If Irving and Tucker combine for 500 carries this is a 13+ win team.
"winning NFL teams run an average of 'x' times per game ergo run it 'x' straight times to win."
Red Board "correlation"
The funniest part about JC is that he so entrenched in this idiocy he won't walk back any part of it
Not sure he's "entrenched" as much as its the offseason and it works (ie it keeps people responding). This is JC's troll . . all the way back to claiming he was a GM . . Scotty miller etc. Its the "I know better than everyone" troll. It works even though it is a complete "trail of tears" when you match it up with reality. Always wrong. Always. And yet people respond.
And if needed, he just shifts the troll. So, Tucker was part of his years long "Licht is really incompetent" troll but when that dissolved it became "Coen is incompetent for playing White" (even though JC acknowledges that when Coen was here White was the better receiver and blocker lmao). Sensing that wearing out he adds "if they run Irving and White 500 times they win 13 games." LOL
So, Tucker was part of his years long "Licht is really incompetent" troll but when that dissolved it became "Coen is incompetent for playing White" (even though JC acknowledges that when Coen was here White was the better receiver and blocker lmao). Sensing that wearing out he adds "if they run Irving and White 500 times they win 13 games." LOL
This transition ^^^ is not much different than this transition:
Page 4 of thread . .
We’ll see who starts and gets more carries on Sunday. And the week after that. And the week after that. And the week after that. And the week after that.
to page 31 lol:
Check in after Week 13: Rachaad White is the starting RB.
While this is technically true, we all know that Bucky will dominate the snap count and that's what matters.
Week 13 Irving had 25 carries and more receptions than White . . but White took the first run lmao
as I said back then
all the trolls here step on their own Ds because none of it is genuine. ...
JC forced to admit his current basic troll (Coen incompetent for playing White more than Tucker)dissolves because Coen's offense was 55% pass and JC admits White better receiver and pass pro.
Baker only lost two of those fumbles. And last year's total of 13 fumbles was an outlier for Baker by a wide margin. And how many fumbles did he recover for White and Tucker? 3? 4? 5? more?
Baker also led the league in completion% and TD passes when blitzed. 72% completion rate and 18 TD passes when blitzed in 2024. 73 total TDs between the 2023-24 seasons, only Josh Allen and lamar have thrown more. Oh, and Baker's 105.9 PR in the playoffs is the highest among all NFL QBs since the 1970 merger.
Oh, and Baker made the wrong read on the jet sweep, causing a fumble. If Irving and Tucker combine for 500 carries this is a 13+ win team.
Eh, I'm going to need some kind of confirmation on that 'story' about Baker making the wrong read. Especially since both Kurt Warner and JTS both said that the mistake was on the receiver. Warner also questioned the play call itself that deep in their own territory.
Also, not sure how your interjection about Baker's mistake has anything to do with his actual performance as a QB. Seems like just a weak attempt at a pivot.
And while it might be true that Irving and Tucker rushing 500 times would win a lot of games, it's a fact that that will never happen. And, it's just a conjecture; there's no basis in reality for an assumption like that, never mind that it completely ignores the reality of how football is played, much less the context of how plays are called in real live games. You're just assuming that "if we ran it 500 times, we'd win 12 games/season." Using that same flawed logic, I could say "if LVD and Vita Vea would just make 50 sacks between them, we'd win a bunch more games." While it might be true, it's not based in any kind of functional reality.
If Irving and Tucker combine for 500 carries this is a 13+ win team.
"winning NFL teams run an average of 'x' times per game ergo run it 'x' straight times to win."
Red Board "correlation"
More like "Bucky and Tucker's analytics are in outer space, maybe we should let them run".
Baker only lost two of those fumbles. And last year's total of 13 fumbles was an outlier for Baker by a wide margin. And how many fumbles did he recover for White and Tucker? 3? 4? 5? more?
Baker also led the league in completion% and TD passes when blitzed. 72% completion rate and 18 TD passes when blitzed in 2024. 73 total TDs between the 2023-24 seasons, only Josh Allen and lamar have thrown more. Oh, and Baker's 105.9 PR in the playoffs is the highest among all NFL QBs since the 1970 merger.
Oh, and Baker made the wrong read on the jet sweep, causing a fumble. If Irving and Tucker combine for 500 carries this is a 13+ win team.
Eh, I'm going to need some kind of confirmation on that 'story' about Baker making the wrong read. Especially since both Kurt Warner and JTS both said that the mistake was on the receiver. Warner also questioned the play call itself that deep in their own territory.
Also, not sure how your interjection about Baker's mistake has anything to do with his actual performance as a QB. Seems like just a weak attempt at a pivot.
