Bowles' job out of the fire if it was in the fire. 

Hopefully, ownership looks at the entire body of work (including his decisions and moves as a HC) and takes that into consideration.

 

 

 
Posted : Dec. 17, 2024 2:29 pm
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