And while it might be true that Irving and Tucker rushing 500 times would win a lot of games, it's a fact that that will never happen. And, it's just a conjecture; there's no basis in reality for an assumption like that, never mind that it completely ignores the reality of how football is played, much less the context of how plays are called in real live games. You're just assuming that "if we ran it 500 times, we'd win 12 games/season." Using that same flawed logic, I could say "if LVD and Vita Vea would just make 50 sacks between them, we'd win a bunch more games." While it might be true, it's not based in any kind of functional reality.
Jets are only supposed to be given where there's a numbers advantage on the edge. It was 3 Commanders and 2 Bucs.
And making the wrong read which results in a turnover up 17-13 in the 4th qtr doesn't have anything to do with "his actual performance as a QB"? You guys let the offense get away with back breaking turnovers but scream fire Bowles if the defense gives up a FG.
not based in any kind of functional reality.
that is the JC special
In 2024 the Bucs broke all kinds of offensive records, including many related to running. They also scored early often.
To even approach the numbers JC is mentioning the Bucs would have to score even more, especially early in games, and run even better than they did through a new season that would increasingly feature defenses loading up the box. They'd also have to basically ignore that talent at receiver. No one on the Bucs is saying "get the ball in Tucker's hands . . . . instead of Evans, Godwin."
Successful NFL offenses don't just run or just pass, they keep defenses off balance by doing BOTH. The 2021 Bucs offense was incredible, but running shortcoming that then were amplified in 2022. In 2023 Canales committed to the run, but with a poor running scheme. Coen put a better running scheme together and BOOM
Baker only lost two of those fumbles. And last year's total of 13 fumbles was an outlier for Baker by a wide margin. And how many fumbles did he recover for White and Tucker? 3? 4? 5? more?
Baker also led the league in completion% and TD passes when blitzed. 72% completion rate and 18 TD passes when blitzed in 2024. 73 total TDs between the 2023-24 seasons, only Josh Allen and lamar have thrown more. Oh, and Baker's 105.9 PR in the playoffs is the highest among all NFL QBs since the 1970 merger.
Oh, and Baker made the wrong read on the jet sweep, causing a fumble. If Irving and Tucker combine for 500 carries this is a 13+ win team.
Eh, I'm going to need some kind of confirmation on that 'story' about Baker making the wrong read. Especially since both Kurt Warner and JTS both said that the mistake was on the receiver. Warner also questioned the play call itself that deep in their own territory.
Also, not sure how your interjection about Baker's mistake has anything to do with his actual performance as a QB. Seems like just a weak attempt at a pivot.
And while it might be true that Irving and Tucker rushing 500 times would win a lot of games, it's a fact that that will never happen. And, it's just a conjecture; there's no basis in reality for an assumption like that, never mind that it completely ignores the reality of how football is played, much less the context of how plays are called in real live games. You're just assuming that "if we ran it 500 times, we'd win 12 games/season." Using that same flawed logic, I could say "if LVD and Vita Vea would just make 50 sacks between them, we'd win a bunch more games." While it might be true, it's not based in any kind of functional reality.
Jets are only supposed to be given where there's a numbers advantage on the edge. It was 3 Commanders and 2 Bucs.
And making the wrong read which results in a turnover up 17-13 in the 4th qtr doesn't have anything to do with "his actual performance as a QB"? You guys let the offense get away with back breaking turnovers but scream fire Bowles if the defense gives up a FG.
So, no actual evidence or corroboration from any credible sources, got it. Meanwhile, I've got a former SB-winning QB and HoFer saying the mistake was on the jet, not Baker. Think I'll go with the HoFer, no offense.
And Bowles' defense didn't just give up a few FGs. They were giving up nearly 30pts/gm before the bye. That's 3 TDs/3 FGs per game, on average. or, 6 scoring drives per every 10 drives. Giving up a 60% scoring rate in the NFL is well below average. or, to use your lingo, they were 'anti-clutch.' For nearly 3 straight months. And i never screamed for Bowles to get fired. At one point i was concerned that he would get fired, but I was never on that 'fire Bowles' train.
What team did you say you used to GM for? I'd like to see your record.
Jets are only supposed to be given where there's a numbers advantage on the edge. It was 3 Commanders and 2 Bucs.
You might want to at least stick to the facts.
https://www.nfl.com/games/commanders-at-buccaneers-2024-post-1?active-tab=watch
THREE BUCS Wirfs, Shephard and Johnson are out against 3 Commanders. Wifs is on the closest guy so he's going to destroy him and AT A MINIMUM McMillan is turning up field The Commanders are also in single high and flowing toward the other side of the field (the fake Irving run).
If the exchange is completed it is easily a successful play and potentially a big play because, again, 7 defenders are flowing the other way.